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philocinemas
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Thanks again, genevive. I've never really done the whole blog thing, so some of it confuses me a little. As far as I can tell everyone just keeps piling onto that thread - Is that basically it?
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The blog where Joni posts HM's and like is usually done here,

http://www.writersofthefuture.com/blog

but as you can see, she hasn't posted anything for a month.


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JenniferHicks
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I usually find the lists of HMs and such at www.prnewswire.com several days before they're posted on the WOTF blog. In fact, the winners for Q2 were sent out there as a news release and still haven't been posted to the blog, as far as I can tell.
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Posted by KDW today - Wednesday:

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I hear some folks are getting that special phone call!

So I suppose that if we don't get a phone call within the next day or two, we're not finalists. I don't know if any other level of 'accomplishment' gets phone calls.


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Alas, my phone has been silent.
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Unless I completely missed something this is the first ive seen finalist notified before a single batch of HM's were posted.
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*shakes phone*

Why won't you ring!


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philocinemas
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Mine didn't ring either.
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Nuthin' here.
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I'm out of this contest but I know the feeling of waiting for the phone to ring.

In a different contest the phone rang after the winners had been announced, my name wasn't listed. I recognized the name of the caller as one of the editors for the contest. The cordless phone I answered with had a low battery so I tore down the hallway to get to another one. That answering machine picked up the call by that time. I was glad no one else was home or I might have just pushed them aside if they had been in my way.


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First list of honorable mentions are up on the WotF blog.

My name's near the bottom. Seeing as how I missed getting my entry for Q04 in, I have a long time before I need to be worried about this again.


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Way to go Dan!
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Congratulations!

Still waiting for my phone call...


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Congratulations!!! WD!

I'm sure you wanted to go higher, but it's still pretty cool!

Cheers,

W.


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Dark Warrior
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Congrats WD...maybe there is something to your 'last second submission' strategy
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Y'know, I work just a few miles from the Scientology building on Sunset. And they have come into my shop before. Maybe they recognized my name and want to tell me that I'm a finalist in person. - Yeah, right. Anyone got Lucifer's number? I'd like a weather report.
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http://www.writersofthefuture.com/blog

So which are you, Dan? Elizabeth Baxter from England, Gustavo Bondoni of Argentina, or Madison Bridgen of Canada

(In case you are wondering, that is the end of the list if you don't click Read More)

[This message has been edited by Brendan (edited November 11, 2010).]


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Congratulations, Dan!

[This message has been edited by philocinemas (edited November 11, 2010).]


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I add my Congratulations to WD too.


Nice to know you did something right.


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Rejection letters have been flooding the mail. I got mine today
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Boo to rejection letters.

Take heart that there's always next quarter. And the one after that. And the one after that ...


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philocinemas
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I feel like the guy who accidentally walked into the wrong restroom - I just realized my entry was for Q4. I guess I'll be having this conversation with you people in another 3 months.

My sympathies for those of you getting rejections - better luck next time.


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As of Friday night, having checked the mailbox - no word on any front.
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LDWriter2
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quote:

Rejection letters have been flooding the mail. I got mine today

Mine was one of the first. Maybe thee first one..at least around here.


Sometimes like you did I don't get it until the HMs have stated being listed. That always makes me hope.


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Finalists listed by Kathy:

http://webnews.sff.net/read?cmd=read&group=sff.writing.writersofthefuture&artnum=5605

I don't recognize any names, but that doesn't mean that they're not there. Anything, anyone?


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Crystal Stevens
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This quarter was my first time to enter. Is it normal for the first list of the HM's to be announced and then the finalists followed by the rejections mailed out? Are the rejections sent by snail or email?

I sent my entry by snail with an SASE to return my manuscript (if you can call a 48 page story a manuscript) and haven't heard a thing. Is it too early to be expecting to hear anything about where (or how) I placed? Will the other catagories be announced like the first HM list... and any other HM's? It did say "first list", which I take to mean there are more to come?

I hope I don't sound too anxious, but just want to know if this is normal or if I should contact Joni or whoever is in charge of this information to find out.


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genevive42
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A lot of us haven't heard anything. It does seem to be taking longer than seems normal, especially considering they announced the finalists already.

I wouldn't contact Joni. She's probably just neck-deep in paperwork, trying to get everything out.


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The rejections can go out pretty much at any time in the process. This quarter is backward in how results are going out, however. Usually it goes: HMs list No. 1, HMs No. 2, semis and finalists. But we've known the finalists for a while now and are still missing half the HMs.
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KDW posts: Q3 Semifinalist critiques sent. If you're a Semifinalist, tell me which story was yours. I love to getting to put names with titles.

(Which means the semifinalists might get their critiques before Joni posts their names on the blog. Wouldn't that be a surprise in the mail.)


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I wonder where they're being mailed from.
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quote:

I wonder where they're being mailed from.

LA maybe? Unless KD and others have an office somewhere else and telecommute, which is possible these days.


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I know Joni is in LA. But I thought KDW was elsewhere. Anything originating from LA, whether it be critique or rejection, I should get right away as it's just across town.
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I don't know where KD is but we send them to LA which is where the main offices seem to be because everything they do is based around there, so unless they ship the stories cross country, which they could do, they send out the SASEs from LA.


Of course now with E-mail--sometimes I've gotten both--and electronic submissions those SASEs could be from anywhere.


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I hate all this waiting. Is anyone else obsessively checking the WotF blog and forum several times a day, hoping for more results to be posted?
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Yes.
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Me too.
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I have done that at times when my rejection was late. At least three times a day. Once or twice they actually changed it between my checks.



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All physical entries go to LA, then get shipped to Kathy (in OK? It's definitely somewhere farther east) in boxes, which she then judges. She sends them back by box to LA, and they get sent to the authors from there. I got my hard copy back in the mail last week with my HM certificate. I wonder if maybe they're having computer issues...

From what I've read on the sff board, it seems like Kathy doesn't know why the other awards haven't been announced. I had thought that semi-finalists get calls as well as the finalists, but I could be wrong. Be sure to post when you know!


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Hmm, I think I got only one HM certificate and it wasn't the one where I got the phone call.
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They've passed the five month mark on my story, and many others I'm sure. If there's a delay, it'd just be nice to know the estimated time for the announcements and maybe a little of the reason why. Just a little news would be nice.
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I'm with you on that one. My story has been out 4 1/2 months. (I sent it in on the last day of the quarter.)
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I agree with you genevive42 some News would be good in that situation but it seems like they have sent out most of the rejections already. Some of us have received them. There's been nothing on the blog, Joni has been very busy but how about the Newsgroup?
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There is a possibilty no one has considered. The batch of mail KDW sent to Joni to process is lost in the mail, or...a pile was misplaced and KDW never received them.

That did happen a bunch of years back. Not sure what the number was but a couple of writers received an apology when they were discovered, several quarters after they were submitted.

If you weren't named a finalist, it doesn't really matter anyway. Still not knowing can be nerve racking.


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quote:
If you weren't named a finalist, it doesn't really matter anyway.

I disagree. If the story I sent in for this quarter doesn't at least HM, I'm going to wonder whether anything I write will appeal to WotF. I'd like to know.


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quote:

I disagree. If the story I sent in for this quarter doesn't at least HM, I'm going to wonder whether anything I write will appeal to WotF. I'd like to know.


I agree but I'm not sure if that is the way he meant it. Of course I could be wrong and he could clarify his statement but in the context of the discussion I took it to mean if you aren't a Semi-finalist then you know you didn't get any further.

I said I agree with your statement but at the same time I do enough different types of stories that as I improve my writing-if I am- some day something will appeal to them.

Or my writing will be so great KD has to pass it up no matter if she likes that type of story or not.

Yeah, right.


[This message has been edited by LDWriter2 (edited November 25, 2010).]


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Final hm posted on blog

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http://www.writersofthefuture.com/node/637
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Is that our Tom Carpenter?
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And isn't Ginger, Crystal Stevens?

Congrats to all!


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Yep, that's me . Not bad for a first time. I just hope I can get the kinks out of my newest story and do better the next time .

Congratulations to all the 3rd quarter 2010 recipiants .

Just wanted to add that I would never have done that well without all the help I had from my fellow Hatrackers. If I had entered what I thought was the final draft the first time around, no way would I have made it even up to bat. The final draft I submitted was totally revised from the original... which I will admit was terrible <<shudder>>.

So a great big THANK YOU to those who critted my story and gave me such great advice and suggestions .

[This message has been edited by Crystal Stevens (edited December 02, 2010).]


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