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Wow. I really thought I might identify with something in this thread, but I really don't.
I'm outgoing and usually pretty good at reading people, though I am socially awkward at times.
The funny thing is that my pediatrician suggested that my youngest might be PDD-NOS, which he said was once a diagnosis but is now considered to be a personality type.When he talked about the different symptoms, I really identified with them from my childhood. He said after following kids with these characteristics through the 1970's and on, it was decided it wasn't a disorder, in that there was no significant impact of the people's lives.
My son's 'symptoms' were being late to speak and having some difficulty acquiring language normaly, which he had some special speech classes and so forth. We noticed it when he seemed unable to follow directions.
"Take your napkin to the trash can" for example, really confused him at age 3. When we'd point and say, "Pick up your napkin" he'd see the napkin and pick it up, but when we said "Take it to the trash can" he'd put down the napkin and go stand by the trash can. He just wasn't getting it, despite having a very large vocabulary of words he understood and spoke.
It was really frustrating for us.
Also, he was late in developing empathy. He really didn't understand that he could hurt others because he didn't feel it. He eventually became very hyper-empathetic.
The third thing that was considered part of this spectrum was that he didn't show a lot of interest in interacting with other kids at age three. Now he does, though. He's the most social of my kids, the most outgoing. He has tons of friends, though he is often puzzled when kids do not act friendly towards him (I think that is because usually they do).
Anyway, our doctor said it was nothing to worry about. We were getting him the help he needs at a young age to overcome any social backwardness, plus (the doctor said this, not me) his good looks would make people disposed to accept him. O_O
He also said that PDD-NOS kids tended to be really, really smart, beat-of-a-different-drum sorts of people.
So, he gets in trouble for whistling in gym class or burping in the car rider line at school. *shrug* His classmates love him, though, and he's had several wee girls tell their moms they want to marry him. O_O
quote:Originally posted by signal: Does anyone know if there's a connection between Asperger's and personality type? The reason I'm asking is because there are a few similarities between Asperger's and the INTJ Keirsey personality type."
According to Wikipedia
"There seems to be a strong correlation between those with Asperger syndrome or high-functioning autism (HFA) and the INTP type of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI): description 1, description 2. Another theory states that Asperger's correlates to the INTP personality type, whereas high functioning autism correlates to the INFJ personality type."
I find that interesting as I register as an INFJ based on the test that was linked. I'll have to read some information about HFA. I don't think that I have ever shown any signs of Autism and I haven't read too much about Aspergers.
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I have been given that test several times. I took one in Youth Group just before I graduated High School, and then one a few months later when I started college.
I got different outcomes. I was honest both times. *shrug*
I believe those tests are fundamentally flawed. Or maybe this just goes back to my dislike of being indexed and profiled. It's insulting.
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I think I answered honestly. I always seem to have a problem when taking these tests though. Yes or No are usually much too simplistic options for answers to the questions.
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I just realized I misread your post, Tom. I usually test as either INTP or ISTJ—I'm very strongly I and T, but I'm borderline on the other two.
Solo: That quote just means that high-functioning autistic people are usually INFJ, not that INFJs are autistic.
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When I've read the personality profiles, Porter seems to be more of an INTP than an ISTP. I generally go by which description fits better than what the test results are.
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quote:Originally posted by Jon Boy: Solo: That quote just means that high-functioning autistic people are usually INFJ, not that INFJs are autistic.
Yeah, my thoughts weren't very well conveyed in that post. I more just meant that I find it interesting that my personality type correlates in that way, especially given that so few people fall into that personality type (less than 2% of people according to one of the sites linked from the results here )
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Your Aspie score: 109 Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 76 You are more Aspie than neurotypical
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My Aspie score: 37 My neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 108
Honestly, some of those questions shocked me. Are there people who really get more upset about losing a pen than losing a relationship?
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There are some... I was a bit suprised that I scored so high as Aspie... I do make good eye contact.
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Your Aspie score: 149 Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 41 You are very likely an Aspie
The question asks if you can understand that, which I certainly can. There have been pens in the past that I miss more then co-workers or even past room mates.
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Your Aspie score: 96 Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 110 You are more neurotypical than Aspie
I'm an ENFP.
But I used to be an I-something, I think an INFP.
I'm usually very perceptive about people, especially in person. I pick up on very small gestures, such as leaning in slightly or maintaining eye contact for a fraction of a second longer than necessary.
Faces can be iffy though, quite possibly because I have literally introduced myself to hundreds of people within the space of a day in the past. I think I got to the point where a lot of faces kind of became a blur. But I can still tell that they look FAMILIAR and that I've had some kind of contact with them, although I might not be able to tell when/where/how. So now I mostly recognize faces and their specifics very quickly if they have something distinctive about them in the eyes, lips, or cheekbones.
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Your Aspie score: 96 Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 65 You are more Aspie than neurotypical
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Your Aspie score: 107 Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 78 You are more Aspie than neurotypical
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Your Aspie score: 85 Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 144
Interestingly my friends and I were having a conversation about this before this thread started. I'd never heard of it before. And one of my friends was horrified. He couldn't believe I'd never heard of it and have been a Computer Science grad student for so long. He said that I was about to have a whole new understanding of my fellow students and professors.
Is there some term for people on the exact opposite edge of the spectrum of Asperger's?
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Your Aspie score: 95 Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 36 You are very likely an Aspie
That seems plausible. I'm a computer programmer who majored in physics, who doesn't understand social situations very well.
As for personality tests, I've lately come up INFJ, though I used to more often come up INTP.
The last two categories are on the borderline for me. I guess the thing is, I like and care about people even though it's exhausting, confusing, and difficult interacting with them.
quote:Originally posted by Shigosei: Also, here's a humorous sound clip that seems appropriate for this conversation: The Knack.
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Wow. It started off by asking me if I had a bunch of conditions I've never even been tested for, as far as I know.
But anyway:
Your Aspie score: 72 Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 131
I don't get why they asked about some of that stuff. Like being 'young for your age' or brand loyalty.
The first time I took it, I think I broke the internet. I had to re-take it twice before I could get a score.
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Some of the questions seemed really weird: does being ambidextrous really make a difference?
My brother is an engineering major and just about the most extroverted, socially comfortable person you can imagine. Heck, he's even in a frat.
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"Some people feel that much of the social difficulties in Asperger Syndrome are more accurately characterized as "mutual misunderstanding", in that neither the "aspie" nor the Non-autistic understands each other. Many aspies have a much easier time reading body language of other autistic people, and many NTs have difficulties interpreting autistic body language, which supports this theory. It could be compared to the nonverbal communication problems that often occur between people from different cultures. Lack of eye contact in some cultures means respect, while in others it is a sign of disrespect, for example."
This is so true of me! I feel that it's often true that people read totally wrong motives into things I do or say, and that I am clueless to understand so many subtexts of what is going on between people. I've always just called it "sucking at the whole people thing" syndrome instead of Aspergers. I try to compensate for my inability to understand nonverbal communication by consciously paying attention to clues of phrasing and body language and painstakingly thinking it through and deciding what someone means by something, but at least in cases where I'm able to find out the truth later, I was almost always totally wrong.
I apologize to everyone human for all my mistakes. It's not because I don't care. You all can speak a language to which I'm deaf. You don't even know you're speaking it, it's so instinctual to you, and so you interpret my deafness as rudeness, or stubbornness, or selfishness, or something. Please believe I'm trying as hard as I can to learn.
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On the Geek Quiz I only got 17. They said you should have at least 25 to count at Aspergers. I'll go take that other one now.
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Your Aspie score: 132 Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 96 You are more Aspie than neurotypical
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I'm noticing here that it is not an "either/or" situation. Just because your score in one is low doesn't mean the other will be high. It is more how the two scores relate to each other.
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