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What do you call these, when there's a twin thread? I still don't know all the mad hatrack terminology. Like I only recently learnt what a mayfly is.
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If there were a link, it would be a dobbie. Though if the link is accurate, that would be pornspam.
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And the reason it's called a Dobie is that there was a poster here by that name who started the tradition. In my opinion Dobie did it the best, too.
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I've always pictured you and everyone else who posts at Hatrack as completely clothed in a manner appropriate for discourse in polite company. If you (or anyone else here) posts in the nude, I'd rather not think about it.
Not that I think there is anything wrong with nudity per se, I just find it distracting. That and I find that most people look better with clothes on.
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Well, I know plenty of people that I find better looking in the nude, but I won't admit that here as it may sound like I'm depraved or something. I did consider once living in a nudist colony, because I see nothing inherently wrong with the “default” ( ) clothing position of Humans.
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I never said all people look better with clothing on. Nor did I say that I thought there was anything wrong with nudity. I said most people look better with clothing on. (And I suppose I should revise that to say most Americans look better with clothing on.) When you consider that half of Americans are over 35.3 and more than half of Americans are over weight, I think that "most look better with at least some clothing" is a fairly safe statement.
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This reminds me of a discussion I once had with artists about the distinction between "nude" and "naked", wherein nude adhered to some ideal of the human body, while naked was more the human body as part of nature.
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quote:Originally posted by pooka: Nice. (This is an appreciative nice and not a cooly sarcastic nice - I looked up the author of the poem and everything.)
Thanks -- that's how I took it! ;-)
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I like that poem because the words sound awesome but I've never really been able to figure out who the poet was talking about. Obviously nakedness is preferred over nudity by the poet, but I can't tell who he means by nudes. Does he mean like people selling something? The porn industry and people like Madonna or Brittney who sell their sexuality to the public for money? That doesn't seem to fit very well either. Can someone help me understand that poem?
The nude are bold, the nude are sly To hold each treasonable eye. While draping by a showman's trick Their dishabille in rhetoric, They grin a mock-religious grin Of scorn at those of naked skin.
The naked, therefore, who compete Against the nude may know defeat; Yet when they both together tread The briary pastures of the dead, By Gorgons with long whips pursued, How naked go the sometime nude!
What is a mock-religious grin of scorn?
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Nude is Venus Di Milo. Naked is Rodin's John the Baptist. Both would not get by in BYU's art museum.
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I take the "nude" in Robert Graves's poem to be those who think that they're being transgressive ("treasonable") or making a statement ("cloak[ing]" themselves in "rhetoric") by going without clothes in some situation. I don't think it's just people in porn; it's also people who while having sex get off on the idea that society disapproves of what they're doing.
Maybe a "grin of scorn" is the look you give someone who's doing something you think is wrong and doing it so stupidly you can't help but laugh. "Mock-religious" must mean having the form of a religion but relatively trivial content. So the "nude" must be treating the state of being without clothes as something more transcedent than it is, and pitying those who aren't so enlightened.
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