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Taalcon
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[DILEMMA SOLVED DUE TO REALIZATION OF MEMORY FART]

[ September 22, 2004, 04:00 PM: Message edited by: Taalcon ]

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AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! I forgot to watch Scrubs!!

In my world, it comes on immediately after.

I need to cultivate friends with televisions. This is surprisingly difficult lately.

[ September 22, 2004, 03:44 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]

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"Only a prostitute has two glasses of wine at lunch."

Ruth, it came on at 9:00 last night, I think. That was the second showing.

I can't wait till Luke starts tending the Ren Faire booth for his sister. *giggles like mad*

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I forgot about Gilmore Girls until 8:01 when my mom changed the channel. I screamed "GILMORE GIRLS!" and she threw me the remote. I completely missed last season so I was slightly confused about what was going on. Too bad the box set of it isn't already out. (I have to wait until December for season 2. Grr.)

I didn't like Rory so much in this episode. Why is she being so mean to Lorelai? It seems to me like she's projecting her anger at her self at Lorelai instead. I'm glad Lorelai and Luke finally got together.

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Taalcon
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You know what? I'm stupid. Scrubs DOES come on at 9:30pm. and I missed it 'cause I was dumb. Dumb and stupid.

I also missed the 10pm Nip/Tuck, which is downloading right now as we speak.

I will NOT miss tonight's Smallville or Rescue Me.

[ September 22, 2004, 04:01 PM: Message edited by: Taalcon ]

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No, you're not. You're just thinking about other things.

*small voice* I'd like to point out that this much like what happens in airports.

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I didn't say I am Dumb and stupid, I said I was. It was temporary, but recurring. Just not chronic.

[ September 22, 2004, 04:43 PM: Message edited by: Taalcon ]

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"Are you rebelling? Shouldn't this have happened five years ago? You blast goth music and slam the door to your bedroom now, you'll just confuse your roommates."

We were hysterical at that one.

[ September 22, 2004, 06:06 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]

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RRR- just noticed your comment about Knoxville! I'm originally from Knoxville- just living in Nashville finishing up school. It's so exciting to see another Tennessean!! Are you originally from TN, or elsewhere? Good to meet you!!
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I've lived here all my life. It's good to meet you too. [Smile]
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Television without Pity's recap of the Gilmore Girls premiere is up.
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*makes a point of not reading it.*

TWOP takes all the redeeming qualities of a show and ruins them for me. Nope. No TWOP for me.

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quote:
Lorelai excuses herself three steps to the left to have a private conversation with Luke. The foyer, it is soundproof, you see. Luke stammers that he has to get back to the diner. Taylor, who doesn't believe in soundproof foyers, says he's still standing there. Lorelai stammers that she has to...trail off mid-sentence, as Luke stammers that he's got some...trailing off to do as well.
TWOP makes me laugh. This would be enough for redemption, even if it needed it.

[ September 27, 2004, 01:25 AM: Message edited by: katharina ]

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Norman Mailer will guest star on ''Gilmore Girls.''
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The literary lion will play himself, a visitor to Lorelai's inn by Gary Susman

The next big celebrity guest star on Gilmore Girls is a fellow who's a tad outside the WB's youthful demographic: author Norman Mailer. USA Today reports that the 81-year-old literary lion will make his TV acting debut by playing himself on an episode airing in about a month. Son Stephen will play a reporter who interviews the writer while he's a guest at Lorelai's (Lauren Graham) inn.

What was it about the show that attracted Mailer (who noted that he wrote a famous book, The Executioner's Song, about killer Gary Gilmore)? "It had taste. It was witty and well put together. It had a certain élan that I liked," Mailer told USA Today. Turns out he also liked the show's trademark overcaffeinated repartée, even improvising some of his own dialogue. Shooting Mailer "was completely intimidating," said executive producer Amy Sherman-Palladino. '"But it was one of those moments where you say, ‘This is why you do this.'"

1. *wriggles happily* That's pretty cool.
2. Next big celebrity guest star? Have they EVER had a celebrity guest star on there?

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The recap is up on TWOP.
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I just loved that throwaway reference to Some Kind of Wonderful. [Smile]
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I only caught the last 3/4 but it was a good episode. I think I'll try and make a greater effort to watch it.

Luke and Lorelei in the diner (the other one) -- how perfect of a scene was that? This might be the first time in the history of TV where the guy and the girl get together and it's still interesting.

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I thought it was fabulous. "Luke has a Luke's!"

Paris had the very best line of the episode. I love her.

I watched this with Coccinelle, and our differing reactions to Luke's "I've loved you since the day I met you." story were very telling. She about melted, and I (reportedly) got a look of fear on my face and pulled away from the TV. Luke is adorable, but I think he's going to scare the crud out of Lorelai if he hasn't already. On the other hand, she was there for the preparation for that moment and we (the viewers) haven't been, so maybe it didn't freak her out as much as it did me.

I'm glad you liked it, Zal. [Smile]

[ October 06, 2004, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]

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They've been flirting for EIGHT years!

I loved Luke: "This is my relationship, not yours, not yours, (points to Lorelai) yours (nods) and NOT yours!"

Talk about telling the town who's in charge of his life!

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They went from flirting to "I've loved you for eight years, carried a memento of the day we met in my wallet for eight years, and, by the way, I'm planning on us never breaking up and I'm so sure of it that I promise to move away from the town I've lived in all my life and that my family has lived in for generations if we do.

<pause> By the way, you with me?"

Holy CRAP!!!

I'm just saying there's no doubt he makes her weak at the knees and she adores and depends on him, but I have a feeling that rushing or pushing her is not a good idea. [Smile] She's been saying no to the love her life for twenty years because she was scared of what it would be like to be with him - she can say no to the other love of her life, too.

Added: It is nice to know that there is someone who takes care of Luke as much as he takes care of other people, though. That makes sense. [Smile]

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I stand firm in my position that it's incredibly romantic. [Smile]
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Yeah, Paris was great in this episode.

But what's with surly blond rich boy II i.e. Tristan Jr.?

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<very small voice> I liked him.
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He was trying too hard to look like he wasn't trying hard.

But at least he is interesting. Dean is so very uninteresting.

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Dean is whiney. This guy sparkled.
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one disturbed by Luke's sudden admission of his eight-year infatuation with Lorelei. It did seem very creepy to me.

And what's with Luke suddenly talking like Lorelei and every other character on the show? I respected Amy Sherman-Palladino's dialogue writing more because he alone sounded different from everybody else, but it turns out that when he starts to talk, he doesn't. Ah, well.

I thought the whole Paris thing was done pretty well, but I didn't like Luke and Lorelei jumping right into bed on their first date. What happened to two people who have taken eight years to even get to a first date? I don't know . . . I just didn't believe it. It seems that this season, every character has gotten skanky and I don't like it. It's not just the prude in me, either . . . I don't know; I'm just not completely buying it based on what I know of the characters, and when that happens, it's always a bad thing, in my opinion.

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Wow! SwiftVet and Florida election reference within two minutes of each other. Now that's fair and balanced. [Big Grin]

I love how Lorelai tried to get people to vote for Taylor. [Smile]

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Can I get a rundown from this week? I fell asleap and missed all but the last fifteen minutes. What happened with Rory and Dean?
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*spoiler*

Dean went to the election rally and apologized to Rory for behaving like an ass. He said the whole moving back with his parents thing was a little harder than he thought.

Rory asked (in a nice way) whether Dean would've left his wife if she did not discovery Rory's letter.

Dean said yes, but with just a tiny bit of noticeable hesitation.

Rory said "great" and smiled, and moved some hair out of her face as she turned away from Dean. I don't think Rory believes Dean, although she really wants to.

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quote:
Rory asked (in a nice way) whether Dean would've left his wife if she did not discovery Rory's letter.

Dean said yes, but with just a tiny bit of noticeable hesitation.

Rory said "great" and smiled, and moved some hair out of her face as she turned away from Dean. I don't think Rory believes Dean, although she really wants to.

This little scene struck me as incredibly odd and dishonest. In the season premiere, Dean told Rory that he didn't know what he'd been thinking when he slept with her. He had a wife and Rory had repeatedly bailed on him. It seems REALLY obvious that he wouldn't have left his wife if she hadn't found the letter. This scene makes me think that the characters were either trying to decieve themselves or the writers were being sloppy. ???
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You missed the first forty-five minutes? if I'm reading that correctly.

*spoilers*
Dean's sharing the car with Lindsay so couldn't make it to Yale to see Rory. Rory drove to Dean's house instead and Dean's mom was not giving them their privacy. Next they try Rory's car but that doesn't work. Rory asks Dean if he wants to go to Jackson's town selectman rally with her and Dean throws a mini-tantrum about throwing stuff into Lindsay's face. Then they make up when Dean goes to the rally.
In other news, Jackson challenges Taylor for the town selectman position. Luke makes breakfast for Lorelai at her house but she would rather have it at Luke's. Lane's band (HepAlien?) plays at Jackson's election rally. Jackson wins the election. Lorelai feels sorry for Taylor. Lane tells Zack that she likes him. Lorelai remembers that Luke goes to bed early and doesn't like champagne.

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Yikes. Sorry about that. I'm watching the Laker game and didn't read your post correctly.
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Coccinelle, those're the highlights. Most of it is in order.

Yes, I agree, Amanecer. It felt like Dean and Lindsay were not going to split up before Lindsay found the letter. The roast beef was a very nice touch. They seemed to be getting along really well.

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I also liked how Lane declared her feelings. She looked just like her mom when she said that. [Big Grin]

Amanecer, I think the characters are lying to themselves. The writers are playing with fire here. If I begin to hate Rory, the show would be a lot less enjoyable for me.

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Thanks for the recap. It's amazing, I figured out most of what happened within the last few minutes.

*No longer feels committed to watch the whole show every week* What a relief!

I agree that the scene seemed dishonest (well the recap at least) Dean didn't act like he had any intention of telling whats-her-face that he'd slept with Rory. Why did Rory ask? I'd like to think that deep down she knows the truth.

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Gyah. Get Dean off the show. [Frown]
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I agree.
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Amanecer, I think the characters are lying to themselves. The writers are playing with fire here. If I begin to hate Rory, the show would be a lot less enjoyable for me.
I know how you feel. [Frown] After Rory slept with Dean, I lost all respect for her character. I hoped the writers would deal with this well, but I'm just not seeing it. After four years of pretty faithful watching, I'm thinking about dropping it. I hope they fix this, but I just don't know. [Dont Know]
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I'm seeing last night's episode right now.

I. Love. Paris.

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Okay, I just finished it.

I hate the Rory and Dean stuff, except I never thought Rory was perfect so it's kind of understandable - she doesn't know what she's doing. I also didn't like the opening scene with Luke and Lorelai. Lorelai, you have a smoking-gorgeous man in your kitchen fixing you breakfast. Enjoy it.

However, I did like the final scene. For lots of reasons. The episode ended much better than it started.

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Story on Slate: Gilmore Girls the most bookish show on television

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It's not just that Rory Gilmore (Alexis Bledel), the teenage heroine who, until she left for Yale, lived with her sexy single mom, Lorelai (Lauren Graham), in tiny Stars Hollow, Conn., is an inveterate bookworm, dropping historical and cultural references every other line; the writers of Gilmore Girls, led by creator Amy Sherman-Palladino, actually understand something about the way books function in adolescent life. Literary references are to the women of this show what pop-music references are to the teenage boys of The O.C.: a badge of identity, a cultural currency that symbolizes the young characters' emerging sense of selfhood. Borrowed, traded, or earnestly pressed upon others, books are a way of concretizing the teenager's secret conviction that if only someone could truly understand them, everything would be all right.

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Great article. Although I'm disappointed there wasn't a brief mention of Paris dating a novelist.

Here's the thing with Dean -- he's comfortable and dangerous at the same time. Isn't that what the whole last episode was about? Dean knows all the or L and R's habits and customs, their secret language.

Rory isn't brave enough yet for someone more her speed.

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Mediocre episode last night -- by Gilmore Girls standards. Still fairly entertaining in comparison to the rest of the TV-scape.

Sidenote: The Kirk appearance in this episode was fairly routine, but his appearance in the previous episode was one of his best ever [the part where they want more popcorn and he is making out with his girlfriend was hilarious -- as was the whole explanation of the movie choices].

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Wow, was that a moveon.org reference. I love this show. [Razz]
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Last night's episode was brilliant -- funny, charming, touching and witty.
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I agree, it was wonderful. I laughed the whole hour, and I positively cheered the ending.

I think Rory is not at all integrated into any kind of college life and that's to her detriment, but maybe ASP is giving her somewhere to go. [Smile]

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Is there somewhere I can get a detailed summary or even a script of the show? I was at poetry club last night, and we were using our VCR to record Jeopardy.
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I flipped through last night and was astonished by the pacing of the dialog. Obviously I have missed a lot here.
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Brinestone: This one is good enough that you really should wait for the Television Without Pity recap to be posted. It'd be the next best thing to watching the show.
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Anyone else notice that "Amy Sherman-Palladino" has the same meter as "chocolate mocha frappacino"?

Every time I read her name I have a mental image of a trio of male models chanting AMY SHERman-pallaDINo!

DD: The TWOP recaplet of Gilmore Girls

Added: Oh, and I adore Logan. He seems like a fabulous time, and cute enough to keep. I'm not thrilled by the entourage, but I like him.

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