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Storm Saxon
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I posted this over on Ornery, but I would be interested in getting opinions from people on this side as well.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20118-2003Dec21.html

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Elite Israeli Troops Refuse To Serve in the Territories

By Molly Moore
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, December 22, 2003; Page A19

JERUSALEM, Dec. 21 -- Thirteen reservists from Israel's elite military commando unit stated Sunday in a letter to the prime minister that they would no longer serve in the occupied territories, joining other influential security officials who have recently criticized Israeli military tactics and treatment of the Palestinians.

"We have long ago crossed the line between fighters fighting a just cause and oppressing another people," three officers and 10 soldiers of the army's most secretive unit, the Sayeret Matkal, said in the letter to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. The letter was made public by the soldiers, who signed with their ranks, first names and the first letter of their last names.

See, also this.

And this is another response to the letter.

And here's the 'refusenik' website.

And from that site, the text of the actual letter.

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Shlomo
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Whether or not what the IDF is doing in Gaza is "occupation", it sure as hell isn't remotely productive.

Well, I guess it's the war on terror. You can either be a traitor to your country or support the next war. Yessiree! *Salutes*

"This is a democracy. Therefore, they have no right to refuse."

That comment would be HALARIOUS if it weren't so tragic.

BTW, this isn't solely an Israeli phenomenon.

Whatever these terror-fighters are trying to protect, it's looking less like a democracy.

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Maccabeus
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Shlomo, it's even less productive when the terrorists get through. It's one thing to dispute whether we in the US can afford to back off; it's another thing entirely to dispute whether Israel can. They are right next to their enemy, who can appear in their territory at any time and just as easily melt back into the civilian populace whenever they like.

By way of comparison, we had the option to disengage from Vietnam when we decided the fight was hopeless. The South Vietnamese did not.

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