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People can change. I didn't much care for Orincoro when he first arrived here. I thought he already had his mind made up on every issue, including those where he had little knowledge on which to base his opinions. A couple months ago, however, he and I had an incredibly constructive conversation which completely changed my opinion.
When I started at Hatrack my freshman year in college, I made 5 or 6 disastrous mistakes in the first few months of participation. If people still remember them, they no longer bring them into the conversation. I hope that is because I have grown up in the last 4 years. Take the advice people give you, keep trying, and you will find yourself thriving here in no time.
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"The complaints have been myriad and confusing, yes, but I think the grievous complaint, the real stinker, is not how you write." You then go on to list a long series of complaints about how I write.
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*snicker* I can't help it; I keep getting sucked in!
Now how you write. What you sound like when you write. There's a difference between how you write - your grammar and word choice - and the tone you use, your inability to accept any suggestions, your attitude of always being right.
Of course, it may seem to you like a criticism of your writing, since the only interface we have with you is your writing; but it's really a criticism of your thinking and the way you deal with people who disagree with you. Also a criticism that you don't know your audience - we are neither imbeciles to be talked down to, nor your teachers to be impressed with long words, nor people who come here to read lengthy footnoted articles. We're fairly intelligent members of a discussion board, who like to discuss things, not be lectured at.
Yes, all those things come across in your writing, because that's how you interact with us; but as surely you can see by now, it's not a criticism of your writing so much as your thinking.
(What am I doing defending Orincoro?!)
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"It's not a criticism of your writing so much as your thinking."
Which is, clearly, infinitely preferable.
" [we are not] people who come here to read lengthy footnoted articles." I can cite sources or I can not, but I most do one, although both attract criticism. Of course, no one has to read the footnotes.
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quote:Originally posted by Pelegius: "It's not a criticism of your writing so much as your thinking."
Which is, clearly, infinitely preferable.
Yes, well? Would you like to defend the utter arrogance of your thoughts, or are you going to crawl into a shell and say "I yam what I yam"?
quote:" [we are not] people who come here to read lengthy footnoted articles." I can cite sources or I can not, but I most do one, although both attract criticism. Of course, no one has to read the footnotes.
The objection was to lengthy articles, not the footnotes.
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You did it! You managed to learn nothing from my post too! I am in awe.
... Well, not really in awe, as that would imply that I am so good at writing that everyone should be enlightened by my posts, and you managed to do the impossible. That would be arrogant.
Let me just slink away into oblivion, as obviously my points are as blunt as a pancake.
(Did you really think my objection was to you citing your sources? Boy, I've gotten bad at this.)
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Actualy, I thin that Liam Aiken, who is younger and shorter than I am, and Rollo Weeks, who is older and still shorter, both look like me and could play me very well. Liam Aiken looks more like me, but Rollo Weeks is probably the better actor.
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Pel, to be honest, nobody wants to hear about how one of your teachers once played chess with Plato, and therefore extra special knowledge has been passed to you.
That's been my biggest issue in this whole thread.
quote:Originally posted by Bob_Scopatz: We had it...It turned out the be the "Al Capone's vault" of greatest moments.
LOL
Pel, if a movie was made about Hatrack, you probably wouldn't even be in it to be honest. That may not be true in the future, but as of right now I know that for a fact.
Whiny doesn't go over well on the big screen either, and we have enough ham on our plate with Icky and Bob. Posts: 15082 | Registered: Jul 2001
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No, no, Shatner is needed to play Hatrack's own James Tiberious Kirk, of course.
I see James Woods as Pelegius--touchy, scenery-chewing, and able to pull off the hammy lines without rolling his eyes.
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Although I think Pelegius' writing style is pompous (you make me giggle), and although I think this thread is attention-seeking, can I just say that I write the word "role" with the circumflex. (When I know how to do it, as is not the case here online.) I think it is pretty! But stupid Microsoft Word says DEATH TO THE CIRCUMFLEX and does an AutoCorrect every time I try to do this.
So I love your pretty circumflexes, Pelegius! Bring back the circumflexed (imagine a wee accent mark over the final E in that word!) "role"! And double superlatives like most unkindest!
(I am not pretentious. Just aesthetically pleased by pretty circumflexes.)
Jen
Edit: Having read most of this thread, it makes me a little concerned that Pel is really someone totally different than what he claims and he is sitting at home with his friends laughing his a$$ off at how a little pomposity can get people riled up. Pel, darling, are you having us on?
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I've been told once-upon-a-time I look a bit like Anne Hathaway and she's about my age. I'd be that pretend "geek" character (who inevitably suffers from a lack of not actually truly being geeky at all- does that bug anyone else?) she always plays at the beginning of films before she becomes ridiculously cool, confident and successful.
However, given the choice, I probably wouldn't want to be played by her. She's far too... floofy. I'm not that floofy.
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Wow. I never noticed that. True though, I suppose my threads generate alot of Sheetmusicplus adds, and ads for adult diapers...
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You know, considered as prose, Pel's posts aren't that bad. Sheer bollocks for communicating meaning, and horribly self-dramatizing (then again, which of us wasn't guilty of this in our teenage years), but sort of pretty if you just sit back and let them flow.
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I'd prefer Cate Blanchett for you, kat. Scarlett seems too airheady for how I perceive you, whereas Cate comes across as very intelligent while mysterious with lots of layers. Not that you're necessarily mysterious with lots of layers, but I could see her doing a good job with you. Posts: 8355 | Registered: Apr 2003
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I just love her choice of movies. Or, well, the ones I've seen anyway. Let me see... Elizabeth. LotR (of course). A psychic in, um, The Gift. The Shipping News. Ooh, ooooh... An Ideal Husband. Really, I don't think I've ever not liked her in a role. Posts: 8355 | Registered: Apr 2003
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She did it in Bandits, which movie also stars my shameful Hollywood crush, Billy Bob Thornton. I know he's skeezy (I used to get my hair cut by the makeup artist in charge of The Alamo) and not cute and usually plays the weirdo, but there's something magnetic about him, like Owen Meany.
Bandits is a great movie if you're ready to accept that world. It's not hard to accept, and it added to my wish that I had red hair.
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quote:Originally posted by quidscribis: I'd prefer Cate Blanchett for you, kat. Scarlett seems too airheady for how I perceive you, whereas Cate comes across as very intelligent while mysterious with lots of layers. Not that you're necessarily mysterious with lots of layers, but I could see her doing a good job with you.
Kate Blanchett would be good, but if I were casting someone to play kat it would definitely be Scarlett Johannson, as she looked in Lost in Translation. The way she looks in that film is frighteningly close to being exactly as I'd conceived of kat as looking before I'd actually seen a picture of her.
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quote:Originally posted by Noemon: Man. That seems needlessly harsh, Kwea.
Since I would probaby be just a cameo myself I stand by what I said. He just hasn't made that much of an impact, you know.
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Given my .. um, extremely limited interactions with the forum (mostly sark and one-liners), I guess I should be played by that guy who does Dr. Cox from Scrubs.
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Icky- be careful or I will cast a "latin sensation" to play your role melodramatically, going into the anals of bad movie-acting done by self-centered musicians.
It could be Iglesias, that would be rather sad. You don't want that, do you? You'll only get Antonio Banderes if you play nice... otherwise you get Emilio Estevez... and NO ONE wants that for you.
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quote:Originally posted by Kwea: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Orincoro: [qb] Icky- be careful or I will cast a "latin sensation" to play your role melodramatically, going into the anals of bad movie-acting done by self-centered musicians.
It could be Iglesias, that would be rather sad. You don't want that, do you? You'll only get Antonio Banderes if you play nice... otherwise you get Emilio Estevez... and NO ONE wants that for you.
You cast anyone into Icky's anals and his wife will kill you.
Unless Icky does it first.
Ori.....if I am only a walk on, you won't even get to sweep the cutting room floor let alone cast anyone as anything. Posts: 15082 | Registered: Jul 2001
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