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Except there's no "ah" in my life. As I said, I pronounce it like lie+f. Lie has no "ah" sound in it. Maybe I should clarify in case you don't know: I'm not from (nor have I lived in) the Deep South.
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The "crowns" thing drives my sister crazy - she teaches early elementary school in Maryland. They say "the crowns are in the draw" instead of "the crayons are in the drawer".
With life, I suppose "lahf" is the way Foghorn Leghorn says it. I've also heard it as "lie-f" where the "lie" is a little bit longer. I suppose the only way I could spell how I say it is "Lyfe" - one very short syllable.
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FlyingCow's right; Foghorn Leghorn is one of the exaggerated ones I was talking about before. Maybe "lahf" is for people from the Deep South. I don't hear it around Oklahoma/Texas though.
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Yeah, but you really can't take Bush as representing all Texans. I mean look at how many other words he mispronounces. *shakes his head*
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quote:With life, I suppose "lahf" is the way Foghorn Leghorn says it. I've also heard it as "lie-f" where the "lie" is a little bit longer. I suppose the only way I could spell how I say it is "Lyfe" - one very short syllable.
I bet if we recorded me and you speaking pfresh, you would have a longer, more open-mouthed "i" than I do in my "life". You don't have to be from the Deep South to have a bit of an accent compared to up where I live. It may be incredibly subtle, but I bet there's a difference, enough to place you in the south and me in the north.
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Teshi, were you responding to pfresh, or to me? You seem to have quoted me, and responded to pfresh. Posts: 3960 | Registered: Jul 2001
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It's all about the diphthong. The long-I sound is two sounds together - "ah" and "ee". People down here just leave off the "ee" part. Or they make the "ah" much longer and the "ee" much shorter (to the point of being unnoticeable) than people ... elsewhere.
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quote:Teshi, were you responding to pfresh, or to me? You seem to have quoted me, and responded to pfresh.
Ah sorry, I did mean to do that. I meant to use your commment in order to continue my explanation. I can see it's confusing.
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I thought there was only one (the sound in pot), but apparently some people use "ah" to represent the sound in pat, too.
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quote:Originally posted by Jon Boy: I thought there was only one (the sound in pot), but apparently some people use "ah" to represent the sound in pat, too.
The sound in pot is not an "ah"; it's an "ahhhh" (as in, "Stick out your tongue").
How would you represent the sound in pat, using only the English alphabet?
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I've been doing it by specifically saying in a parenthetical (the "a" sound from cat, pat, sat, etc)
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quote:I grew up saying Kahh-ri-mel but now it sometimes comes out CAR-muhl
Ok, now I'm confused. Which "ahh" do you mean?
You mean in the "Kahh" part? *thinks* I mean like the A in "cat" except NewEnglandized, with more breath.
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quote:Originally posted by Jon Boy: I thought there was only one (the sound in pot), but apparently some people use "ah" to represent the sound in pat, too.
The sound in pot is not an "ah"; it's an "ahhhh" (as in, "Stick out your tongue").
Stick out your tongue? At any rate, I don't see how sticking more h's on the end makes it represent a different sound.
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I get that part. I'm not sure what that has to do with the vowel in pot, though, unless you're saying that you stick out your tongue when you say it.
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Uh-oh. Here we go again. My pot and soft are two different vowel sounds! (But my ahhhhh for the doctor is the same as the vowel sound in pot. "Soft" has the NY awww sound. But I do know a lot of people who pronounce both sounds the same.)
I wouldn't normally represent the "cat" vowel sound w/ "ahh" but that is the sound I read when I saw Kahh-ri-mel (or however it was spelled). So FWIW (not much!) I say that first "a" like the one in cat.
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I thought it was clear after several pages of this kind of thing that some people use the same sound for words like cot and caught, and some people don't.
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It's still weird. Tot and taught, bot and bought, sot and sought, hot and whatever it is that Paris Hilton says...
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