quote:Tom states his opinions as facts. He's been doing it for 11 years. I can't honestly say I understand people still expression surprise at this.
I guess its just the obviously subjective nature of the word "fun" that throws me. Having someone declare their opinion as fact on something that's hopelessly subjective makes my brain seize up I guess .
What don't understand is why so many people feel the need to preface things which are obviously opinion with "I think" or "In my opinion"? Why do so many think that failure to preface an obvious opinion with such a disclaimer is tantamount to declare ones opinion to be indisputable?
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If I were to speculate, I'd say people feel the need because it sometimes actually does distinguish between describing a subjective evaluation and telling someone else their own evaluation is wrong. Because the latter can be somewhat rude, many people err on the side of caution in order to avoid causing offense.
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I really, REALLY miss the SpecOps missions. My brother and I spent HOURS trying to master those with the last game, and it was a blast.
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This game is made by treyarch, and while they're competent, there's no way they could od something as awesome as spec ops.
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quote:Tom states his opinions as facts. He's been doing it for 11 years. I can't honestly say I understand people still expression surprise at this.
I guess its just the obviously subjective nature of the word "fun" that throws me. Having someone declare their opinion as fact on something that's hopelessly subjective makes my brain seize up I guess .
What don't understand is why so many people feel the need to preface things which are obviously opinion with "I think" or "In my opinion"? Why do so many think that failure to preface an obvious opinion with such a disclaimer is tantamount to declare ones opinion to be indisputable?
Because there are lots of people out there that actually DO consider their opinions to be indisputable.
Also, lots of listeners aren't all that great at differentiating between recitation of fact and offering of opinion. Expressly identifying them can cut down on confusion a lot of the time.
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The definition of an opinion is something you think is correct, so this discussion is pretty pointless, imo.
I'll say "imo" if I'm just trying to be friendly or if I'm basing it off of a small exposure to something like having only played an RTS for a week or something.
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quote:Originally posted by Mucus: I play Aliens vs. Predator to simulate being an Alien or a Predator. I play Call of Duty to simulate being an American.
quote:Originally posted by El JT de Spang: Tom states his opinions as facts. He's been doing it for 11 years. I can't honestly say I understand people still expression surprise at this.
no, not surprised by that. its how reliably he doesn't understand the entertainment value of some games!
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Well, I wouldn't say that's true. I understand the entertainment value of shooters, although the popularity of certain shooters compared to superior ones that are more fun surprises me; I suspect it has something to do with the "deer hunting" effect, and perhaps something else to do with people being silly enough to play their shooters on the Xbox instead of the way shooters are meant to be played. *grin* But I maintain that MMOs are popular in a way that is largely disconnected from any entertainment value at all, unless you consider smoking outside in the rain to also be "entertaining."
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I play Bejeweled when I want to simulate being a Belgian. I've always assumed the people being hauled out of their cars in GTA who don't even try to stop me are Canadians.
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quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: Well, I wouldn't say that's true. I understand the entertainment value of shooters, although the popularity of certain shooters compared to superior ones that are more fun surprises me; I suspect it has something to do with the "deer hunting" effect, and perhaps something else to do with people being silly enough to play their shooters on the Xbox instead of the way shooters are meant to be played. *grin* But I maintain that MMOs are popular in a way that is largely disconnected from any entertainment value at all, unless you consider smoking outside in the rain to also be "entertaining."
I play Forgotten Hope, Project Reality and Arma 2/Joint Ops high on the fun/realism list.
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