Topic: Haruhi Suzumiya Thread [ TIME LOOP IS OVAH!]
Blayne Bradley
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quote:Originally posted by Orincoro:
quote:Isn't that from... the 80's or something?
1975, but don't worry, it's the kind of pretentious hipster ejecta that it is already becoming cool not to like, as it has long been adopted by the pseudo-scenester wannabe high school drama nerds, leading to the inevitable double hipster backlash. Needless to say it is better avoided, as it is in all actuality a tedious and incomprehensible pile of excrement that is too bad to watch alone, and too grave a social statement to watch with friends.
It's one of those weird pieces of Americana that teeter precariously between "so bad it's good," and "so bad it's awful," with successive generations of impressionable teens being confused as to whether they are meant to love it for its representation of all that is wrong in art, or because it actually *is* art.
You stole that from Tv Tropes and didn't source it, your a monster.
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Maybe I'm just socially awkward, but I couldn't possible disagree more. There is little I would not choose over a screening of that film.
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You stole that from Tv Tropes and didn't source it, your a monster. [/QUOTE]
Check and see if I copied a word. I didn't- in fact I disagree with the TV tropes article on it, and I just checked to see what that had to say.
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quote:it's the kind of pretentious hipster ejecta that it is already becoming cool not to like
You're about twenty years too late. RHPS was uncool, then cool, then uncool, then cool, then uncool, then cool, then uncool, then cool, then kind of awkward, then cool, then uncool, then cool again.
What can be said for it is this: it is a fun way to spend an evening. Trying to figure out whether it's currently cool or not is left as an exercise for the reader.
You can argue that the only thing it's safe to like as a pretentious hipster is something no one has ever heard of. To this end, it's probably best to make something up, and then act all smug and superior when people ask what it is or where they can get a copy. "Oh, you can't. I had to bootleg a copy in the original Russian, but really you can only get the full experience when you've got the whole troupe of mimes and a bassoon, as per Volskievchi."
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And Blayne: just like the words "plot hole" weren't invented by tvtropes, neither was a lot of things, including the term "so bad it's good."
I was gonna go over this sort of thing at length yesterday, but I didn't get to post my silly, lengthy post, due to computer issues. Such is life.
But anyway, as I would have said: tvtropes is no Bible, and get over your obsession with it. Describe things without referencing it, use your own opinions, ironically enough, like Orincoro did.
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Blayne Bradley
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No. I like Tv Tropes. Its funny and awesome, I have few things to get obsessed about this is it.
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But seriously. You should use your own words, at least.
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So anyways Lucky Star:
Lucky Star strikes me as a very fun Anime to watch, fun in the way that you can almost feel yourself havng fun with the cast, this is compounded if you can get some of the injokes like Aye Hirano Adam Westing as herself and her being the voice actor for Konata who cosplays as Suzumiya Haruhi who Aye voice acted as well!
Then there's the fun Otaku filling where Konata is a video game and MMORPG fanatic displaying many of the characteristics of the North American geek and with said groups study habits as well.
Where this goes from funny to awesome is how the writers really really really!! Did their research, sure some of the description shots of them "playing" an mmo seems incorrect the dialogue between the characters is spot on!
That and this series seems to thrive on seinfielding conversations and pulls it off pretty well can't judge it on the actual standards of Seinfield as after all its been a while and 90's humor wears off for a while, so as a refreshing difference for example having the principle cast talk about the proper way to eat a chocolait filled pastry seemed downright hilarious as you only expect it to last 5 minutes but goes on for about half the show! In different ways with minor breaks for other jokes.
Its almost like watching an animated version of your own life in an anime club but rather then say in my life experience which had 40 people here we have a situation where its more like 4 to 8 people so you got a more close knit character dynamic.
So you have Konata whose your standard video game otaku, then we have Kagami who does like games but not to Otaku levels preferring side scroller shooters and apparently the fans see some les Yay subtext between them though I haven't found anything yet. Kagami is pretty cool shes a tsundere but probably the more complex character of the four, Miyuki is the standard aaah moe cute girl whom I don't particularily like so far she just exists to explain advance concepts shes basically foil for the other three and then theres the fraternal twin of Kagami whom I forget her name which says a bit she seems a smaller version of Miyuki and just exists to soften the atmosphere and provide cheap laughs.
So we come back to Konata and Kagami whom have the better dynamics.
Then in the 4th wall segments "Lucky Channel" that plays at the end we have Akira Kogami and Shinsui or something or other, a standard strait man to be victimized by Bitch in sheeps clothing Akira which is an interesting dynamic and extremely funny as its a satirical poke at Japanese pop idol sensations as Akira "on screen" is this cute genki girl with a high pitched voice persona but "off camera" shes apparently a chain smoking deeper voiced jerk who feels threatened by anyone "cuter/more popular" then her whose been in "showbiz" since she was 3. She gives off the Woobie vibe for me and I have the urge to give her a hug when she gets bitchy dunno why, probably because shes only really like that because shes essentially been abused and possibly her life ruined to provide cheap entertainment to the masses so she'll probably be burnt out soon.
Though the Anime seems to if I read correctly understate her popularity, the manga apparently treats her a bit better.
The shows opening theme is completely nonsensical lyrically but is nice to listen to seems to be the next hare hare yukai in terms of its dance.
The only thing I dislike about the show is its animation style which i dislike on principle in any anime as it feels like a shortcut, a way to cut corners and save money, they can do better!
But for once I will not begrudge them points for it and will give Lucky Star 5/5 for being so good IN SPITE OF its animation quality that it deserves the extra mark.
Then again there's an argument to be made had it been a more detailed animation style might have been 6/5
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quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: You stole that from Tv Tropes and didn't source it, your a monster.
You know what was a monster? Frampton Comes Alive, 1976. Is there anyone you knew who didn't have that record?
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quote:it's the kind of pretentious hipster ejecta that it is already becoming cool not to like
You're about twenty years too late. RHPS was uncool, then cool, then uncool, then cool, then uncool, then cool, then uncool, then cool, then kind of awkward, then cool, then uncool, then cool again.
Why wasn't I not misinformed?
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quote:Originally posted by 0Megabyte: But anyway, as I would have said: tvtropes is no Bible, and get over your obsession with it. Describe things without referencing it, use your own opinions, ironically enough, like Orincoro did.
To be fair, "so bad it's good" juxtaposed with "so bad it's awful" was indeed something I picked up on TV tropes. Still, the opinions stated are entirely my own.
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Episode 9 ends it
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Blayne Bradley
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Anyways just watched the OVA of "Read or Die" looks interesting its like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen on.... something except the league are evil and clones of historical figures like Beetoven and Tesla.
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Yes! Finally! Its over! And the last moment was so well done that I feel it was all worth the wait, hopefully there is the episode now where nagato snaps.
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I occasionally have these flashes of, "Oh, hey, that's cool," or "Poor Nagato," or "Why is Koizumi the only one that says literally the exact same thing every single time? Is he a robot?" But most of the time my husband and I are drooling on the keyboard.
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