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There was a discussion about this on the Avodah list (a list with discussions about various issues in Jewish law) about a year ago. There are a lot of rabbis on the list, and the general consensus was that it would probably have the same status as soya imitations of meat, regardless of the source.
The question of the growth medium, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have been addressed. That could make a difference, I imagine.
Rivka, if you'd like links to the discussion, let me know.
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I second rivka's "maybe" on the kosher question. And it is likely that there will not be an overall consensus on whether it is permitted or not. This is fairly common in contemporary times -- one rabbi will certify a product to be kosher, and some folks will not accept that certification because it is not stringent enough. And in the case of ambiguous foods, some will always choose the side of caution, while others will not. Gelatin is a case in point.
I can't count the number of people who are shocked to find that many kosher-observant Jews (myself included) will eschew Hebrew National Frankfurters because they do not consider them to be kosher.
And there are long-established traditional groups of kosher-observant Jews who disagree about what foods, exactly, are allowed or forbidden on Passover.
That said, as described here, vat-grown meat sounds very very icky. They will need some very clever marketing to make people want to buy it. I am certainly put off by it.
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I believe that in GG&S, the conclusion Diamond readched was that farming takes less work now...but in that very lengthy, millienia-long duration between mechanized farming and manual-labor farming, it is actually more work-intensive than hunter--gathering.
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I think Tante has the right of it. And sL, I believe I may have read that discussion. Not to mention participated in a similar one over on the torah.org fora a while back.
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See, I just don't get the squick factor at all. It could be the death of lab grown meat, at least for the near future, because it seems pretty common, but it doesn't make any sense to me.
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No problem--it's a pretty natural question, and my response was a little snappish. Maybe some coffee would do me good too. Mmmmmm, coffee....
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quote:Originally posted by Noemon: See, I just don't get the squick factor at all. It could be the death of lab grown meat, at least for the near future, because it seems pretty common, but it doesn't make any sense to me.
I think it's related to the kosher thing. Vat-grown meat is rather like third- (or fourth-, or fifth-, etc.) degree leftovers. You know that joke about leftovers?
quote:The remarkable thing about my mother is that for thirty years she served us nothing but leftovers. The original meal has never been found.
-- Calvin Trillin
Kind of like that.
This is both why I find it somewhat squicky, and why it may be a kosher issue -- it's hardly ex nihilo.
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quote:Originally posted by rivka: I think Tante has the right of it. And sL, I believe I may have read that discussion. Not to mention participated in a similar one over on the torah.org fora a while back.
The thing is, I also agree with Esther on the squick factor. So I don't much care.
Have you ever been to a slaughterhouse? 'Cause I have, and if that didn't squick me out of eating meat, I can't imagine that a meat-jet printer would be any worse. Being able to eat yummy meat without having to think about the animals it used to be is a major plus in my book.
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Yup. Doesn't bother me. (Well, the smell was rather nasty, but other than that.) Neither did reading The Jungle. (I believe I was one of only two people in my college class of ~30 who didn't find it deeply disturbing.)
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Hey, I didn't think of it and I'm still looking for reasons to use it. Unfortunately I doubt it will come up in conversation very often.
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quote:Originally posted by The Pixiest: Hey, I didn't think of it and I'm still looking for reasons to use it. Unfortunately I doubt it will come up in conversation very often.
I can't take credit for it. I've heard it used elsewhere.
quote:Originally posted by rivka: Yup. Doesn't bother me. (Well, the smell was rather nasty, but other than that.) Neither did reading The Jungle. (I believe I was one of only two people in my college class of ~30 who didn't find it deeply disturbing.)
Wow. You must have a stomach of steel.
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