...Okay, I'm awful, but I'll confess I thought it was funny.
Now, politicians in general really ought to know better than to make a joke like that. But on the other hand, Cheney has such a reputation as an ogre it's kind of interesting to see him looking, well, human.
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Everyone around here makes jokes like that all the time -- except Arkansas is usually the target, not West Virginia.
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Yeah, my reaction was pretty similar to Farmgirl's. I'm sure that it gets tiresome if you're from one of the states that is the butt of that kind of joke, but I don't really see this as something that requires an apology.
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I tend to agree...growing up in Iowa it was always Missouri or Minnesota getting those types of jokes, I think it is a very common state to state joke thing...not a huge deal in my mind!
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Well, I do think it is a little uncouth for someone in high elected office to make such a joke, but I still don't think it requires an official apology, and Robert Byrd didn't need to get up in arms about it.
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quote:Originally posted by Lostinspace: I tend to agree...growing up in Iowa it was always Missouri or Minnesota getting those types of jokes, I think it is a very common state to state joke thing...not a huge deal in my mind!
Yup - I had the same thing in Wisconsin, except it was the UP of Michigan and Illinois who got the brunt of the jokes.
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quote:Originally posted by Lostinspace: I tend to agree...growing up in Iowa it was always Missouri or Minnesota getting those types of jokes, I think it is a very common state to state joke thing...not a huge deal in my mind!
Yup - I had the same thing in Wisconsin, except it was the UP of Michigan and Illinois who got the brunt of the jokes.
Hey! Those freaking Oopers and Flatlanders have it coming!
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It was definitely uncouth and given his position he probably should not have said it, but my Lord, I've heard much worse and I don't think other politicians should make too big a deal about it.
But, some will. The nature of politics, and all that.
State to state jokes are definitely a staple, my favorite is this one:
"What's Alabama's state motto?"
"Thank God for Mississippi."
Implying, naturally, that we would be #50 in all state rankings except for our neighbors to the west.
Mississippians have an identical one about us.
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In California, we make fun of Texas (well, most of the South, but TX in particular.) When I lived in TX, they made fun of California. It seems that rivalry/opposition transcends physical geography. Maybe it's 'cause we're the second and third biggest states and Alaska's too far away to make fun of much.
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When I lived in TX, they made fun of Oklahoma. When I lived in OK, they made fun of Arkansas.
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Well, they made fun of OK and AR when I lived in TX, too. And Louisiana. And Missisippi.
I think maybe TX has a massive superiority complex. (Heck, I know it. My sister-in-law's blog is like a shrine to TX. It's kinda scary. I used to tell TX jokes while living in Dallas. My husband would laugh but the other people around would give me glares of death. No sense of humor about themselves...)
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OK, I don't usually do "lists", but a cheeky young Californian on my staff sent me these and I don't have anyone else to share them with. You might be a Utahn if: .You keep your clothes in 'Chester Drawers' .You don't pronounce T's in the middle of words. (Moun'n, Lay'n) .If there is a G at the end of a word you treat it as if it were silent. .You know what Fry Sauce is made of. .You go to the duck pond to feed the Seagulls. .Green Jell-o with cabbage mixed in doesn't seem strange. .You can pronounce Tooele. .The U is not just a letter - Neither is the Y. .You have actually eaten funeral potatoes. .You've gotten both heat and frost burns FROM your car's door handle; in the same month. .You are not surprised to hear words like 'Darn', 'Fetch', 'Flip','Oh, My Heck' and 'Shoot'. .Your tulips get snowed on three times after they come up and twice; more after they bloom. .The largest liquor store is the state government. .You can go skiing and play golf on the same day. .30% humidity is muggy and almost unbearable. .Somewhere in your family tree is a polygamist. .You know the difference between a 'Steak House' and a 'Stake House'. .You've broken down on the highway and somebody stops to help you. .You can see the stars at night. .You were an aunt or uncle before you were three. .Your spouse's mother was pregnant at your wedding. .Your family considers a trip to McDonalds a night out. .Your kids believe the deer hunt is a national holiday. .You consider a temple recommend a credit reference. .At least two of your salad bowls are at the homes of neighbors. .You think Jack Daniels is a country western singer. .You negotiate prices at a garage sale. .You can make Jell-O salad without the recipe. .You've heard about BYU football in a testimony meeting. .You have two gallons of ice cream in your freezer at all times. .Your father-in-law thinks Ronald Reagan was a liberal or a member of your family wrote in Lavell Edwards for president in the last election. .You think all Hotel rooms have a Book of Mormon. .You buy your wardrobe at the local grocery superstore. .Your School stay open, even if two feet of snow falls over night, but closes for the opening of hunting season. .You wear shorts and T - shirts if the temperature rises above 32 degrees .Your favorite public transportation system is a ski lift. .In-state college football rivalries are bigger than the Super Bowl. .You don't have to breathe cigarette smoke until you walk outside a building. .Your driveway has a minivan and a pickup truck. .When you buy a new vehicle, cigarette lighters are optional equipment but ski racks are standard. .More movies are filmed in your town than in Hollywood. .You make a toast with red punch at your wedding reception. .You have more raw wheat stored than some Third World countries. .Your idea of a wild party is a six pack of Pepsi and a PG-13 movie. .You and all your friends come to your mother for a haircut in her kitchen.
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Texas blows. The only thing that keeps them from floating out into the gulf is Oklahoma sucks.
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quote:Originally posted by Lostinspace: I tend to agree...growing up in Iowa it was always Missouri or Minnesota getting those types of jokes, I think it is a very common state to state joke thing...not a huge deal in my mind!
Yup - I had the same thing in Wisconsin, except it was the UP of Michigan and Illinois who got the brunt of the jokes.
Hey! Those freaking Oopers and Flatlanders have it coming!
Like the Yoopers care what us Trolls think.
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In Maine we tend to make fun of Massachusetts (Mostly the ones who come up here.) and Canada. Everyone makes fun of us.
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Here in Georgia we make fun of Alabama. But after doing this all my life, I just found out at a family reunion that my granddad was actually born in Alabama and moved to Georgia as a child. Now I've got no one to pick on!
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We (Arkies) make fun of California too. After moving here I find most of the stereotypes.. don't go far enough...
When I first moved here, there was a commercial that was supposed to tap in to California state pride (I don't think there really is any.. at least, not here in the bay area...) where a woman announced proudly "I'm a Californian." I actually winced the first time I heard it. It was a bit like someone proudly announcing that they were the communist offspring of the lizard people. (Now I know she was probably just in the Green Party.)
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quote:Originally posted by dantesparadigm: In Maine we tend to make fun of Massachusetts (Mostly the ones who come up here.) and Canada. Everyone makes fun of us.
And all of us make fun of the ones from the County.
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Hell, in New Jersey we make fun of everyone (especially our neighboring states). Though I guess it's fair because everyone makes fun of us
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In Maryland, we make fun of a lot of states, but not West Virginia. Because that would imply that West Virginia's something to joke about and it's not.
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Idaho is the natural place for Utahnn to make fun of. But Utah is definitely a unique place in many respects.
I laughed at the spouse's mother being pregnant at the wedding.
Dan Raven:
Maine making fun of Mass seems odd since it was the spawn of the latter. TBH they should just flood OK until about 5 feet of water covers the whole state and then we'd have a continental pool. It would be awesome.
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quote:I think maybe TX has a massive superiority complex.
I didn't know steers felt that way. And I met the other group that comes from TX. It's more flamboyance than superiority.
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Farmgirl: Grump. My mother was from Arkansas, and my father was from West Virginia. But fortunately I was raised a Michigander. (Lower Penninsula.)
It is a good thing that Massachusetts is a Commonwealth. Otherwise we could say it is the stupidest state in the Union, for continually re-electing Ted Kennedy and John Kerry to the U.S. Senate.
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Ohioans, at least in Southern Ohio, tend to make fun of Kentucky. Then again, in my town, where a lot of people are uneducated and living in trailers, the name of the town has been joked as being "Springtucky."
I have family in Kentucky and I still laugh my head off at those kinds of jokes.
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quote:Originally posted by dantesparadigm: In Maine we tend to make fun of Massachusetts (Mostly the ones who come up here.) and Canada. Everyone makes fun of us.
And all of us make fun of the ones from the County.
Lubec and/or Medway are the towns of choice for making fun.
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The only ones who seemed to care here in WV was the media. The people laughed at it. Here we just get it down to the county or city level though!
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quote:Originally posted by Tinros: Ohioans, at least in Southern Ohio, tend to make fun of Kentucky. Then again, in my town, where a lot of people are uneducated and living in trailers, the name of the town has been joked as being "Springtucky."
I have family in Kentucky and I still laugh my head off at those kinds of jokes.
That strikes me as funny 'cause I've heard all my life that if you're living in southern Ohio you might as well be living in Kentucky.
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I've been joking about West Virginia ever since they started broadcasting their Charlestown slot machine commercials. Wild and wonderful!
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