HelLO EVerY-BO-DY, and WELcome TO-the THRILla in CHESS-ILla, WHERE-the deFENDing CHAMPiON, ZE-RO, shall BATtle the CHALLenGER, PHIL-O-CINeMAS, for the CHAMPionSHIP BELT of-the HAT-RACK forUM. FEEL FREE to COMment ONE-and-ALL. YOUR CHEERS and JEERS are WELcome.
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Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
philocinemas:
1. e4
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
Yeah!
philo vs Zero
1. e4 e5
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Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
philo vs Zero
1. e4 e5 2. d4
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
BTW, I might play this game a little unconventionally...
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
philo vs Zero 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4
ps: unconventional is fine, lately I've been considering f5 as a response as in 1. e5 e5 2. Nf3 f5 ... it's dubious but interesting. Sometimes it's the crazy unconventional stuff that wins matches against seasoned but traditional opponents who have trouble thinking outside the lines they are most comfortable.
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
philo vs Zero 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4
Posted by Rommel Fenrir Wolf II (Member # 4199) on :
GO ZERO GO!!!
RFW2ND
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
haha thanks, wolf
philo vs Zero 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6
Posted by Robert Nowall (Member # 2764) on :
Can you feel the excitement?
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
oh definitely
Posted by Pyre Dynasty (Member # 1947) on :
My money is Philo.
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
philo vs Zero 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qe3
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
What an exciting start, chess fans! Philo came out posturing himself with a two-fisted pawn stance. Zero responded by scoring the first jab and taking out one of Philo's pawns. Philo, with equal amounts of boldness and arrogance, took Zero's pawn and began swinging his queen around like a cat of nine tails. Zero countered with his dark knight and put Philo's queen in jeopardy. Danger was to Philo's front and left, so he dodged the queen behind his pawn. What will Zero do next? Will he charge in with his knight or will he do something completely unexpected?
Posted by genevive42 (Member # 8714) on :
OOh! Aah!
Posted by Robert Nowall (Member # 2764) on :
Oh, would that I could read this modern chess notation and understand what's going on...
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
quote:My money is Philo.
I did not know philo was a form of currency, jk
Ok so who's money's on me? I did win the last game, after all.
philo vs Zero 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qe3 Be7
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Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
"What will Zero do next? Will he charge in with his knight or will he do something completely unexpected? "
he'll activte his unholy bishop, methinks
(nice commentary btw )
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
philo vs Zero 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qe3 Be7 5. e5
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
quote:Ok so who's money's on me? I did win the last game, after all.
RFW2ND appears to be howling for you - not sure about the money though.
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
I bet you didn't expect "e5". Posted by Rommel Fenrir Wolf II (Member # 4199) on :
Now look at them play chess, that’s the way you do it You play the board on hatrack TV. That anit worken that’s they way you do it Money for nothin and Chicks for free Now that aint workin thats the way you do it Lemme tell ya them guys aint dumb Maybe get a blister on your little finger Maybe get a blister on your thumb
We gotta install microwave ovens Custom kitchen deliveries We gotta move these refrigerators We gotta move these colour tvs
Money for nothin and your chicks for free Money for nothin and chicks for free
RFW2nd
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Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
It was a good move.
philo vs Zero 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qe3 Be7 5. e5 f6
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Posted by genevive42 (Member # 8714) on :
The crowd murmurs excitedly.
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
I haven't slept in over 24 hours, so I probably should wait until tomorrow to move (my chess piece that is).
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
I have thought about it, and my path seems clear (the "obvious" meaning) - I just made a pun within a pun, oh what fun. I have "clearly" not had enough sleep!
philo vs Zero 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qe3 Be7 5. e5 f6 6. exf6
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
I will resume my commentary tomorrow, after Zero's next move and about 9 hours of much needed sleep - Monday is always my due-day for paperwork, and unfortunately, I sometimes wait until the last minute to start it (my paperwork typically takes about 10 hours to complete). - But I really enjoyed watching that Yankees game.
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
philo vs Zero 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qe3 Be7 5. e5 f6 6. exf6 Nxf6
Posted by Wolfe_boy (Member # 5456) on :
Seriously, this is like the Matrix to me. All I see is blonde, brunette, redhead....
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
Dibs on the brunette
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
philo vs Zero 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qe3 Be7 5. e5 f6 6. exf6 Nxf6 7. Bb5
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
What a swaggering display of strength and strategy we have here, chess fans! As philo retreated with his queen, the champion, Zero, stepped forward with his unholy bishop, preparing to attack. Out of nowhere, philo threw a right jab with his pawn. Zero blocked with his own pawn. Philo jabbed again, taking the pawn and leaving a gaping wound on Zero’s king’s side row! Zero took out philo’s pawn with his knight and positioned himself in an offensive stance. Wait, philo is swinging wide with his bishop at Zero’s queen’s side knight…
Posted by Rommel Fenrir Wolf II (Member # 4199) on :
quote Seriously, this is like the Matrix to me. All I see is blonde, brunette, redhead.... end quote
well pull up Chess Titans from games and play human on human and move the peaces the way zero and philocinemas are then save it so every time one of them makes a move you can track it on you computer. its what i am doing.
zero i will buy you a 3 drinks of you faverit alcoholic beverage if you win.
RFW2nd
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
philo vs Zero 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qe3 Be7 5. e5 f6 6. exf6 Nxf6 7. Bb5 O-O
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
Any chance I can take back that last move?
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
Sure.
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
haha I agree that it was a good move (mine) but I've never actually heard castling referred to as "good move" before.
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
It was a good move all the same - totally messed up my offense.
Thanks for the take-back. My last two days have been spent trying to keep one of my clients from going homeless (long story for which I really can't give details). I'm also trying to watch the World Series. I think I'll wait until tomorrow before moving.
Posted by MrsBrown (Member # 5195) on :
[insert clever comment here] -- its been a long two weeks Nevertheless, all is fundamentally well.
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
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Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
Sorry to put you in check right after taking a move back, but it's the only way I see of getting my queen out of jeopardy and preventing a checkmate to my king.
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
This has been a rough two weeks - I had a client almost get his bank account sucked dry by a predatory lender (and stopped it just in time), the client's doctor thought he had a heart attack on Friday based on an EKG (so I spent the day with the client in the cardiology center of an emergency room and took him home on Saturday), and today one of my other clients ended up in jail and another had a friend die.
I'll move my next piece tomorrow - tonight I'm going to relax and watch the World Series.
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
And what a good game it was. I don't like either team. But I especially relish Yankee losses.
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
Hopefully tonight will be the same.
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
I'll move sometime tonight, I'm cooking dinner and watching my son right now...and my wife just walked in the door.
Real quick - regarding the Yankees: I'm more of a player fan than a team fan. Right now it's the Yankees, especially Jeter. Ironically, years ago I was a Phillies fan - Pete Rose. The whole thing with Pete, even though I believe he was back with Cincinatti at the time, knocked me out of the park for several years. I'm divided about the whole Rose thing. What he did was wrong, but how he's been ostracised by Cooperstown has been equally wrong - he deserves his day (there's been others that have done a lot worse in my mind). Anyway, I digress, I'm rooting for the Yankees, and I don't really care if Steinbrenner spends his unlimited cash to buy the best - they're still a great team.
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Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
philo vs Zero 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qe3 Be7 5. e5 f6 6. exf6 Nxf6 7. Bb5 O-O 8. Qb3+ d5 9. Ne2
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
You're right about that. They are a good team. And it looks like they're going to be champions.
This is amazing, chess fans – what a display of brains and brutality! As philo swung, Zero ducked the blow with a clever castle, causing philo to miss and trip. Zero, being the gentleman he is, did not take advantage of the misstep and allowed philo to stand to his feet. Philo, out of desperation, swung with his queen, but Zero blocked with his pawn. The sweat began to pour as Philo held out his knight, preparing for a quick castle if needed. Suddenly, the tide turned! Zero jabbed with his pawn, forcing philo to step back with his bishop. Zero, preparing for attack, moved his knight into an offensive stance. Philo tried to counter, but Zero was not deterred and struck a blow to philo’s bishop. Philo, momentarily caught off guard, recovered and after a moment of hesitation took out Zero’s knight with a pawn. What will happen next, chess fans? What tricks does Zero have up his sleeve? Who shall prevail?
Tune in tomorrow – same chess time, same chess channel!
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I think that was a good move. I'll have to think some.
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
Still thinking, sorry.
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
No problem - I didn't really know it was that great of a move. Now you've got me scared.
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
Well, it is a good move. But it's not a dangerous move for me. It just forces me to change tactics. But I'm not delaying the game because I'm unable to think of a response. The problem is I haven't been around a chessboard lately and I can't visualize the position without one.
Posted by snapper (Member # 7299) on :
Let me read between the lines for you there, Philo.
I've been using Deep Blue to play but a circuit fried and now I got to wait for a replacement chip from Japan to come in before I make my next move.
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
I knew IBM was lying about having dismantled it! I'm calling Kasparov right now - it's a good thing my father-in-law speaks Russian.
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
Yeah, snapper, I'm good but not that good. I'm sure if you put my moves into some kind of chess-engine/doo-hicky it would disagree with just about every move I've made. But I'll still take that as a compliment.
The problem is, given my work situation, I haven't had most of the basic luxuries like, say, a chessboard. But I get back this afternoon. So I'll move today.
Makes me wish I were one of those players who could play blindfolded and remember the entire board. As it is, when I'm looking at the board I still forget or neglect fringe pieces. Laugh, I guess that's why I never got very far in the game.
Don't ask me. I grew up with the "knight to king's bishop three" code for chess moves. Haven't been able to relate to this unless I've got a board in front of me.
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
Hey, Zero. Sorry about the delay, I've been getting paperwork done during the week in order to free up my weekend. I'm going to give you a few days to think about this - I'm off to Florida for a 5 day vacation. We got roundtrip plane tickets from Virginia to just outside of Orlando for $100 a piece - special pre-holiday offer!
I considered several more offensive moves to get out of this predicament, some of them I should have done earlier, but I decided to play it safe. Of course, the last time I did that, I lost. Happy thinking - I won't be thinking about the chess game - hopefully...
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Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
Yes O-O means short castle (kingside) and O-O-O means long castle (queenside)
Posted by Rommel Fenrir Wolf II (Member # 4199) on :
??
my chess titans wont let me do that move,
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
If you cannot castle it's because of one of these possibilities:
-There is a piece in the way. -You have already moved your king or corresponding rook. -You are currently in check. -There is a piece (usually a bishop) who can attack a square between your king and rook. (You may not castle through check.)
Posted by Rommel Fenrir Wolf II (Member # 4199) on :
ok i found the problome i moved a pice wrong and had to fix it.
i am cought up now.
RFW2nd
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
I apologize for my absence. I had some things to tidy up after getting back from vacation.
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Posted by Teraen (Member # 8612) on :
I get next game... as long as we can use the notation that makes sense.
(That would be the one where you simply write the coordinates... what's it called? e2-e4, etc...)
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
Teraen,
I know this may look intimidating on first glance, but trust me when I strongly emphatically insist that this notation makes much more sense, and is much much clearer, than the old way.
This notation is broken into two simple parts.
The prefix (a capital letter) refers to the piece being moved. And the suffix which tells what square that piece is being moved to.
Nc3 = Knight to c3.
If the prefix is missing that means a pawn moved, and not a piece.
c3 = pawn moves to c3.
If you understand that much, you're most of the way there.
Now, the "trickier" part is the little symbols meant to help clarify what's going on in the game.
There are three of these: x, +, and #
If, when you move your piece, you happen to be capturing another piece. You stuff an "x" in between the prefix and suffix.
Nxc3 = Knight moves to c3 and captures the piece there.
If you are putting the enemy king into check, you add a "+" at the very end.
Bc3+ = Bishop moves to c3 and puts the king in check.
And, if you are checkmating your opponent, you add a "#" at the end.
Rc3# = Rook moves to c3 and checkmates the King.
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So every move follows this rubric:
(Piece being moved)("x" if capturing)(End Square)("+"/"#" for check/checkmate)
The only exception is castling.
Castling is written like this:
O-O for kingside castle O-O-O for queenside.
I like to think of the O's involved as the King and Rook switching places. But this is really the only symbol set you have to just memorize.
And that's it.
That's literally all there is to it.
It may seem like a lot at first, but I guarantee that once you start using it, you'll never go back.
There's a reason why it replaced the old way. It's much much faster to read and make sense of.
In my case, I never sat down to learn it, I just started trying to use it one day and realized how intuitive it is.
[This message has been edited by Zero (edited December 17, 2009).]
Posted by Robert Nowall (Member # 2764) on :
How do you write en passant in this notation?
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
I don't think it's necessary to indicate a capture was en passant. If your pawn is landing on a square and capturing a piece, and there is no piece there, it can be assumed the capture was en passant by inference.
Posted by RillSoji (Member # 1920) on :
Do you feel that?! It's tension in the air!
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
I love how I'm reading this and yet I don't even know how to play chess for real. I just try moves till the computer lets me do something.
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
I will move very soon. My new position came with an old pile of paperwork that had not been reviewed for the last month. Can't complain much; it's from my supervisor who recommended me for the position and whose brother just died of cancer.
Hopefully, I'll be done by tomorrow.
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
Don't sweat it! Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
I'm sure you're setting me up somehow, but at this point I don't care. Today was my birthday, and as I sat on the floor readying to open a present, two of my dogs got into a "disagreement" over a chew toy and my pinky finger got in the way. It didn't get severed, but let's just say the bone was exposed. Now it's time for another Loratab (which is probably the real reason I don't care about being set up).
I know chess is a slow game but come on!
Posted by Robert Nowall (Member # 2764) on :
Maybe next time, we should make them play to a clock-timer...
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
It's my fault. I can't visualize positions, I need an old fashioned chess board set up and I haven't had one nearby while online for awhile. Out on business again. Using public internet. You know how it is.
[This message has been edited by Zero (edited January 19, 2010).]
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
Zero, don't take all the blame. I've been on a couple of vacations and have also been delayed due to work and other bizarre situations.
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
Yeah you're right, it's our game. If we don't mind being patient with each other to heck with everyone else! Posted by Rommel Fenrir Wolf II (Member # 4199) on :
zero buddy use microsoft chess titans. its how i follow the game,
Someone thinks the chess engine cheats? I can't open the article but, if it's serious, it makes me raise a skeptical eyebrow. I have no trouble beating chess titans on its hardest difficulty at least half of the time.
It can't hold a candle to real chess software like fritz and chessmaster.
Posted by Rommel Fenrir Wolf II (Member # 4199) on :
i was sugesting that you play human on human and move the peces accordandly and save after every move. its easer to visualize the game that way.
RFW2nd
Posted by Robert Nowall (Member # 2764) on :
The last time I had a pocket chess computer, I found I could beat it on the lower levels...but if I played it any higher, it took longer to make a move than Zero and philocinemas are.
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
Yeah that's because the computer is searching for all the positions it can imagine and rating them by point value. The faster a computer the faster it can do this, and the slower... you get the point.
And since subsequent positions increase exponentially....
Posted by Rommel Fenrir Wolf II (Member # 4199) on :
this could easly become the longest game of chess ever.
Hey, zero - are you traveling again?
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
I will try to move today.
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Posted by Robert Nowall (Member # 2764) on :
Don't hold it in too long.
Posted by Crank (Member # 7354) on :
I just got back from my hike around the globe, and I see this game is still going on.
This past weekend gave me a renewed interest in chess. While cleaning out my office on Saturday, I found an old chess set I forgot I had. My kids asked if I would teach them how to play, so I did. Now, they're hooked. My two sons even missed most of the US - Canada hockey game last night so they could play a few more games.
I'm sure I'll get challenged to a game when I get home tonight. I'll tell them I'm too busy watching The Thrilla in Chessilla.
I intend to move today.
Posted by philocinemas (Member # 8108) on :
The road to hell is paved with good intentions, but I'm sure you are devising something diabolical for me, so you'll probably be OK.
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
So is the path to heaven paved with bad intentions?
Oddly enough I had a dream that involved me coming to this site in two years and this game was still around. With the occassional "bump" from you, philo.
Sorry for the long waits. And sorry that I cannot move today (I know Monday's my move day) but tomorrow looks hopeful.
Sorry, I haven't had Internet for a few days. I've looked over my position, and I suspect I know our next series of moves. I've got too much going on at work right now, so I'm going to go ahead and concede. Congratulations again.
Maybe will do this again next year.
Posted by Robert Nowall (Member # 2764) on :
quote:...so I'm going to go ahead and concede...
Oh! I'm drained...
Posted by Zero (Member # 3619) on :
Yeah, I felt like I had the upperhand by this point. Very good game though.
Sorry to hear about your stress. Hopefully we can play again sometime. Whenever you want. Just say the word.
)
