I just finished reading Ender In Exile and realized that our beloved Orson Scott Card must read the posts here for some of the dialog and passages seem to have a few hints at some of the topics we have talked about here.
I found it ironic and rather funny for him to use some of the dialog, but he did it in a way that seems like it fits in the book. When I start to reread the book in a few weeks I will write down the pages so I have better information on my findings.
RFW2nd
havent read ender in exile yet... hoping to get it for christmas... stupid brothers...
cool, to think that our dialogue is in an eder book, though.
Or is OSC reading this thread right now and laughing at our ignorance?
Hm... this is a question to ponder on a week without three finals and a paper to write. Er, good-bye.
In the meantime I just assume that authors often reflect on the topics of the day when fashioning the dilemmas in their works, and since internet communities do the same in their own way, the two will coincide neatly. I'd hazard a guess that someone more widely read (and with more time!) than me could find any number of authors whose topics and/or dialogue tends to mirror what is discussed here.
As a related - barely - aside, I recently read Terry Pratchett's Thud! and found the themes he was satirising such as racism & bigotry very topical. It occurred to me this reflects very much the issues of the day.
[Edited to make it a little more readable]
[This message has been edited by BenM (edited December 01, 2008).]
That said; I absolutely loved the Alvin Maker books. They were the first one's I read by Mr. Card, and they still are my favorites of his works that I've read. I also liked his stand alone novels ENCHANTMENT and TREASURE BOX.
Maybe, why doesn’t he just come forward and say to us..
“Yea I read the topics here and used some in my book.”
Or…
“You guys are nuts especially you Rommel Fenrir Wolf II, to think I read the topics here and use them in my books.”
What ever he dose or not it can all be considered a conspiracy. Or maybe I am just insane.
I am working on three more books at the moment and I have one more to read before I can start to reread Ender In Exile. So please give me at least till end of January.
RFW2nd
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Grits For the Mill.
what are you loling about?
RFW2nd
And though I loved the early Alvin series, it began to falter halfway through, and I could barely read the last one. And his latest short story anthology isn't as good as his first either.
With that in mind, I scanned the first chapter of Ender In Exile. Lots and lots of dialog. I wanted to like it, but in the end, decided not to get it.
I guess some people are more interested in action and events happening, while others are more interested in character interaction.
[This message has been edited by Zero (edited December 04, 2008).]
I did not realize I was running him down. It was nothing about him as a person. And I love his work, just not in recent years.
This is primarily a writing group, and we give feedback to each other all the time. And as a critic of other people's published work, sometimes scathingly so, I believe he would/should understand--unless he be experiencing George Lucas Syndrome.
I think artists need honest feedback from their fanbase, rather than hear that they can do no wrong. Otherwise, they might become victims of their own success.
Both. Inability to listen to feedback led to a further decrease in quality. Of course, if any of his crew had the guts to tell him that Jar Jar & robots that say, "Roger, Roger. Does not compute!" was a bad idea, he didn't listen. He did tone that down in Episode II and III, but then, of course, there were other problems.
debhoag,
Anyone who produces anything for public consumption should expect fair and perhaps unfair assessments of their works.
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I dont get it.what are you loling about?
RFW2nd
Sorry, buddy. The correct title of the forum is "G R I S T for the mill". You flipped the s and the t to get "grits", which was quite funny, as grits are, in fact, milled.
I get it.
I cant help it I am dyslectic. But it is ok.
RFW2nd