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JBSkaggs
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Hi all and thank you for the comments rec'd earlier. I have rewritten the opening and gone to where she got the puppy and see if that opens better (maybe not as hard of a hook)

Looking for comments and critiques for the whole piece on this final post for this story.

JB Skaggs

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Julie Wells sat in the offices of Sunny Companions holding a sales flyer. She looked out a broad window overlooking a playground were dogs, puppies, and children frolicked. She imagined watching her own son playing with those kids. Her little Bobby, dead now these eight months. He should have been out there. He should have been playing on the slides-.

“Mrs. Wells?” A thin, well dressed, dark-haired woman entered the office.

Julie rose from her chair and extended her hand. “Yes I’m Julie Wells.”

The other woman took it. “Please have a seat. I am Margie Burns.”

Julie sat back down in the visitor chair, as Margie sat behind her desk. Margie opened up a manila folder on her desk. She smiled and folded her hands together.

“So tell me Mrs. Wells, what brings you here.”

“Well I am little embarrassed, but I read your flyer and…and though my friends say it’s a scam. I want to see for myself if what you said is true.”


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Beth
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I think that's a decent beginning, worth polishing up and making it flow a little better.
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I think I'm more hooked by this version. It raises questions. That's really all it takes to hook me.

The only thing that bothered me was the sentence "Her little Bobby, dead now these eight months."
I don't know exactly why it bothers me. Maybe it's because I have a friend who's daughter died last year. She never refers to her as "dead". She always says passed on, or passed away, on something else. It's still too raw of a feeling for her at the moment.
Maybe I'm just sensitive to it.
But, if you remove that sentence, and leave the rest, it hints at it and dangles another intriquing question in my head. And it is not really a cheat because her thought is interupted before she completes it.


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I'll read it also, if you need a reader.
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Hi.
I'm a complete starter at this, so dont have much in the way of criticism over your style or anything like that.

I think one of your sentences is a bit wrong though. I think you need to replace the word 'where' with 'were' when you're talking about dogs and children frolicking in the playground. Sorry, I should have copied the text before doing a reply so I could let you know exactly where I mean. It took me a few tries to read that sentence & it's just because of a minor error.

Cheers.


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Thanks Benskia. I noticed that noe that you point it out. The problem with spellcheckers is they don't check for the correct word but rather what you have is spelled correctly.


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First, a note on critiqueing. Beth, if I were getting your critique, I wouldn't know what you meant.

My own ideas: Strike the first sentence. I don't care that she's got a flyer in her hand; it bored me; and you're about to change the subject to the loss of the child. That's the hook (and a pretty good one).


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Beth
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What don't you understand? It's a good beginning, but some of the sentences need polishing - using the right words, adding appropriate punctuation, smoothing them out so they sound less clunky. The previous beginnings were weak, I thought, and had larger problems than could be fixed by tweaking the sentences. This doesn't have those problems. Sorry if that wasn't clear, although I'm not sure why you're asking for clarification.
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Before reading the other comments, let me just say that this is a pretty doggone good opening. Already we have a character who is motivated by grief looking into something that is described as a scam by a corporation called Sunny Companions.

Now, let me get nitpicky to see if we can turn this pretty doggone good opening into a GREAT opening.

"Julie Wells sat in the offices of Sunny Companions holding a sales flyer."

What did the sales flyer say? I find myself wanting to know this right away, both because it is in character and because it is crutial to the story, as I can see from a little ways down.

"She looked out a broad window overlooking a playground were dogs, puppies, and children frolicked."

dogs and puppies seemed repetitive.

"She imagined watching her own son playing with those kids. Her little Bobby, dead now these eight months. He should have been out there. He should have been playing on the slides-."

very nice

"“Mrs. Wells?” A thin, well dressed, dark-haired woman entered the office."

whew...I feel an onslaught of adjectives! I suggest picking the most important feature or two.

"The other woman took it. “Please have a seat. I am Margie Burns.”"

This confused me. At this poitn I imagined that Julie was in her own office and someone had come in to see her, I don't know why. I think it went back to the first line..."offices." Maybe if you described her in a waiting room or something this would all be a lot clearer.

"“Well I am little embarrassed, but I read your flyer and…and though my friends say it’s a scam. I want to see for myself if what you said is true.”"

This was the real hook for me, and it also is what told me that you probably should have mentioned the contents of the flyer already. As well-done as her grief and motivation were, it seems as if this goes to the meat of the story.


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A few notes after readint the other critiques:

benskia: If you hit reply and scroll down, you will see that the entire thread appears in its own window at the bottom. This way, you can find anything you want to quote and comment on in the future.

Beth: I had no problem with your short critique. Especially in an ongoing series of attempts, sometimes the answer simply is something like, "This is better, put some polish on it." If you go into too much detail on something like that you can often find yourself rewriting the psasage rather than critiquing, and that is truly unacceptable.

wbriggs: I kind of agree with you about that first sentence. After reading it again and looking at my own thoughts, I wonder if simply not mentioning the flyer would keep me from needing to know its contents right away. Then the dead child becomes the hook, the motivation, and the product that Sunny Corporations is selling can come later. I think we do still need to know where she is, though, when she looks out at the playground.

Along with that, though, comes the question of implicit promise. If this story is about a grieving mother trying to find some way through her son's death, then the second paragraph is the right start. On the other hand, if that is simply a motivating factor and this story is about whatever she's about to buy into that might be a scam, then that paragraph needs to come a little later as I first suggested and we need to see the flyer. I imagine whatever's on it will be a pretty good hook too.

I seem to have given up $.04. I think I'll shuyt up now.


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Acck! I agree the flyer needs to be shown. Unfortunately I have no idea what to actually put on it What could a flyer say that would hook a grieving mother to risk being scammed? So I will brainstorm on it.

Its like that book the Necronomicron from Robert Howard and Hp Lovecraft. Everybody wanted to know what it said so finally a fan of their fiction wrote one.


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Hi dood.
Is the story going to be based on the scam that taked place?
Or is this a side plot whilst you stick in some character info?

What kind of story is it?
The flyer could say a lot of intriguing things for all i know at the moment....

'Half price sale on robot children'
'Bring your missed love ones back to life'
'Ouija siance - Guaranteed results'

The last one could open up some really interesting character traits. Superstition, believer in the occult etc etc

Or are you thinking of something a little more of this world?


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Hi Benskia,

---------- Spoiler alert------------
this story is about a woman who adopts or buys a were-dog puppy. But no one tells her it can turn into a boy. And the were-dog keeps it's secret from her. So the story is about her thinking she is being haunted by her dead son when in reality it's the little puppy just trying to love her with out being rejected for being a monster. It's more of a family love story.
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So basically the flyer would be needed to written in such a way that it would actually hook a grieving woman into spending a $100,000 on a puppy.

Would you like to read the whole thing?

JB Skaggs


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Ummmmmm....I can't see anyone paying 100,000 dollars for a dog no matter how much they're grieving. Let's face it, you can get a perfectly good dog/puppy just about free from any local humane society. Or if you want a pure bred you're talkinga few hundred, not a few hundred thousand! As long as she thinks it's just a dog, it isn't going to happen. But if she knows it's more than a dog it disrupts the rest of your plot.
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I have to agree with Christine. I'm pretty insane about dogs myself (I've got four) but there is no dog out there that I'd pay $100K for no matter what my justification.
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Hey JB. Is it finished?
I'll read it. Brilliant.
How long is it, it might take me a while to get through. But i'll definately take a read and let you know what I think.

Thanks for the offer.


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Actually I have known people to spend over million for an animal. Especially in horses and cattle.

I personally have seen Dobermans that sold for 70,000.00 and I have seen a cat (a jaguarundi) go for 35,000.

People do spend ridiculous amounts of money for things if they want to. But I agree this is a hard sell.


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Wow!

Ok, let me take a step back. WHO are these people who spend more than my yearly salary on animals?

There's your clue. Is what's-her-name rich? Is she independently wealthy and eccentric? If you characterize her well enough we may just buy it, but it's got to be more than mourning. She has to ahve the money (and I mean a lot of money) and be characterized as the type of person who would make an impulse buy. From that viewpoing, you don't want her talking about her friends telling her it's a scam. She's the kind of person who, on a whim, would buy a time share she'll never use, a private jet because she can, and a dog that costs 100 Gs because a flyer told them these puppies were taylored to each owner's needs and could cure any ills.

On a side note: farm animals are different, I think, since they are bought and sold for profit motives. The economy of a farm animal is going to be significantly different from that of a house pet.

Also, I can see a jaguarundi going for 35k; they aren't really traditional house cats per se. The only one I've ever seen was at the Memphis zoo and it's a different species in the same family.

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You been to the Memphis Zoo! I love that place and actually plan to go this weekend if the weather allows.

Dont tell me you live near Memphis? And that maybe you have a writer's group meeting for BBQ and discussion every thursday?

Nah.. that would just be too cool to happen.


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Good lord, no. I wasn't actually all that impressed with Memphis. (Although apparently that's not going to get me on your good side to say so. ) It's got more to do with the reason I was there in the first place than the city...During college I was engaged to a guy whose parents lived in Memphis. We went there a few times and, among other things, visited the zoo. Then he jilted me and now I don't like Memphis all that much.
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What if they did not have to pay for it up-front. Like a trial period. After the trial period, if they want to keep them, then they have to pay.
or
What if the agency does not require any money at all? What if they just exist to "place" werepups with good homes.

It also occurred to me just now that if the "werepups" are part human, it is kind of immoral that other people are selling them and making money off them.


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When has morality ever stopped commerce before?

yes there is possibly immorality involved. Especially the puppy's sold to the military and police units worldwide. Maybe another stry to deal with that issue. But this story is to short to deal with it.


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I don't like Memphis either, and I keep moving away but somehow end up back here. Though the food is good.


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I would read this. I was hooked on the POV character's grief, and the synopsis hooks me further.
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An intriguing opening—the reader wonders what Ms. Burns is selling. Perhaps you might consider adding some brief, telling detail about the office or Ms. Burns to enhance mood or foreshadow. Perhaps you might succinctly emphasize the office looked the same as any other (hinting through understatement that they sell something extraordinary, like resurrection services) or draw attention to the one thing that is different from other offices (a large obsidian sphere on the corner of the desk).

Stylistically, you might be able to remove your fourth sentence (“Her little Bobby…”) without affecting the content or tone. Also, the word “frolicked” often has a humorous connotation; you might consider an alternate adjective.

Good luck!


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Well, I can't see myself spending $100k for any animal but you're right - there are people out there who would so as long as you establish that she has the funds to do this and that to her, it is worth the money, then I think the readers will believe it.
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I like the sound of this, an interesting concept.

If you're looking for ideas for the flyer how about:

Sunny Companions

Pet Therapy has been used for years to help treat depression and grief; and to treat developmental disorders such as autism.

But what if you could design a pet to perfectly fit your life?

At Sunny Companions we strive to bring you the very best Pet Therapy has to offer. All our pets are pure bred animals and are genetically engineered to fill your specific needs.

Call today to book your free consultation.
1-888-555-1234

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Oh, I like the idea of the question of the morality of buying and selling creatures that are at least somewhat human, but that is a huge topic for a story of this length. It might an interesting sequel though....
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Thanks a bunch Robyn for the flyer!

Yes Ta. This could easily lead into a series, or a bbook like Mars Chronicles.

JB Skaggs


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i didn't get a chance to read the original version of this, but i really like what you have up now. it's a very intriguing idea and i would definetely want to read more
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Thanks. But I am finished with this story now. It will be in the June issue of my magazine. Thank you everyone for your comments and help.
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quote:
Julie Wells sat in the offices of Sunny Companions holding a sales flyer. She looked out a broad window overlooking a playground were dogs, puppies, and children frolicked. She imagined watching her own son playing with those kids. Her little Bobby, dead now these eight months. He should have been out there. He should have been playing on the slides-.

I don't know if you need any of this, just having a dead son isn't enough to garner sympathy or interest, unless he died as a result of one of her actions: "She imagined watching her son playing with those kids. Her little Bobby. Eight months had passed since Julie killed him. He should have been out there. He should have been playing on the slides."

Then you don't have to touch, just leave it hanging over the story as Julie goes through the interview. Otherwise, since Bobby's death isn't related to a decision of hers, the entire paragraph is limp.

The rest is interesting and clear.

[This message has been edited by Tanglier (edited March 12, 2005).]


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As an aside to the puppy/cost question, I used to be Marketing manager for a family-owned chain of pet stores. They have SPIDERS that cost thousands of dollars (ie, the Goliath Spider that can catches and eats birds). While most puppies run in the $500-$5000 price range, I imagine a unique breed could well command $100K.

The one question *I* would have is, given all the "assumed conventional wisdom" about were-animals, it goes against the norm to actually WANT one around. I would only hope you answer that question in your story... ie, this particular were-puppy doesn't grow up to have fangs and chase you around during the full of the moon to turn you into a miserable undead were-wolf once a month. I can't imagine paying $100k for THAT privilege.

And regarding our poor dead child... sometimes saying "He's been gone for the past eight months" is a more typical way to refer to a dead person... although there is always the confusion that needs to be resolved on behalf of the reader. Did he die? Was he kidnapped? Did he get lost?

I'd like to see your rewrite!


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