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Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sean Monahan:
Zero results? It had exactly the correct results. A legitimate thread drift was broken off into its own thread, those involved continued the discussion, and those disinterested were able to ignore it.

Not really tho, both Ron and Elison kept posting HERE, and the little convo that actually happened in the new thread was basically me and Elison goofing off and him telling me how I was wrong (which I'm cool w/, I bow to his superior knowledge, as I am not the expert he is on the subject).

quote:
...bickering between some member of Hatrack and you about how you're being treated.
Yeah, I've been a bit over self protective in the past, but I didn't complain about that recently, not sure where you got that...

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As ridiculous as Ron's claims are, and as absurd as his comments and points and references can be, he stays on topic. Whatever the thread title is, that's what he's talking about...
Except...no, not actually.

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Why do these ones have to constantly get shit-up?
It takes two to tango, and all my "dance partners", yourself included, shat up that thread EXACTLY as much as I did.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Arguably more!
 
Posted by Elison R. Salazar (Member # 8565) on :
 
Why do you keep doing this to yourself? Why do you choose every hill to die on?
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Gotta have a hobby
 
Posted by lobo (Member # 1761) on :
 
So, I haven't been on here for quite some time. It seems that every thread is being hijacked... I will check back again in a few years.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Heisenberg:
Who are you arguing with here, Stone Wolf? Because I see exactly zero people here saying that the man should get to choose whether the woman has an abortion.

What I am seeing are people saying that the man has a right to be upset over that decision, and his feelings shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.

I'm not arguing, I'm stating my opinion, but either way, how is it any of your concern?
 
Posted by Heisenberg (Member # 13004) on :
 
Debating, arguing, whatever you want to call it. You're throwing out statements in a thread that is supposed to be discussing a topic, and those statements have little to nothing with what people have actually said.

Also, it's my concern because you posted on a public message board in a topic made to encourage conversation.

As a final note, dude. Do you really want to get pissy with me? Again? Why not just acknowledge that, okay, no one has really said what you're making statements against, you just wanted to state an opinion and got caught up. I've made the same mistake before; I've had to walk back my statements; it sucks but I looked the better for it afterward.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
I'm sticking with "mind your own business"

Your opinions are unwelcome, in general, and SPECIFICALLY about me...they are more than unwelcome, so just STFU already
 
Posted by Heisenberg (Member # 13004) on :
 
Hey dawg if you don't want people commenting on your statements and opinions, feel free to start your own blog where you can moderate and block commentators. Otherwise, deal with the fact that I'm on this board and can respond to what you say as I wish.

Congrats in starting this thread to curtail you shitting up otherwise quality threads, though.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Bla bla bla, I'm not saying you can't post, just let's not pretend that your "comments" are anything other than your feeble attempt to start shjt with me.

Anyway, feel free to ingest a cloth container of male reproductive organs
 
Posted by Heisenberg (Member # 13004) on :
 
My comments show disdain for what you say. Most of the time. But it's got nothing to do with who you are, but what you say.

I guess in your mind "Stfu" doesn't equate to telling me I can't post. Okay, dude. I wish I could possess that kind of intellectual separation.

Also, do you really think you're better off for telling me to suck balls or dick behind some pussy attempt to clothe your language behind the TOS?

[ December 12, 2016, 09:32 AM: Message edited by: JanitorBlade ]
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Judge me by my enemies.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
No one flag twitles for cussing please, I started it
 
Posted by Heisenberg (Member # 13004) on :
 
Tittles. As in, Shigs and Tittles. If you're getting it wrong on purpose to troll me, good on ya.

Also, you don't have enemies. Nobody cares enough. The best you can hope for is to continually post innane bullshit that people like me respond to.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
I'm glad to see this thread lives up to billing AND declutters the rest of the board [Party]
 
Posted by JanitorBlade (Member # 12343) on :
 
Pretty close to locking this thread.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Sorry, I don't mean to make extra work for you BB.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
instead of locking it can you just move stone wolf arguments out of other threads to here
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
SW, you continue to be very bad at this.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Yup... sometimes it takes me awhile to catch on

[ December 12, 2016, 05:34 PM: Message edited by: Stone_Wolf_ ]
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
instead of locking it can you just move stone wolf arguments out of other threads to here

This is a great idea...I can help w that
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_:
Judge me by my enemies.

does a tin can imagine itself to be the ancient nemesis of sporting rifles? you don't have enemies. you have people on the internet vocally annoyed by your bad posting habits
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
I admit I have my moments, but your characterization is as unkind as it is untrue...we have the same exact hobby, (arguing w idiots online)

You keep condemning me and engaging in the same damn arguments for years.

I'll be impressed by your scorn when it isn't dripping w hypocrisy and you just follow your own damn advice and ignore me.

Until then, you are another monkey at the circus, just like me brother!
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
quote:
I'll be impressed by your scorn when it isn't dripping w hypocrisy and you just follow your own damn advice and ignore me.
but that's not my advice, so
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
To me...your advice is always stop SW, don't moderate bla...it all boils down to shut up...

something you preached at me back when I was asking someone to leave me alone was, "it's not reasonable to ask another poster to stop commenting, the mature thing to do is simply ignore them" me paraphrasing samp circa 2012

Heed your own advice and stop trying to moderate me.

And further, accept full accountability for contributing to this fine thread
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
wait, which was my advice then? was it 'ignore stone wolf' or 'moderate stone wolf'

you have to at least have a straight story about my position before you try to tell me what my position is. i cannot get tripped up on phantom positional indeterminacy
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
also if you think my position is 'don't moderate' you just literally have no idea what my position is at all. you could not have picked a more incorrect summation of my attitudes on forums.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
I'm clear on your message even if you haven't been paying attention to your own words
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Your message: SW is a bad poster and all should chime in to reinforce this message.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
And I want one thing to be clear, I may get confused by context and/or just be hopelessly wrong at times, but Skittles is no sporting rifle
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_:
Your message: SW is a bad poster and all should chime in to reinforce this message.

a community should do what it can do to prevent bad posting, or where that is not possible, extol against the messages contained in bad posting, yes.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
You contribute to the bad posts in your efforts to thwart me...thus the hypocrisy
 
Posted by Emreecheek (Member # 12082) on :
 
*Eats popcorn and continues tracking posters' use of the imperative mood.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
See samp...not SW's imperative mood... posters... meaning you too bro
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
what
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
so now we're up to that you were claiming that i was anti-moderation and now you're trying an equivalence argument, as though you would be proud to have been revealed to be a pig that successfully dragged everyone else into the mud

alright so i guess this is pointless but at least now i know
 
Posted by Emreecheek (Member # 12082) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_:
See samp...not SW's imperative mood... posters... meaning you too bro

Um...
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_:
quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
quote:
Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_:
Long long story short, men, if you care about potential offspring, use your mouth BEFORE your penis.

Also good advice for coitus

You say this like it solves everything.

What if you have the conversation and she...completely disregards it when the event actually happens and does something on her own? Your advice might weed out potential partners who don't at least pay lip service to an agreement, but doesn't really protect a man beyond that.

Either,
A) She lied about who she is, and is likely to not stop lying, therefore, you won't hear about it, til you find she's a giant liar and leaver her anyway.
B) She tells you that she lied, and you leave her.
C) (And this one seems more likely) She was telling the truth the WHOLE TIME.

But, yes, you are entirely without power if she decides to change her mind. Which is exactly why I am of the opinion of where a man's place is in abortion...


 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
so now we're up to that you were claiming that i was anti-moderation and now you're trying an equivalence argument, as though you would be proud to have been revealed to be a pig that successfully dragged everyone else into the mud

alright so i guess this is pointless but at least now i know

The only thing I claim is your asking me to stop asking others to be kind to crackpots is hypocrisy.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
never mind, sw
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
I'm glad you'll stop, but am disappointed that you never acknowledged the concept I was pushing.
 
Posted by Heisenberg (Member # 13004) on :
 
Literal lol
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Man I need a new hobby
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Heisenberg:
Literal lol


 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
I hate you guys so much
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Don't be silly.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
If I could pull that off I would have abandoned this place years back, but like a abused wife, I just keep coming back...And I hate you guys SO MUCH [Wall Bash] [Mad] [Cry]

[ December 29, 2016, 03:53 PM: Message edited by: Stone_Wolf_ ]
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
I do not hate Hatrack generically, but individuals for specific reasons...If you don't kno who or why than it's either not you or you haven't been paying attention
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
quote:
Originally posted by Dogbreath:
the jedis used dark energy to build the pyramids

http://i.imgur.com/xgz9nkR.gif
I'd love to abandon this place and all you horrible people (you know who you are), but I doubt I have the warewithall to do so, so I guess I'll just have to delete my account.

Bye Hatrack,

I hate you SO much
 
Posted by Dogbreath (Member # 11879) on :
 
...are you all right?
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Basically...no
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
Stone Wolf, immediately cease sending me private messages and do not attempt to contact me again. You have sent a private communication to me that constitutes harassment containing a personal threat/wish of harm, stating that if you had the means, you would harm me.

On account of this I will be contacting the site's moderation team to request that you be banned as soon as possible, with an expectation that any attempt you make to be re-registered will be acted upon by immediate future bans. Regardless as to whether or not the moderation team opts to provide this request, do not respond to me or my posts.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
Just so that it's clear to others, I intend to effectively block stone wolf from visibility within a day or two, depending on how easy it is to have someone script for me. Whether or not he is still around on this account. I will not have any posts directed at him at all.
 
Posted by Dogbreath (Member # 11879) on :
 
Stone_Wolf_ if you are battling with depression or maybe have thoughts of doing more than just deleting your account on Monday please, please consider talking to a mental health professional or at least talking to someone. I know it can be hard to find someone to talk to, and I would offer my number personally except for the various threats of physical violence you've made over the years have made me decide that would not be a safe thing for me to do, but please try to reach out to someone you can trust and talk this through. I know you hate people here and wish us harm, but I'm pretty confident in saying that noone here hates you or want to see you hurt.
 
Posted by Dogbreath (Member # 11879) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
Stone Wolf, immediately cease sending me private messages and do not attempt to contact me again. You have sent a private communication to me that constitutes harassment containing a personal threat/wish of harm, stating that if you had the means, you would harm me.

FWIW, you're not the first person here he's contacted like that or threatened/wished physical harm upon. (I think the worst was when he told Rakeesh he wished someone had murdered him as a child), and BlackBlade has always declined to ban him for it in the past. We'll see what happens this time though. *shrugs*
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dogbreath:
Stone_Wolf_ if you are battling with depression or maybe have thoughts of doing more than just deleting your account on Monday please, please consider talking to a mental health professional or at least talking to someone. I know it can be hard to find someone to talk to, and I would offer my number personally except for the various threats of physical violence you've made over the years have made me decide that would not be a safe thing for me to do, but please try to reach out to someone you can trust and talk this through. I know you hate people here and wish us harm, but I'm pretty confident in saying that noone here hates you or want to see you hurt.

Thanks.

I'm the glue that keeps my family together, and would NEVER harm myself or other human IRL, despite offering up reverse prayers from time to time.

I've been collecting weapons for nearly three decades and in that time I have caused zero harm.

I do appreciate your concern.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dogbreath:
quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
Stone Wolf, immediately cease sending me private messages and do not attempt to contact me again. You have sent a private communication to me that constitutes harassment containing a personal threat/wish of harm, stating that if you had the means, you would harm me.

FWIW, you're not the first person here he's contacted like that or threatened/wished physical harm upon. (I think the worst was when he told Rakeesh he wished someone had murdered him as a child), and BlackBlade has always declined to ban him for it in the past. We'll see what happens this time though. *shrugs*
I work for an organization that is involved in outreach, charity, and legal protection for marginalized and targeted groups so we have to take threats of harm in directed online harassment, potential doxxing, and anything similar very seriously now. I have to report and log stuff like this and forward all relevant information about the individuals identified as making a threat. I have already had my boss review the message and categorize it as a statement that the individual in question would harm me if they were able. It is pretty up there in terms of being a not good statement.

I have sent off a detailed request including a recommendation for handling violent threats with appropriate regard to an announcement of personal mental distress, as well as depression crisis support resources, but I will not be involved personally in any way with the individual in question or any support plan and will follow the standard no contact policy.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
And within those three decades I was physically bullied, and if I didn't go nuts on the guys who beat the shit out of me as minor (low legal reprecussions) I'm hardly going to spend time and money I do not have on a private detective to try and hunt down some well meaning posters who said some crap that upset me. Honestly, those that fear physical attack from me here are acting in very silly fashion.

But after Monday it will all be moot anyway...Like it never happened! Except for Rakeesh's prized transcripts [ROFL]
 
Posted by Dogbreath (Member # 11879) on :
 
Sam: To clarify I wasn't trying to downplay what he said to you. I recommended similar actions a few months ago when RotR's wife was threatened by coworkers and honestly wish I had done something similar a few years back when I was the one SW was harassing and threatening to attack.

In the intervening time I've become more aware of people like SW snapping and turning threats and fantasies like this into physical harm, and I'm honestly kind of amazed both at myself and the moderation here that we've sort of collectively tolerated it and accepted this behavior for years as at least sort of normal when it is clearly pretty far beyond the pale. I'm just saying that I don't think you'll see the response you need from BB and am glad you have taken the additional actions you have - it's something I should have done but didn't.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dogbreath:
Sam: To clarify I wasn't trying to downplay what he said to you. I recommended similar actions a few months ago when RotR's wife was threatened by coworkers and honestly wish I had done something similar a few years back when I was the one SW was harassing and threatening to attack.

In the intervening time I've become more aware of people like SW snapping and turning threats and fantasies like this into physical harm, and I'm honestly kind of amazed both at myself and the moderation here that we've sort of collectively tolerated it and accepted this behavior for years as at least sort of normal when it is clearly pretty far beyond the pale. I'm just saying that I don't think you'll see the response you need from BB and am glad you have taken the additional actions you have - it's something I should have done but didn't.

I don't feel that you've downplayed it at all tbh so no worries. We similarly have plenty of history of someone's talk that they would 'never actually act on' to recall when we talk about our harassment and threats policy and why it's exactly what it is. If anything it helps to have an additional account of a pattern of threatening behavior to work with.

The moderation response to this event will effectively determine what I have to do or can do.
 
Posted by JanitorBlade (Member # 12343) on :
 
Stone_Wolf: For the time being you will cease posting on Hatrack. Please check your email for a PM from me.
 
Posted by JanitorBlade (Member # 12343) on :
 
I'm locking this thread for now so that Stone_Wolf can focus on getting the help he clearly needs, without us talking about what just happened and making him want to respond.

I'd appreciate it if we left on on discussing Stone_Wolf for the next couple of days while I sort this out.
 


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