Are you familiar with the Columbia University "mattress girl" story? This girl started carrying around a mattress as an "art project" about her rape. She had accused an individual named Paul Nungresser, a German national, of raping her. Turns out that this girl was pretty desperate for this dude's physical affection:
The univeristy's Rape tribunal, and the police, ended up dismissing the girl's claims. That's when she started carrying around a mattress as an "art project." This girl even had the junior senator from New York defending her publicly.
This girl offered base acts in the hope of getting a relationship. When Mr. Nungresser (being a young man) took advantage of what was offered to him, but didn't offer her a relationship, this girl ended up accusing him of rape.
Now Mr. Nungresser is suing Columbia University for harrasement.
Hey, it's Clive! Hi, Clive! Go away!
Posted by Men's Rights Forever (Member # 13269) on :
I admire Orson Scott Card's fearlessness, though, admittedly, he was certainly wrong about that NeoCon stuff (remember when he suggested that the USA invade Syria and all sorts of other crazy things?) However, I believe that Mr. Card is essentially correct on cultural issues, and though he has been defeated on the issue of gay marriage, he can still stick it to his enemies by taking a stand against this modern "rape" hysteria.
Mr. Card, society awaits your cogent and incisive commentary!!!!!
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
I look forward to the measured and balanced commentary from Men's Rights Forever.
Posted by Dogbreath (Member # 11879) on :
It's been a while, Clive. After you didn't show up for the last misogynistic thread here, I was starting to get worried.
Also,
I am posting in this high quality thread!
Posted by Men's Rights Forever (Member # 13269) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dogbreath: It's been a while, Clive. After you didn't show up for the last misogynistic thread here, I was starting to get worried.
I don't know who "Clive" is.
Also: Link?
Posted by Dogbreath (Member # 11879) on :
quote:Originally posted by Men's Rights Forever: I don't know who "Clive" is.
Nah, bra, you drained that well dry like three iterations ago. You can even skip the 'Who's Clive? And link?' bits too, they're basically considered as read into the record whenever you pop back up.
Anyway, given how emphatically and how often Card has made his contempt for liberals known in the last five years, and since it doesn't actually cost him in safety or wealth to continue to elicit that antagonism, nah, on this issue he isn't brave at all.
That's not to say I believe the opposite-simply that when someone expresses an antagonistic opinion to people who already know he despises them, that's not an example of bravery. Where's the risk?
Posted by Men's Rights Forever (Member # 13269) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rakeesh: Nah, bra, you drained that well dry like three iterations ago. You can even skip the 'Who's Clive? And link?' bits too, they're basically considered as read into the record whenever you pop back up.
Anyway, given how emphatically and how often Card has made his contempt for liberals known in the last five years, and since it doesn't actually cost him in safety or wealth to continue to elicit that antagonism, nah, on this issue he isn't brave at all.
That's not to say I believe the opposite-simply that when someone expresses an antagonistic opinion to people who already know he despises them, that's not an example of bravery. Where's the risk?
I disagree. He bares a lot of cost in social standing to keep objecting to the liberal triumph of homosexual marriage. The man has one one life, and he cannot keep fiercely fightging the same battle forever.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
"For twelve years, I have been hunting for a way to unintentionally destroy the codebase," said John Galt, with his stunning jaw and utter moral perfection. A nearby socialist fainted from his own weak constitution and ethical degeneracy.
[ April 27, 2015, 01:25 PM: Message edited by: Samprimary ]
Posted by Men's Rights Forever (Member # 13269) on :
This is the girl. The same girl who begged Paul Nungresser to have anal sex with her. Then she accused him of rape.
This is the maddness that feminists are abetting and encouraging.
Posted by Men's Rights Forever (Member # 13269) on :
The purpose of Sampinary's obnoxious post is to derail the thread.
Social justice Warrior Facsists cannot abide repeated bad narrative outcomes. Nearly every public rape accusation from the past several years has been proven to be false -- from the Duke Lacross team case, to the "mattress girl" case, and to outrageously false UVA case publisized by Rolling Stone magainze.
Mr. Card, society and civilization await your column on this topic.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
did you move to india yet
did you manage that whole surrogate insemination for hire thing or are you still childless or what's the deal with your life
when did you start doing alts in stereo
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
is the purpose of this alt to try to do cover fire for other contingent operations
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:Originally posted by Samprimary: is the purpose of this alt to try to do cover fire for other contingent operations
it is isn't it
i am so smart!!!
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
I almost started to respond with something reasonable that came from, like, five minutes of googling the issue. Then I decided to lay down with a cool cloth on my head rather than lay out any more troll kibble.
What happened to talking about our favorite cookies? There's a Sprouts Market near us, we don't tend to bother with it much, but their bakery's two-bite brownies and two-bite orange/cranberry scones are pretty much manna from heaven.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
cookies Are Pretty radddddddddddddd
Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
The Fresh Market near my house makes brownie crisps which are like brownie batter cookies. They combine the best of cookies and brownies and are the best thing in the world and am not supposed to eat them but I'm going to go get a box now.
Thanks a lot, Clive.
Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
quote:This girl offered base acts in the hope of getting a relationship. When Mr. Nungresser (being a young man) took advantage of what was offered to him, but didn't offer her a relationship, this girl ended up accusing him of rape.
How do you know this?
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
I'm far more curious about how he knows this:
quote:Nearly every public rape accusation from the past several years has been proven to be false
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
because he just understands how females work mannnnnnnn. he just knowsssssss
Posted by theamazeeaz (Member # 6970) on :
Holy character limit, Samp!
Posted by Wingracer (Member # 12293) on :
quote:Originally posted by Samprimary: did you move to india yet
did you manage that whole surrogate insemination for hire thing or are you still childless or what's the deal with your life
when did you start doing alts in stereo
If he is doing alts in stereo it would appear he moved to Indiana instead of India.
Kinda the same thing I guess
And yeah, why not just post the whole stinking book next time. I have still never read the whole thing so it would give me something to do.
Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
quote:Originally posted by Strider: I'm far more curious about how he knows this:
quote:Nearly every public rape accusation from the past several years has been proven to be false
That does also call for an explanation!
Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
Who knew there was essentially no word count limit on posts? Huh.
I don't really think it's a valuable service to make the thread unreadable, though.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Not only is it not a valuable service, based on my understanding of the way this codebase works, it runs a very real chance of killing the forum.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
Well, then I retract. But it was a high quality post. You can't argue with that.
Posted by theamazeeaz (Member # 6970) on :
It might be an interesting and relevant commentary, but I would probably appreciate it a lot more if I actually read Atlas Shrugged. The Fountainhead was enough (though I will admit, Ayn Rand makes a pretty good point about the nature of heroes, though she is encouraging a very very pathological mentality).
I have to say, my RSI-friendly keyboard puts the "home", "end", "page up" and "page down" keys in reach of my right pinkie. It's the best thing that ever happened to web browsing.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
if you wanna read atlas shrugged i can sum it up for you
Posted by JanitorBlade (Member # 12343) on :
quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: Well, then I retract. But it was a high quality post. You can't argue with that.
I cannot.
Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
quote:Originally posted by Samprimary: if you wanna read atlas shrugged i can sum it up for you
Well if you're offering...
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
[ April 27, 2015, 06:49 PM: Message edited by: Jon Boy ]
Posted by Dogbreath (Member # 11879) on :
All I get when I click it is a video of the looting in Baltimore.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Whoops. It's fixed now.
Posted by Wingracer (Member # 12293) on :
quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: Well, then I retract. But it was a high quality post. You can't argue with that.
It was indeed and despite the huge annoyance of it, I was also laughing hysterically over it this morning. Perhaps even funnier, I am in the middle of a re-read of Cryptonomicon and before I saw your post, I was considering posting one of the long rants from it in here but I figured that would probably be some kind of copyright violation. Posted by Dogbreath (Member # 11879) on :
That being said, it would be nice to talk about some of the real and actual problems men face in our society (whether that be child support, or (the relatively rare but still problematic) unfair way male domestic abuse or rape victims are treated, etc) without being conflated with or drowned out by misogynists. But like seriously, my experiences and the way I'm treated by society as a straight white man is so relatively awesome and easy - like literally almost everything is *designed* for my comfort and success - that it would feel outrageously disingenuous to talk about feeling "oppressed". Maybe in 30 or 40 years once the playing field has been leveled more then those conversations will come to the forefront.
(It's actually my belief that every one of them is actually an artifact of sexism anyway that will disappear soon after the related sexist belief disappears - i.e, once men and women make equal pay and have equal chances to advance their careers and we get rid of this idea of a woman being inherently weaker and dependent on a man's support, I think child support laws will follow suit. That's a discussion for another day, though)
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:Originally posted by GaalDornick:
quote:Originally posted by Samprimary: if you wanna read atlas shrugged i can sum it up for you
Well if you're offering...
STEP ONE: THE RANDMARILLION
Once upon a time there was a person named Ayn Rand who was very convinced that her pseudophilosophy of Objectivism was the correct way of doing anything or looking at anything or being rational at all. So while the pseudophilosophy may have been filled with a fatal series of errors (like how its rules on causation contradict its rules on free will) she sidestepped this noisome little problem by writing books in which she essentially created fantasy worlds in which Objectivism was correct and always succeeded. The correctness of Objectivism and the evil of democracy and any sort of socialism was written into the code of her universe as firmly and fundamentally as, say, the metaphysic in the lord of the rings, where the creatures of eru ilúvatar are good and capable of growing and making things good and right, but melkor's creatures like ogres and trolls are fundamentally incapable of good or creation and will always be evil destroyers or whatever. Rand, instead of dragons and elves and crap, just worked on the slightly more fantastical premise that a form of absolutely unchecked capitalism that is precisely as unchecked as she desired it and in the specific way she desired it is the only real force for good in the world and is the only proper and rational expression of morality and individualism.
So in order to understand the world of Atlas Shrugged, you must understand that it is exactly this, with the imposed metaphysic of her novels — the magical fantasy rules that underpin it fundamentally in a way which will cause world events to occur in exactly a manner which will not just validate the triumph of her capitalism, but lionize it as the ultimate source of all that is good in this world.
It would be as if I had a pseudophilosophy named Samjectivism where I am supremely awesome, win all internet debates, am always fundamentally correct, and adopting my beliefs and attitudes are the only way to be rational and moral. While this is essentially correct (and I will be detailing this exhaustively in a series of works with names like "The virtues of Samishness") let's just pretend just for the moment as an obviously ridiculous thought experiment that this is actually just me being an obsessively deluded egotistical crank — while the real world may disprove Samjectivism pretty soundly and my philosophical works are torn to shreds for being shoddily produced, flawed hackwork, I can still write books in which Samjectivism is always right and true and will be vindicated by how things play out. Also, the good Samjectivists are always handsome and the people they have to compete against are always sweaty and gross and super, like, mega ugly, like for serious.
Which will bring us to part two ..
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
It's almost been an hour WHERE'S PART TWO?!
Posted by Wingracer (Member # 12293) on :
Yeah come on Sam, we need you to finish this series before you die. Brandon Sanderson is good and all but he just hasn't grasped the Samjectivists principals in quite the same way.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
Hang on, I'm filling my life with bitter jealous rivalries, divisive inner circle drama, and methamphetamine abuse first so I can really get in the groove
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Will there also be cats?
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
The only questions allowed are variations on 'where's part two'.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Um...don't you ALREADY believe in Samjectivism? LOL.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kwea: Um...don't you ALREADY believe in Samjectivism? LOL.
I'm waiting for all the seasons to come out on HBO, because I can't see how Sam Shrugged will be translated to the small screen.
Posted by Foust (Member # 3043) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rakeesh: The only questions allowed are variations on 'where's part two'.
He doesn't owe you anything! Let the man enjoy his success.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
STEP TWO: ESTABLISH THE FANTASY RACES
Ok! You have a world which is explicitly designed, right down to the metaphysic, to be fully and fundamentally about how and why Ayn Rand is totally right about, you know, everything. It is kind of like the novels I wrote when I was 13 where every girl wanted to have sex with me, it was true in that world because I wrote it, okay? I was totally the most sexualest hot man in middle school, in my story. Except now this is a novel written by a person in an adult body which some other people in adult bodies consider a valid basis for personal ethics or how world economies would work. Even the physical appearance and basal demeanor of the creatures in your fantasy novel have to express in a satisfactory way whether they stand on the side of good and white and delightsome (objectivist capitalists) or foul and dark and evil (socialist vermin)
To that end:
- Beauty Equals Goodness. The good guys and the bad guys are essentially different fantasy races. Their appearance is an important assessment of their character! Good races are beautiful, like elves! Bad races are ugly, like goblins!
- Your good guy races are the capitalist protagonists. The members of this fey race are all strikingly handsome, usually with a monotonously consistent description of their facial features as 'angular' and 'sharp,' along with tallness, prominent cheekbones, and uncharacteristic youthful vitality even moving into middle age (like elves!). Striking blue eyes and blonde hair are for entirely innocent reasons definitely a preference.
- Female examples of this race often come off as unremarkable mary sues for these nordic heros, but usually possess the same 'angular' planes and inflexible BUT NOW SENSUAL precision. Sometimes they're too full of themselves and 'unfeminine' because they don't yet recognize and/or have succumbed to an awakening of rands i mean their unconscious desires, which is to have a strikingly angular chiseled male protagonist around to rape them and take charge because Rand thinks that's pretty much the natural order of things for the right place of mens and womens, and Rand is always right!
- These chiseled, geometrically angular, tall, handsome, beautiful, best, best, most best, awesome, angular, tall, chiseled, determined, angular, best angular, and most best angular fey capitalists are differentiated from their nemesis, the sloppy and petulant socialist scum.
- These sloppy and petulant socialist scum are a benighted and twisted and misshapen race, forged to represent truly and visually their untrustworthiness and wickedness. They are possessed of such horrifically unrational and evil ideas as actually giving a shit about other human beings.
- Appropriately, this race of vermin are usually short, squat, floppy, disgusting, jowled, have small and petulant mouths (like I really like this idea, okay, it's always about the mouths themselves being specifically petulant. Socialists start with 'resting bitchface' and move on into 'resting bitchbodyandsoul' if you will pardon my language)
- Their skin is pale, clammy, and soft, and their eyes are the OPPOSITE of sharp. Eat it, statists! Yes, they have pale and creepy sunken sallow eyes and features, and gangling weird bodies.
- Sometimes these creepy gelatinous socialists are 'generally regarded' as beautiful but it comes as no surprises to true captains of industry that upon closer inspection, they are literal feces, because their eyes are also not sharp, but rather limp and empty. Or something.
So now that we have established our fantasy races and clearly separated the angular sharp eyed Objectivekin from the flappy soggy Statist Goblins. The battle lines for the future of the best country ever (america forever obvs) is SO ON.
Which will be Part Three ...
Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
Something tells me you're not taking this summary very seriously and some poor kid out there might be reading this as a Sparknotes version and is going to be giving some pretty silly answers come test time.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
quote:Originally posted by Samprimary: gangling weird bodies
Dang it. I think I might be a socialist. Posted by CT (Member # 8342) on :
Samp OMG I love you you live in my brain
Posted by umberhulk (Member # 11788) on :
I really enjoyed reading how a strong female character in a ludicrously over the top action movie is going to ruin women for men, and men for women.
I mean, it makes sense. If men see this movie, they aren't going to be appropriately stern when their women try to don spikes and drive doom buggies over the rightful order of Masculinity.
Posted by Wingracer (Member # 12293) on :
There is absolutely no way in hell that I will not see Mad Max. I've been waiting for this one for a long time.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
I liked how they called it American culture, heh.
Posted by umberhulk (Member # 11788) on :
quote:Originally posted by Wingracer: There is absolutely no way in hell that I will not see Mad Max. I've been waiting for this one for a long time.
try watching doomsday!
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
That being said, it would be nice to talk about some of the real and actual problems men face in our society (whether that be child support, or (the relatively rare but still problematic) unfair way male domestic abuse or rape victims are treated, etc) without being conflated with or drowned out by misogynists. But like seriously, my experiences and the way I'm treated by society as a straight white man is so relatively awesome and easy - like literally almost everything is *designed* for my comfort and success - that it would feel outrageously disingenuous to talk about feeling "oppressed". Maybe in 30 or 40 years once the playing field has been leveled more then those conversations will come to the forefront.
(It's actually my belief that every one of them is actually an artifact of sexism anyway that will disappear soon after the related sexist belief disappears - i.e, once men and women make equal pay and have equal chances to advance their careers and we get rid of this idea of a woman being inherently weaker and dependent on a man's support, I think child support laws will follow suit. That's a discussion for another day, though)
Good luck. It's a nearly impossible discussion to have without either being co-opted by frothing misogynists, qualifier Nazis* or people being outright dismissive.
*A qualifier Nazi is someone who will interrupt EVERY discussion point if someone fails to say "but women still have it worse" because the discussion of men's problems is inherently threatening to the validity of women's problems since gender discussions are a zero sum game.
However, if you want a good, serious, well-measured entry point for such a discussion: This article from The Atlantic is a pretty good place to start.
Posted by Dogbreath (Member # 11879) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: *A qualifier Nazi is someone who will interrupt EVERY discussion point if someone fails to say "but women still have it worse" because the discussion of men's problems is inherently threatening to the validity of women's problems since gender discussions are a zero sum game.
I have to admit that that (the qualifier Nazi) is a trend I find extremely annoying. It's the sort of disingenuous argument that got Richard Dawkins roundly criticized (and very rightly so) when he basically said "women in Islamic countries have it way worse, so stop whining feminists" or very recently, Darrell Issa saying "poor people in India have it way worse, so stop complaining."
It's a great and valid argument to use when equivocation is claimed or implied - or when someone interrupts a discussion about "X women’s issue" with a "but, men have problems toooo!!!" comment - but it sure gets annoying, especially like in a recent discussion I was part of talking about the (massive, largely unreported) problem of men being raped in the military that got mocked by women talking about "tasty men tears" and otherwise belittling or dismissing the issue, including one woman saying it's impossible for men to be raped since rape is an inherently male-on-female social construct.
I think there's a tendency to conflate or confuse social stratification of injustice - whether that's racism, sexism, classism, genderism, what have you - with personal expressions of bigotry or violent acts. By which I mean, just because rape culture exists, and indeed enables and protects men who rape women, doesn't mean that a man who gets raped somehow "wasn't really raped" or "needs to stop whining about it, women have it way worse." You can't compare an individual experience with the experiences of an entire gender, especially when that comparison is neither implied nor wanted, or even necessary to understand and address the problem.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I like dogs. (not THAT way, pervert)
Posted by Men's Rights Forever (Member # 13269) on :
Regarding that "Return of Kings" article about Mad Max -- it's asinine. There is nothing inherently wrong with a strong female character and I've never objected to that sort of thing. Fantasy is fantasy. And Charlese Theron is a marvelous (and gorgeous) actress.
IMO there should be nothing wrong with any of these things:
--Action movie with predominantly male cast --Action movie with balance between male and female representation. --Action movie with predominate female characters.
All I care about is what feels emotionally true.
At the same time, I have to consider whether or not a film is meant for me. I recall Chris Rock's hilarious quote about the film Cold Mountain. "No one was thinking about me when they were making Cold Mountain."
I feel like George Miller was very much thinking about me and action movie fans when he made his latest Mad Max film.
[ May 16, 2015, 03:44 AM: Message edited by: Men's Rights Forever ]
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
So I tried CT's scone recipe but I unfortunately overbaked them slightly -- I was using an unfamiliar oven at the time, had rolled them slightly thinner than needed, and was trying to also get the other parts of dinner together. They ended up more crunchy and biscuit-like than I intended, which wasn't at all bad, especially with the sausage gravy I served them with. I'm still intrigued by the use of heavy cream as the primary liquid and think it warrants further exploration.
Taking my lessons from this experiment, I decided to try a different recipe that I'd found here (unfortunately the whole thing is an embedded ad for cough drops, but the recipe is nevertheless solid). It's a bit more of a standard biscuit method type recipe, but I was intrigued by the idea of freezing the dough before baking. I quickly was able to see why as the recipe's dough is so soft the scones would have likely spread a lot in baking from room temperature. Being a little more familiar with the oven I was now using, I kept the baking time to a scant ten minutes, with almost no browning at all in the tops, and the final crumb was excellent -- a bit more coarse than the final product I was looking for, but when warm they were almost cakey. I made the glaze a bit differently (add water? psh, nope. lemon juice only, and a bit of salt before adding the confectioner's sugar). The best part about the Sprouts scones was the slight crunch from the glaze contrasting with the pillowy interiors, and it was something I'd almost managed to achieve.
Almost.
In other news, the MRA outrage over Mad Max has made me almost certainly want to go see it.
Posted by CT (Member # 8342) on :
Cool!
Posted by umberhulk (Member # 11788) on :
quote:Originally posted by Men's Rights Forever: Regarding that "Return of Kings" article about Mad Max -- it's asinine. There is nothing inherently wrong with a strong female character and I've never objected to that sort of thing. Fantasy is fantasy. And Charlese Theron is a marvelous (and gorgeous) actress.
IMO there should be nothing wrong with any of these things:
--Action movie with predominantly male cast --Action movie with balance between male and female representation. --Action movie with predominate female characters.
All I care about is what feels emotionally true.
At the same time, I have to consider whether or not a film is meant for me. I recall Chris Rock's hilarious quote about the film Cold Mountain. "No one was thinking about me when they were making Cold Mountain."
I feel like George Miller was very much thinking about me and action movie fans when he made his latest Mad Max film.
try watching doomsday!!!
Posted by Men's Rights Forever (Member # 13269) on :
Guys, remember the feeling you got when you first saw the original "Matrix"? That feeling of watching a new type of action movie? That's what "Mad Max: Fury Road" did for me, and has evidently done for a lot of people. The hype is real. This movie SHOULD be experienced on the big screen.
I saw it in 2D and had a blast. The director said that he'd prefer it that we'd see it in 3D but that he understands some people's distaste for 3D. Whatever...I'll see it in 3D next week. Posted by Men's Rights Forever (Member # 13269) on :
So rarely have I thought: "I want videogames set in this movie's universe."
Posted by Men's Rights Forever (Member # 13269) on :
Like, I used to be a cinephile, but I had fallen out of love with movies about six years ago. Yea I caught the occasional film here and there but new stuff stopped seeming...new. It was as if all new films had the same beat.
This new Mad Max film is, for me, nothing less than the redemption of cinema as an art form.
Posted by Men's Rights Forever (Member # 13269) on :
quote:Originally posted by GaalDornick: Why are you talking about that feminazi garbage in a men's rights thread
This is the email I sent to Roosh V, the owner of Returns of Kings with whom I converse sometimes via email:
quote: "Roosh, regardless of the film's superficial politics, it's still a legitimately amazing film that hits you like a brick. Maybe the reason the mainstream media is highliting Aaron's story is because it is in fact a bit ridiculous and small minded to dismiss an entire film for that sort of reason. A way to go about it might've been to review the film, praise what was good and perhaps on the side take issue with its politics. The movie in its form, clarity, sustained vision etc is the sort of achievement that is very masculine in nature."
Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
Damn, you caught that fast. I had second thoughts about trolling you.
Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
If your intentions are to seem like a 'moderate' MRA (I don't know if that means anything but whatever), it will never work with a handle like that.
Go find your password for Clive.
Posted by Men's Rights Forever (Member # 13269) on :
I take up this handle only because "MRAs" are boogeymen to some people.
Posted by Men's Rights Forever (Member # 13269) on :
Not that I am "Clive" (Who?)
Posted by Men's Rights Forever (Member # 13269) on :
"Pitch Perfect 2" made more money than "Mad Max: Fury Road."
Perhaps America deserves bad movies.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
quote:Originally posted by Men's Rights Forever: Not that I am "Clive" (Who?)
Good save. You almost blew your cover.
Posted by Men's Rights Forever (Member # 13269) on :
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:the owner of Returns of Kings with whom I converse sometimes via email
lol of course you would
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