The waiting is over! The Daily Show and The Colbert Report have announced dueling rallies to be held Oct. 30 at the National Mall, on a historic date of no particular significance.
Jon Stewart's rally, The Rally to Restore Sanity, calls for a more reasoned approach to politics and a quieter tone. Please, news media, the grownups are talking now. Watch the announcement. My favorite suggested sign: "I Disagree With You But I'm Pretty Sure You're Not Hitler."
On the other hand. Stephen Colbert demands more fear in the political conversation, and has announced his rally, "March to Keep Fear Alive." Watch the announcement. "Never forget -- 'Reason' is just one letter away from 'Treason.' Coincidence? Reasonable people would say it is, but America can't afford to take that chance."
[ September 17, 2010, 12:48 PM: Message edited by: Chris Bridges ]
Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
I think you mean the National Mall.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
You're right, thanks.
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
I really hope this is legitimate and not a gag. I can't think of a more fun reason to head down to DC!
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
So... a respected but fake pundit is activly doing something to make an example of of what the average American think and want in effort to display them to the politicians and news media who use lies and fear to control the masses?
Who showed Jon Stewart that movie? Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
I'm really toying with the idea of going. I've got people to visit in DC and this might just push me to do it that weekend and go to the rally.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
I'm really thinking about going as well. I don't think I could afford to fly, but if I could get a friend to split the gas with me, I think I could make the drive. Just need to find some friends in the area.
You know, on the one hand I want to go because I think it'll be cool, and on the other hand I really want to support the message of moderation. One more body on screen makes the message that much louder to anyone watching. I wish he'd given a bit more than a month's notice on the date though.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
I know I'm tempted to go and gawk. I wonder how much hotel rates are affected by this kind of thing though.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
I would love to attend something like this. Unfortunately the transcontinental railroad is the only method I could afford and that's something like a 1 month round trip?
Posted by MattP (Member # 10495) on :
I would love to attend, but I've got a family vacation the week before. I don't know if I could pull off more time away in addition to the expense.
Posted by scholarette (Member # 11540) on :
I will have a week old baby at that point. Responsible parenting says I am a no show.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
quote:Originally posted by AchillesHeel: So... a respected but fake pundit is activly doing something to make an example of of what the average American think and want in effort to display them to the politicians and news media who use lies and fear to control the masses?
I really liked that movie when it came out, and found it to be fairly insightful. Far more than I thought it would be.
I love Robin Williams, and think he is an underrated actor.
Posted by theamazeeaz (Member # 6970) on :
$80 each way from Boston. I'm trying to get friends in on it before space goes at the hostels.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
This is why having family in the DC area is tops Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
I talked to my boyfriend on the phone today who said he was planning on going. Sounds awesome, wish I could go too!!
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: ...the transcontinental railroad is the only method I could afford and that's something like a 1 month round trip?
It's more like a week round-trip. I've done the Amtrak D.C. to L.A. trip. It's not bad, if you get a sleeper car, or even better, a whole-room car.
Posted by DDDaysh (Member # 9499) on :
:-) I think it would be really fun as well.... but the responsible/broke parent in me says I'll be a no-show as well.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
quote:Originally posted by steven:
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: ...the transcontinental railroad is the only method I could afford and that's something like a 1 month round trip?
It's more like a week round-trip. I've done the Amtrak D.C. to L.A. trip. It's not bad, if you get a sleeper car, or even better, a whole-room car.
I went from Springfield, MA to San Antonio, TX, and it took about 2.5 days. I didn't even get a sleeper car, I just slept in the oversized seats that recline on the regular car. Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
quote:One other point about this fixation on the "tone" of our politics. Political debates are inherently acrimonious -- much of the rhetoric during the time of the American Founding, as well as throughout the 19th Century, easily competes with, if not exceeds, what we have now in terms of noxiousness and extremity -- but far more important than tone, in my view, is content. For instance, Bill Kristol, a repeated guest on The Daily Show, is invariably polite on television, yet uses his soft-spoken demeanor to propagate repellent, destructive ideas. The same is true for war criminal John Yoo, who also appeared, with great politeness, on The Daily Show. Moreover, some acts are so destructive and wrong that they merit extreme condemnation (such as Bush's war crimes). I don't think anyone disputes that our discourse would benefit if it were more substantive and rational, but it's usually the ideas themselves -- not the tone used to express them -- that are the culprits.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
I can't imagine what my opinions of the founding fathers would be if they had had occasion to appear on radio programs or Fox News.
It was probably for the best that we do not have the transcripts of the debates that went on during the drafting of The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution. We might find out founding fathers were not that far removed from what we've got today, except that they were more bookish.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: I would love to attend something like this. Unfortunately the transcontinental railroad is the only method I could afford and that's something like a 1 month round trip?
It couldn't be more than a week. But there's cheaper airline travel available.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
A friend and I are probably going. We're just working out the time off now, then will book. Airline prices are surprisingly reasonable, hope we can get a decent hotel, too.
Posted by The White Whale (Member # 6594) on :
My brother called me and said that we should seriously consider attending.
I'm seriously considering it, but I have, to quote Jon Stewart, s**t to do. Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: I can't imagine what my opinions of the founding fathers would be if they had had occasion to appear on radio programs or Fox News.
It was probably for the best that we do not have the transcripts of the debates that went on during the drafting of The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution. We might find out founding fathers were not that far removed from what we've got today, except that they were more bookish.
We have pretty extensive journals written by various members of the constitutional convention, and some stuff from the second continental congress. There are also letters written at the time. But I don't think that's what the article is really referring to.
In the first REAL presidential election, the 1800 election between Jefferson and Adams, insults flew hot and heavy. Jefferson accused Adams of wanting to turn the country over to England and the king, he called Adams an adulterer and a number of other things, and Adams' camp threw the insults right back in Jefferson's face. The only difference is that Jefferson and Adams never said ANYTHING directly, because back then it was uncouth to campaign for the high office.
The norm was fairly quickly established though, and didn't go away for hundreds of years. The real problem is that even fifteen years ago, Republicans and Democrats could snipe at each other during the day and have a glass of bourbon after the cameras were off. Now they don't. They used to be able to harangue each other by day, and close a deal by night. Now they don't. Tarring and feathering has always been a part of politics, but it becomes a problem when it literally grinds the government to a halt. It does us no good to say "but the Founding Fathers were worse!" because even while they were name calling, they were building a nation from scratch. In other words, we have a long way to go before we're as good as those guys.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
My dad had me promise I'm going to this. Whether it is with my liberal friends or conservative friends, I don't know yet.
Posted by Mucous (Member # 12331) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: ... We might find out founding fathers were not that far removed from what we've got today, except that they were more bookish.
It's no biggie here: ~1867
quote:The public however was quite tolerant of his indulgence and MacDonald himself often claimed that the public quite frankly preferred John A. drunk to his enemies sober. During a campaign speech, after a particularly long evening he was unable to hold his own and threw up on the back of the platform. His opponent pointed and said "Is this the man you want running your country, a drunker."
MacDonald pulled himself together and stood up for his rebuttal and quietly said " I get sick sometimes not because of drink or any other cause, except that I am forced to listen to the ranting of my honorable opponent."
1971
quote:John Lundrigan: The question I raised to the Right Honourable Prime Minister of Canada was that the government should introduce some new programs to lift the unemployment burden over and above what has been announced since last March. The Prime Minister interrupted me in a way that you wouldn't expect on the street, by mouthing a four-letter obscenity which I've challenged him to verbally place on the record and I don't think he's done so since. And I certainly didn't expect this kind of behaviour from my Prime Minister of Canada, having worshipped and really adored men like John Diefenbaker and Mr Pearson and a lot of other people in the past. This to me is really inexcusable and, well I guess we're just going to have to grin and bear it, along with the Lapalme workers. ... Press: In the words you've been quoted as saying? Pierre Trudeau: [half smile] No. Press: (After murmurs by other press) What were you thinking… when you moved your lips? Pierre Trudeau: What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say “fuddle duddle” or something like that? God, you guys…! [walks away]
quote:Originally posted by Kwea: I went from Springfield, MA to San Antonio, TX, and it took about 2.5 days. I didn't even get a sleeper car, I just slept in the oversized seats that recline on the regular car. [/QB]
Thou enjoyest misery?
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
Overnight coach sleeper seats are fine.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Bought my tickets! I'm going!
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by ElJay: Bought my tickets! I'm going!
*Turns green, pouts, and makes harrumphing noises*
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
quote:Originally posted by ElJay: Bought my tickets! I'm going!
I dont enjoy invoking the rules of the internet often but in this case I will make an exception. Pics or it didnt happen.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
How in the world would you know if I post pics of me or some random pics I flickr search from the rally?
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
... I just want to live through you because Im poor and live very far away from D.C. Please dont judge me.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Ha ha ha haha! Glenn Beck is already wetting his pants.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Why?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Because on his radio show hes ranting about how Stewart and Colbert are "showing their true colors", "activating the youth" as if it were some kind of mcarthyist conspiracy.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Why do you listen to Glenn Beck? Why do you care so much what he might think?
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
This event puts me in a real difficult spot.
That weekend is the weekend before the midterm elections. For those have done political volunteering, it's GOTV, and it's the busiest canvassing/volunteering weekend of the election cycle.
I was joking to a friend that Stewart and Colbert must actually be secret republican operatives. They hold an event on the most important campaigning weekend knowing flocks of liberal types will descend on DC and thus be unable to canvass for democratic candidates!
Or, if O'Reilly is right, their fans are a bunch of lazy out of work stoners who wouldn't be likely to volunteer their time anyway...
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by katharina: Why do you listen to Glenn Beck? Why do you care so much what he might think?
I see you probably not spatially aware of your surroundings, I think there's people who help people like that.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
quote:Originally posted by Strider: This event puts me in a real difficult spot.
That weekend is the weekend before the midterm elections. For those have done political volunteering, it's GOTV, and it's the busiest canvassing/volunteering weekend of the election cycle.
I was joking to a friend that Stewart and Colbert must actually be secret republican operatives. They hold an event on the most important campaigning weekend knowing flocks of liberal types will descend on DC and thus be unable to canvass for democratic candidates!
Or, if O'Reilly is right, their fans are a bunch of lazy out of work stoners who wouldn't be likely to volunteer their time anyway...
On the flip side, they'll energize a bunch of people that normally don't vote, or who voted for Obama but are expected to not show up again. They'll draw away some canvassers, but a lot of who they'll draw are apathetic youth who normally sit on the sidelines. Doing it RIGHT BEFORE midterms might give them enough energy to last them until election day.
They'll as Beck says, "activate the youth." I listened to Beck's clip, but I'm not totally sure what he was saying. It sounded like a half-assed attempt to say Stewart/Colbert were trying to get the youth to vote in league with unions, but he idea was only half-formed in the clip I heard, and I really had no idea what he was talking about. On the other hand, he didn't really seem to be slamming it, per se. He said to vote, even if you vote for something he disagrees with.
Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
Anybody watching? It's been quite entertaining so far.
Posted by Parkour (Member # 12078) on :
I am watching it and also watching the free republic and fox nation threads on the event. It is hilarious to watch freepers disown one musician after another.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
whens this gonna be availiable in full online? I had work.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
This is sort of like the left patting itself on the back.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
Why? What makes it left?
Posted by Tarrsk (Member # 332) on :
Do you really think Lisa actually watched it? Because if she had, she'd know that Stewart spent as much time criticizing liberal hysteria as he did Glenn Beck - and importantly, there wasn't actually much time devoted to either. The bulk of the criticism (and the harshest words) were, as always, directed at the news media for their utter failure at reasoned analysis.
Anyone who thinks that Stewart is a liberal mouthpiece has no idea what he/she is talking about. Period.
Posted by Amanecer (Member # 4068) on :
I love Stewart and Colbert and am myself more liberal than conservative. But it seems abundantly clear to me that both men are liberal and that a liberal viewpoint is expressed more often than not. Liberal "mouthpieces" whatever that means, maybe not. But nor could they reasonably be considered non-partisan.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Eh, I kind of disagree.
I think they're both liberals in the sense that their personal theories of government align with what an average liberal might like. However, I think both them them are filled with contempt for the liberal establishment, both in the media (especially the media) and in government.
I think that in their own perfect worlds, they'd probably both be centrists. And I think as far as their tv personas go, they're about as non-partisan as you get on tv. They both regularly attack both sides, they both hate both major political parties.
Everyone has private political leanings, and though both Stewart's and Colbert's are fairly well known, I don't think they negatively influence their actual commentary enough to label them as liberal media figures.
Their viewpoint is 90% of the time about process rather than content. However Stewart might think an issue should be decided, most of his ire is directed at how politicians and the media go about forming and passing a bill, and how special interests subsequently muck up the process to screw over the average citizen, and he hates the lack of transparency. None of those are liberal issues. But that's most of what he talks about. Both of them are far more focused on the "how" rather than the "what," of government.
Posted by Tarrsk (Member # 332) on :
quote:Originally posted by Amanecer: I love Stewart and Colbert and am myself more liberal than conservative. But it seems abundantly clear to me that both men are liberal and that a liberal viewpoint is expressed more often than not. Liberal "mouthpieces" whatever that means, maybe not. But nor could they reasonably be considered non-partisan.
Liberal mouthpiece means somebody that parrots liberal talking points and doesn't engage in actual analysis or reasoned discourse of any kind. The left's equivalent of O'Donnell, Palin, Beck, et al.
My point wasn't that Stewart and Colbert aren't liberals. They certainly are. But they aren't liberal mouthpieces, and the Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear wasn't a Democratic GOTV campaign, no matter what the mainstream media is saying. It was a cry for reason and tolerance for other people's viewpoints and a harsh critique of the 24-hour news networks for acting as an engine of sensationalism.
Speaking of which, I'm finding it very interesting how the media itself is covering the rally. There is a general tone of dismissiveness and numerous pundits are saying that Stewart has "jumped the shark" - rather ridiculous, considering Stewart just summoned a crowd three times larger than Beck's (current estimates around 200,000 people), and oh yeah, he just gave the most incisive and thoughtful interview with President of the United States in years on his show. There's also a lot of noise being spread about "traffic issues" and unruliness - a common rhetorical technique used by pundits to turn massive turnout into a negative.
I suspect all of this is because the media knows that it itself was Stewart and Colbert's primary target, not Republicans or Democrats. Of course, rather than acknowledging their criticisms and responding in a [ahem] sane or reasonable fashion, the news outlets essentially turning to their assembled punditry and columnists to deliver ad hominem attacks at the Rally's organizers and attendees to divert attention from the painful truth of Stewart's message.
Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
Well I went to see Obama, while my best friend was at the dual rallies.
I am jealous Posted by The White Whale (Member # 6594) on :
quote:Where we live our values and principles form the foundation that sustains us while we get things done. Not the barriers that prevent us from getting things done. Most Americans don’t live their lives solely as democrats, republicans, liberals, or conservatives. Americans live their lives more as people that are just a little bit late for something they have to do. Often something they do not want to do, but they do it. Impossible things everyday that are only made possible through the little reasonable compromises we all make.
Posted by Amanecer (Member # 4068) on :
quote:I think that in their own perfect worlds, they'd probably both be centrists.
I don't doubt this, but I'm having trouble thinking of somebody for whom this is not true.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
"News commentators, radio personalities, pundits, talk shows, I have long been wary and dismissive of you. If you scream at me, I just assume you're lying and don't want me to think too much about what you're saying. I appreciate passion, and powerful arguments, and reasoned pleas, but far too many of you use scorn and derision and demonization to make your points for me to take you seriously. I just don't believe you're really trying to help. I think you're trying to improve your own bottom line. When witchfinders get paid by the witch, they're going to find witches everywhere whether they actually exist or not."
[ October 31, 2010, 03:57 PM: Message edited by: Chris Bridges ]
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
Since daytime hotel television is boring, I've been watching the major networks struggle to try to avoid the lessons it could learn from the rally's criticism.
Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
I was impressed that he criticized the firings of Williams and Sanchez. Neither was a very good reporter, and both were being stupid, but the oversensitivity and zero-tolerance attitudes that got them canned are just over the top.
Posted by Risuena (Member # 2924) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tarrsk: There's also a lot of noise being spread about "traffic issues" and unruliness - a common rhetorical technique used by pundits to turn massive turnout into a negative.
Err... It seems like you're saying the media is manufacturing the traffic issues, but they were very real. The metro was completely unprepared for the number of people who came to the rally. I had problems going in and out of DC and I did my best to pick times on the metro that were less likely to be affected by the rally. I know of people who tried to go to the rally who were unable to because there was no way to get on a train. So I'd say the traffic issues are worth some comment, especially since they did impact the rally and likely some people's enjoyment of the rally.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
Tarrsk: I found that the British/Canadian/Aljazeera coverage of the rally was pretty positive FWIW.
quote:Originally posted by Destineer: I was impressed that he criticized the firings of Williams and Sanchez. Neither was a very good reporter, and both were being stupid, but the oversensitivity and zero-tolerance attitudes that got them canned are just over the top.
Same warning applies!
Posted by Amanecer (Member # 4068) on :
Great signs! Nighthawk's link has a greater number of antagonistic sign's than Strider's. I'd recommend Strider's link.
Posted by theamazeeaz (Member # 6970) on :
quote:Originally posted by Risuena:
quote:Originally posted by Tarrsk: There's also a lot of noise being spread about "traffic issues" and unruliness - a common rhetorical technique used by pundits to turn massive turnout into a negative.
Err... It seems like you're saying the media is manufacturing the traffic issues, but they were very real. The metro was completely unprepared for the number of people who came to the rally. I had problems going in and out of DC and I did my best to pick times on the metro that were less likely to be affected by the rally. I know of people who tried to go to the rally who were unable to because there was no way to get on a train. So I'd say the traffic issues are worth some comment, especially since they did impact the rally and likely some people's enjoyment of the rally.
I'm not surprised at this. My friends and I could barely walk out of there, let alone get on the Metro. We ended up walking several blocks away from the mall, then going down a side street, returning to mall and getting in the Natural History museum from the back and looking at dinosaurs until it closed. The museum was crowded but not insane.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Where can I watch it in full now that the rally is over?
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
You can also get it from a fast moving stream of water.
Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
Oh god, there were 9/11 truthers there???
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
I think you misunderstood the signs.
They were meaning the average muslem wasnt responsible is the truth.
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
There were a whole mess of...not necessarily counter-protesters, but people who were protesting for their own causes. I believe that they were trying to capitalize on the popularity and visibility of the event.
As to watching the whole thing...unless you're a fan of the music groups, I wouldn't suggest doing that. There was a lot of live music. I'm a big fan of the Roots and John Legend, who played for the first 30 minutes of so, but if you're not, you're not going to miss anything by skipping it.
The train song part was funny and should be watched, but everyone was bored by...I can't even remember their names, Mavis something was one of them...the people from Chicago. Thankfully, there was a guy trying to climb a tree right near where I was and there was humor in the crowd about that (We took up a "Yes you can!" chant). Kid Rock and Sheryl Crow I'd personally skip. Their song wasn't that good and had, I think, a horrible message.
I think you can find clips of all the good stuff online. Some of it, like the Mythbusters segment, I think you'd have to be there to really enjoy. The Daily Show show stuff was okay...the medals ceremony was good, but, honestly, you're really not missing that much if you don't see it. Jon's moment of sincerity is definitely the take away there.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
I'm watching from the beginning, might as well, i got 2 screens.
Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
Of course there were truthers there. But you really can't read anything into that. Truthers show up at every protest, no matter who's putting it together. They live to protest.
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
quote:I think you misunderstood the signs.
They were meaning the average muslem wasnt responsible is the truth.
If it's the photo I'm thinking about, it is the juxtaposition between the Truthers and the Muslim with the "We didn't do it" sign that's just precious. And yes, the truthers were real truthers.
I'm trying to decide if I want to open up my facebook album for public viewing. I got quite a few pictures of signs. Does allowing "anyone" to view an album reduce the privacy on the rest of my profile somehow?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
While I view Loose Change to be fairly disturbing I wish the Truthers would restrain their views to "we think the previous administration was so incompetant that its tantamount to allow this to happen" which I believe more plausible then some massive conspiracy to bring down the towers.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
Zo Nation on the Rally to Restore Sanity.
Posted by Darth_Mauve (Member # 4709) on :
That's the crowd in ANTARCTICA.
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
Well, that was 11 minutes that could have been spent on better things. I'm not sure what I expected though. His take of the rally is pretty consistent with what pjtv has been pushing for years.
[edited because my "g" got sneaky and replaced the "j" in pjtv....]
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
I liked that zo nation guy's ridiculous ambush questions.
the rest of the video: also lol?
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:Originally posted by TheHumanTarget: I'm not sure what I expected though.
What I wasn't expecting was for the video to be pretty much a pitch-perfect unintentional parody of what stewart's closing arguments were directly addressing.
I guess, even when they're called on it, they're too preprogrammed to deviate from the general strategy. How adorable!
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
quote:Originally posted by MrSquicky: Thankfully, there was a guy trying to climb a tree right near where I was and there was humor in the crowd about that (We took up a "Yes you can!" chant).
While this probably happened many places, I'm amused by the possibility that we were in the same area of the crowd. Had I known, I would have waved.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
So where were you lisa when Michael Steele literally word for word said "when we take back the House we will make Nancy Pelosi sit in the back of the bus."?
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
Maybe you meant this for a different thread?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Maybe I'm confused.
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
There is another thread that is about the sitting in the back comment.
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
quote:Originally posted by ElJay:
quote:Originally posted by MrSquicky: Thankfully, there was a guy trying to climb a tree right near where I was and there was humor in the crowd about that (We took up a "Yes you can!" chant).
While this probably happened many places, I'm amused by the possibility that we were in the same area of the crowd. Had I known, I would have waved.
edit: Oddly enough, that's a pretty good approximation of what I look like.
[ November 02, 2010, 01:51 PM: Message edited by: MrSquicky ]
Posted by Parkour (Member # 12078) on :
quote:Originally posted by Samprimary:
quote:Originally posted by TheHumanTarget: I'm not sure what I expected though.
What I wasn't expecting was for the video to be pretty much a pitch-perfect unintentional parody of what stewart's closing arguments were directly addressing.
I guess, even when they're called on it, they're too preprogrammed to deviate from the general strategy. How adorable!
When you watch stewart ending the rally and then you watch that video, you see that stewart has them nailed. Good job, pjtv.
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