Watch the video of the Best Female Artist award being given to a surprised and extremely grateful Taylor Swift only to have the mic ripped out of her hands by Kanye West who apparently felt Beyonce should have won.
The whole crowd booed every time he was mentioned after that.
Fortunately Beyoncé gave her speech time over to Swift in response.
Kanye tries to apologize in a blog post, fails, also proves nigh-illiterate
ok anyway thought I might introduce a bit of the popular music drama to you all since I imagine this is all practically from another world for a lot of you.
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Kanye is a douche.
In other news, I think this internet fad is here to stay! Also, puppies and pizza are awesome.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
It's not the Best Female Artist award being given out-- it's the Best Female Video.
How much input do the musicians have into what goes into their music videos?
Posted by Tinros (Member # 8328) on :
Scott, that depends on the producer and director. I know with AFI, a few of their videos have been entirely the director.producer, but a couple of them(namely The Leaving Song, Pt. 2) were entirely the band's idea.
Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
The second link was unavailable, but the video can be seen on GearLive (after commercial) here. As for the "apology" (linked from GearLive), it sounds like West is still saying Beyonce should have won and seems to suggest that Swift should give her award to Beyonce.
Wow - the comments on the "apology" page are quite the eye-opener. Apparently GearLive needs to add a couple of words to their profanity filter.
Posted by Christine (Member # 8594) on :
And the next nominee for douche of the year is...
Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
oh, I think he's in a category by himself.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Oh, the poor dear, her voice was shaking during her redo speech.
Isn't Kanye the guy who walked across the stage when he didn't win some award because he thought he deserved it?
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
I enjoy the fact that everyone is calling him a douche, asshat, ego-centric sociopath but no one calls him crazy. And yet in his "apology" letter
quote: I'M NOT CRAZY YALL
I see this as an admission of mental instability and we are all going to hell for persecuting a man with deficiancy's.
Posted by Javert (Member # 3076) on :
Sorry...was there some sort of award presentation last night? What is this mtv you speak of?
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
it is some sort of impious ritual centered around the talking picture-shows and penny dreadfuls of our youth
Posted by Darth_Mauve (Member # 4709) on :
Don't worry Javert...there is some sort of Awards Night almost every night, and it seems that MTV is producing most of them.
MTV is a Reality Show Production company that includes Awards Nights as one of their reality shows. Occasionally they need to boost ratings so they increase the drama with things like this.
NOTE: This MTV should not to be confused with the MTV of the 1980's and 1990's that played actual Music Videos on cable television.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Whaddaya mean now?
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
Kanye West should have done what all rappers do and dissed the decision on his next record.
Posted by dantesparadigm (Member # 8756) on :
Or shot various key players.
Posted by Juxtapose (Member # 8837) on :
"Boooyaaawww"?
Posted by dantesparadigm (Member # 8756) on :
Or shot various key players.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
He DID make a really good apology on Leno just now, but I still don't like him. Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
Or shot various key players.
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
Well, there are much bigger jerks in the world. Who amongst us hasn't acted stupidly, immediately realized we were wrong, and struggled to figure out how to make amends? I've done it, man. In spades. Posted by beatnix19 (Member # 5836) on :
"Well, there are much bigger jerks in the world. Who amongst us hasn't acted stupidly, immediately realized we were wrong, and struggled to figure out how to make amends? I've done it, man. In spades."
But have you done it repeatedly on television in front of a worldwide audiance? He is a selfish child, who has no thought at all for the feelings and opinions of other people. He should dissapear for ever, but people will support him, buy his records and ignore the fact that he has little to no redeaming qualities. Basically, he's an idiot with a fan base of idiots. Just my two cents...
Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
quote:Originally posted by beatnix19: "Well, there are much bigger jerks in the world. Who amongst us hasn't acted stupidly, immediately realized we were wrong, and struggled to figure out how to make amends? I've done it, man. In spades."
But have you done it repeatedly on television in front of a worldwide audiance? He is a selfish child, who has no thought at all for the feelings and opinions of other people. He should dissapear for ever, but people will support him, buy his records and ignore the fact that he has little to no redeaming qualities. Basically, he's an idiot with a fan base of idiots. Just my two cents...
You messed up the rhythm!
Anyway that sounds like at least fitty cents.
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
quote:But have you done it repeatedly on television in front of a worldwide audiance? He is a selfish child, who has no thought at all for the feelings and opinions of other people. He should dissapear for ever, but people will support him, buy his records and ignore the fact that he has little to no redeaming qualities. Basically, he's an idiot with a fan base of idiots. Just my two cents...
I think his crimes are exaggerated because they've taken place on tv, and people are unforgiving of him because they look at him through that lens of inhumanity that we apply to celebrities.
There's something about him -- a vulnerability or a sincerity -- that I like.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
Respect I lost for Kanye West = 0 (I had none in the first place)
Respect I gained for Beyonce = 10
How classy is Beyonce for doing what she did in giving her speech time to Taylor Swift? A lot of celebrities could learn from her.
Posted by daventor (Member # 11981) on :
I'm not much of a hiphop/rap person anyways, and I already thought of Kanye as a delusional idiot after hearing his claim that he was the "voice of his generation." But this pretty much seals my complete dislike for the guy. The only piece of music he's done that I like is Love Lockdown, but I might actually even not listen to that anymore. It would be really great if when celebrities behaved like this everybody would just boycott and ignore them and let them fade into irrelevance.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
You all know what a big fan of Obama I am. But this time, he's absolutely right. Link.
Posted by malanthrop (Member # 11992) on :
My third grader likes to rhyme too but she still has the intelligence of a third grader.
By the way, I was in New Orleans while in the military. I have to come clean,....we had special buses for white people and were given the go ahead to shoot black people...Ha.
Posted by Sean Monahan (Member # 9334) on :
"The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them."
- Samuel Clemens
Posted by Phanto (Member # 5897) on :
Or shot various key players.
Posted by JWAAL (Member # 12182) on :
Apparently President Obama called Kanye a jackass. it was supposed to be off the record. but it isn't.
Now i can just see kanye getting on TV and saying, "Obama hates black people."
Posted by malanthrop (Member # 11992) on :
Obama was suppose to be "off the record"..the network has already apologized for twittering his off the record comment. What we need are politicians to be honest with what they believe at all times, instead of weighing political numbers. He spoke his mind while "off the record"; I want a leader who speaks his mind at all times. I want the truth of who I am voting for. We need leaders who never ask the question: "Is this on the record?".
What you should ask yourself is this: "Why would the media apologize for twittering the president's honest opinion?"
[ September 16, 2009, 10:42 AM: Message edited by: malanthrop ]
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
manathrop: Yes it's far better that we have a president who always always speaks his mind without restraint. The sort of guy who when trying to negotiate legislation is forced to talk about how much he dislikes his opposition personally. Or when a crisis hits and we look to him for strength, he assuages our anxiety by reminding us that in truth he is human too, and that he may actually screw everything up, and cause irreversible harm.
I am so grateful the media made sure that I know what president Obama's opinion regarding Kanye West is. Up until that moment I really wasn't sure how I should feel. Now that I know the president agrees with me, I love him all the more. I really hope the next few news cycles can be filled with events like this, rather than complex issues like health care or the war in Afghanistan. Those issues are so loaded and complex, that it's better if our president simply stay away from them, rather than try to deal with them head on as then we'd expect him to always spout out his kneejerk responses to every development. Calculated and considered response is far to disingenuous for our people!
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
I don't really have a problem with the President saying that, nor do I have a problem with it being reported. I'm not sure why that should cause any controversy at all.
Posted by lem (Member # 6914) on :
I loved how Comedy Central reran the Southpark Fishsticks episode all night last night.
Posted by Juxtapose (Member # 8837) on :
I've sort of realized that Mr. West is addicted to attention, and we're all his dealers. In some ways, he should be viewed like a junkie.
Stuff like this is just a withdrawal symptom. Like he's hallucinating a dead baby crawl across the ceiling or something. And what we have to do is pretend we're his parents in the next room and ignore his pitiful wails of terror. If we give in, he gets his fix.
Okay, maybe not the best analogy there.
Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
quote:What you should ask yourself is this: "Why would the media apologize for twittering the president's honest opinion?" [/QB]
Because Twitter is ridiculous and should be destroyed.
--j_k
Posted by brojack17 (Member # 9189) on :
Why do we call people douche? What is it about that word that implies a bad person. Would enema not work. I think it would be more fitting since it goes in the place that is another term for a bad person.
Just a thought.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
If I'm not mistaken, it went something like this:
scum -> scumbag -> douchebag -> douche.
But I could be mistaken.
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
Phonetically, the way douche sounds is just great. I love saying it. Douche. Douche! Ah, yeah.
Posted by Christine (Member # 8594) on :
quote:Originally posted by TL: I don't really have a problem with the President saying that, nor do I have a problem with it being reported. I'm not sure why that should cause any controversy at all.
I don't have a problem with him saying it nor do I have a problem with his opinion but I do have a problem with a reporter twittering his off the record remark. The president does need to be able to say some things without it being all over the media or nothing would get done.
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
Yeah, Christine, I agree. I don't like the way it came out. Mostly it's just... silly. A twitter leak. And then an apology. What's it all about? If it's newsworthy, just report it. If it's not newsworthy, (which it isn't) then who cares? Tweeting out of school.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Rather, the President will start barring reporters from being near him unless he is on the record.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lisa: If I'm not mistaken, it went something like this:
scum -> scumbag -> douchebag -> douche.
But I could be mistaken.
That etymology doesn't follow for me. A douche bag already exists as a personal hygiene device, and the meaning is significantly different from "scumbag," to rule out a direct morphology. Perhaps the "bag" suffix pattern established by "scumbag" or "dirtbag" or "feedbag," does reinforce the usage, but I think the word stands on its own.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
I don't know, Lisa's explanation made sense to me. Lot's of insults transfer like that.
It's pretty common to take an insult and change a word to something that doesn't necessarily make sense.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
But douchebag makes sense on its own merits. It's the receptacle of the douche water, and is itself flacid and shapeless.
Posted by HollowEarth (Member # 2586) on :
Wait, you call people pieholes?
Are they actually insulted?
Posted by malanthrop (Member # 11992) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: manathrop: Yes it's far better that we have a president who always always speaks his mind without restraint. The sort of guy who when trying to negotiate legislation is forced to talk about how much he dislikes his opposition personally. Or when a crisis hits and we look to him for strength, he assuages our anxiety by reminding us that in truth he is human too, and that he may actually screw everything up, and cause irreversible harm.
I am so grateful the media made sure that I know what president Obama's opinion regarding Kanye West is. Up until that moment I really wasn't sure how I should feel. Now that I know the president agrees with me, I love him all the more. I really hope the next few news cycles can be filled with events like this, rather than complex issues like health care or the war in Afghanistan. Those issues are so loaded and complex, that it's better if our president simply stay away from them, rather than try to deal with them head on as then we'd expect him to always spout out his kneejerk responses to every development. Calculated and considered response is far to disingenuous for our people!
Of course politicians and everyone for that matter need a level of self restraint. We have a perfect example of someone who blurts out stupid statements in our Vice President.
I'm concerned with politician saying what they think the people want to hear, make promises they cannot keep or even intend to keep. We're still in Iraq...with all this presiden't promises, we're still following the prior administration's agenda. Where's Cindy Shehan now,..not hearing much protest from Dems or Code Pink. For some odd reason, it's a non-issue. There is a distinction between weighing one's word and being outright deceptive to the public.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:Originally posted by TL: I don't really have a problem with the President saying that, nor do I have a problem with it being reported. I'm not sure why that should cause any controversy at all.
There's places in the white house where reporters will agree to certain provisions on reporting and what they're allowed to report or repeat in order to gain access to these areas and functions that reporters would not normally have. The reporter made an agreement to not report off-record comments without approval, and he broke that agreement.
Posted by Dobbie (Member # 3881) on :
"Piehole" is just a slang term for mouth. Sometimes it is used insultingly (i.e. "Shut your piehole!") but it is not in itself an insult.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
quote:Wait, you call people pieholes?
Are they actually insulted?
Why don't you tell me... piehole!
Posted by malanthrop (Member # 11992) on :
After the movie American Pie came out, I think calling someone a piehole might be offensive.
Posted by Architraz Warden (Member # 4285) on :
Yes, but out of all this we got the following observation from Kate Perry over Twitter...
quote:'F*** u Kanye. It's like you stepped on a kitten'
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
I'm really happy for you, kitten, i'm going to let you finish, but puppies are the cutest animals of the year
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
quote:The reporter made an agreement to not report off-record comments without approval, and he broke that agreement.
The information I read was that the reporter speaking to the President was one who worked for MSNBC, but that the off the record comments were tweeted by ABC employees who improperly picked up the conversation from a feed shared by both networks. It's not really here or there, as -- whoever leaked it, it was dumb and off-putting.
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
Seriously, Kanye? SERIOUSLY? Posted by brojack17 (Member # 9189) on :
This wasn't from me, I wish I had thought of it.
BREAKING NEWS.... Kanye West interrupted Patrick Swayze's funeral today, to let everyone know that Micheal Jackson's funeral was better...
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by brojack17: This wasn't from me, I wish I had thought of it.
BREAKING NEWS.... Kanye West interrupted Patrick Swayze's funeral today, to let everyone know that Micheal Jackson's funeral was better...
Link Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
i saw the thing about kanyes alledged outburst and it seemed like no big deal to me.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Alleged outburst? You mean he didn't actually have one?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
it didnt seem like an outburst to me.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Interrupting the acceptance speech of a young, new award winner, taking the microphone from her, and using the opportunity to argue she shouldn't have won the award isn't an outburst?
Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
Perhaps "outburst" is the wrong term. "Gross disrespect and impropriety" suit you better?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by scifibum: Perhaps "outburst" is the wrong term. "Gross disrespect and impropriety" suit you better?
Probly, but its about music videos so who cares?
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
People who are receiving an award for creative endeavors they have worked hard to create?
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:
quote:Originally posted by scifibum: Perhaps "outburst" is the wrong term. "Gross disrespect and impropriety" suit you better?
Probly, but its about music videos so who cares?
I'm going to find a way to send Kanye back in time to the precise moment you watched the final episode of Deathnote for the first time. You should be suitably chastened then.
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