You know! The Golden Guardian, the God of Thunder, the Living Legend of World War II and...um...two Bug People!
(Though personally, I'd drop Ant-Man and the Wasp. Why not Hawkeye? Or the Scarlet Witch? Heck, Monica Rambeau would be nice...)
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Well, of course they have to do the domestic abuse storyline, and they can't do that with Wanda. She's only good for pushing big ol' Reset Buttons.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: Well, of course they have to do the domestic abuse storyline, and they can't do that with Wanda. She's only good for pushing big ol' Reset Buttons.
Beating up his wife, creating Ultron...did Pym ever not screw up his super-hero career?
*sigh* I'm hoping Slott is truly restoring Wanda to the way she was before Bendis and Quesada decided to revive an ancient plot John Byrne cooked up for her twenty-plus years ago...
...come to think of it, they may not even be able to use Wanda. Technically, she started as an X-Men character.
Other characters I'd much rather see than the umpteenth "Janet and Hank put the FUN in dysfunctional" arc put to film:
Carol Danvers
She-Hulk
Mockingbird
T'Challa (but only if Christopher Priest's Evertt K. Ross is included as reluctant sidekick.)
The Vision
Hercules
The Beast (I wish...)
Wonder Man
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Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
What kind of baffles me about the whole Pym thing is that every comic fan I've ever talked to absolutely hates the storyline and thinks it's ridiculously over-played. And yet they keep beating that drum.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
He makes an easy "heavy" for the writers, plus he's never been a money-making character. Marvel has made sure the time Peter had a breakdown and hit MJ (!) has been conveniently forgotten. Because Spider-Man is one of their flagship books.
Pym, though? Even in the Silver Age, he was a career D-lister.
So, they keep returning to and reliving that darn panel. Because it makes for such deep, meaningful stories. Posted by Mocke (Member # 11963) on :
Think famous supers. It's already gonna have Iron Man and Hulk.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
The thing is, until the movie, while the general public may have vaguely known about Iron Man, I'd hardly call him a "famous" super-hero. That's partially why Marvel Studios is giving most of the founding Avengers their own films before they do the big team movie. They're re-building character awareness.
Posted by Mocke (Member # 11963) on :
Just so long as Sammy J shows up at the end of each one...
Posted by theamazeeaz (Member # 6970) on :
More superheros? Urk.
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
Marvel used Pym/GiAntman to illustrate 'roid rage at about the time steroid abuse (ie gaining size) became noticeably popular. Note that getting*small (ala the Wasp) didn't produce such psychotic episodes.
* Admittedly it did make SteveMartin a bit...errrm...eccentric.
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Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
I thought this thread was going to be about Uwe Boll.
Damn!
Posted by Ron Lambert (Member # 2872) on :
Peter Jackson is earth's mightiest director. His "Lord of the Rings" trilogy will never be equalled. At least he is the biggest director (though I hear he has lost some weight recently).
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
The title is a reference to the comic Ron.
Posted by Ron Lambert (Member # 2872) on :
I am not a comic. (Don't blame me, Xavier, you left out a comma. ) Anyway, what does a director have to do with a comic book, unless he is directing a movie based on some comic book? For that matter, there have been many comic book versions of The Lord of the Rings. Posted by Godric 2.0 (Member # 11443) on :
The Avengers are "Earth's Mightiest Heroes."
Posted by Ron Lambert (Member # 2872) on :
So, "mightiest director" is meant as a pun? Is that it? People who make such pungent puns deserve to have punitive measures taken against them.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ron Lambert: So, "mightiest director" is meant as a pun? Is that it?
Making a pop culture reference is not the same thing as making a pun. Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ron Lambert: So, "mightiest director" is meant as a pun? Is that it? People who make such pungent puns deserve to have punitive measures taken against them.
Puffy can do whatever he wants, he's a god!
Posted by Ron Lambert (Member # 2872) on :
I certainly would not mean to impugn Mighty Puffy for his arbitrary limiting what constitutes a pun. But I predict that divine justice may sentence him to spend his afterlife in Xanth, where he is eternally doomed to live in the world created by the fiction stories of Piers Anthony.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
That isn't arbitrary limiting, just noting that his usage isn't anything like what would be called a pun in common usage. The word pun is used for humor where there is an ambiguity of meaning, often based on sound. In his there is no ambiguity of meaning, it is a clear and direct reference. Normal usage wouldn't call it a pun at all.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ron Lambert: I certainly would not mean to impugn Mighty Puffy for his arbitrary limiting what constitutes a pun. But I predict that divine justice may sentence him to spend his afterlife in Xanth, where he is eternally doomed to live in the world created by the fiction stories of Piers Anthony.
The slogan of The Avengers comic is "The Earth's Mightiest Heroes". I made a reference to that in the title of the thread, as it looks like Favreau may direct the Avengers movie.
I have never seen cultural reference designated as a form of pun. Well, until your posts in this thread. Posted by Ron Lambert (Member # 2872) on :
Puns are plays on words. Some are more sophisticated than others.
Posted by Ron Lambert (Member # 2872) on :
While we are debating about puns, let me expand the field to something I have been told by Hebrew scholars constitutes an example of the kind of puns frequently used by God in the Bible:
quote:Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying, "Jeremiah, what do you see?" And I said, "I see a branch of an almond tree." Then the Lord said to me, "You have seen well, for I am ready to perform My word." (NKJV)
This loses in the translation. But you have to understand that in Judah at that time the Almond tree was called the "Wake Tree," because it was one of the first to blossom in the spring. God was using this as an implied pun, saying that just as a Wake Tree is early, so He will be early to perform His word.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Yes. Note that your quotation includes a play on words based on an ambiguity of meaning.
Have you tried looking pun up in a dictionary?
Posted by Ron Lambert (Member # 2872) on :
The meaning is not ambiguous. Otherwise the word-play would not work.
Dictionaries do not create anything, they merely reflect common usage, and change as the language changes.
My definition of the word "pun" appears to be broader than yours. But does that mean that my definition is too broad, or that yours is too narrow? And why are you being so adamant?
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
Ron, you're full of baloney. Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ron Lambert: Puns are plays on words. Some are more sophisticated than others.
A pop culture reference is not a play on words. You were obviously unaware of this reference. I'm not sure why you feel the need to cover...no one can be aware of all references.
Unless they have no life, like me. Posted by Ron Lambert (Member # 2872) on :
Puffy, your real name must be Oscar Mayer. And that's a PUN!
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