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The second expansion is sure to make things worse due to drastic changes in nearly every field (especially raids). Some people welcome the changes (if not completely), others contest them on the ground that they are dumbing down the game

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Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Um...?
 

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Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
 
All I can think of that would make that chuckle worthy is if Blayne feels the game is as dumb as can be already, and that it can't get any dumber.

Which is how I feel about some posters, and others who click on threads by said posters even though they know they shouldn't .
 

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Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
Well you think all MMORPG's are a waste of time equally so this might be hard to explain, but, within the MMO community there is the distinct impression that WoW is encredibly dumbed down and easy compared to any other MMO in existence with EVE-Online and Lineage II as "very hard" and WoW at the bottom of the mainstream pile of poo in terms of difficulty.

The idea then, that people in WoW could actually legitimately argue that they could dumb down WoW even more is hilarious with this in mind.

Not that what Blizzard is doing is without some merit, ie making earlier quests and raids more solo friendly as the vast majority of their player base is level 60+ making it extremely difficult on older server for newbies to find parties for the more difficult quests.


Note, I find it 2x times funnier to read TV Tropes site in Yahtzee's voice.

(directed towards Tom)
 

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Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
 
I played Asheron's Call....Loads of fun!!!!


I wish I could have my entire year of 10th grade back though....
 

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Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 

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This has happened numerous times with Dungeons And Dragons. First there was the change from 2nd Edition to 3rd Edition, then from 3.0 to 3.5, and now massive flame wars raging over the merits of the new 4th Edition of the game vs. 3rd/3.5. While other edition changes have had their holdouts, the change to 4th drew special rancor. Unlike previous edition changes, 4e replaces a thriving 3.5 fanbase. Further, the publisher seems to have lost interest in supporting open gaming. On top of this, it jettisons far more — and more iconic — sacred cows than any prior edition change, to the point of a Legacy Implosion-like effect.

* Things get even worse when you talk about individual campaign settings:
o Forgotten Realms fans are violently divided over the the "100 years later..." Time Skip.
o Eberron fans get into bloody wars over whether the setting should be allowed to move forward in time, and whether or not anything not written by Keith Baker "counts."
o Greyhawk fans are mostly super pissed that their setting never got a real book for Third Edition (and was dropped as the generic setting for Fourth). Anyone who's not super pissed is potentially inleague with the enemy.
o Planescape fans are divided over whether the Fourth Edition cosmology is boring and yet another slap in the face by Wizards Of The Coast, or worth looking at and trying to use for a "real" Planescape game.
o Meanwhile, Dark Sun, Spelljammer, and Dragonlance fans are still sitting in the dark arguing over who turned out the lights.
o Of course, with rumors that Dark Sun may be re-released for 4E, fans of that setting are quietly arming their flamethrowers and stocking up on napalm.
o Fans of Ravenloft have a minor point of contention as to whether their line of products was better with Wot C producing it or if the 3rd edition White Wolf sourcebooks were more worthwhile. Most put any disagreements aside with the simple thankfulness that it was reprinted at all. The Kargatane, who have published several internet supplements for the setting and whose members were leaders of the Ravenloft online community who could have swayed the issue one way or the other, were disbanded in October 2003, though several alumni then went on to write many of the White Wolf releases.

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The funnies
 

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Posted by Tara (Member # 10030) on :
 
It is fun...I thought of some of my own tropes, but as far as I know, there's no way to submit your own.
 

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Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
 
Dude, it's a wiki. How do you think the existing tropes got there? Magic?
 

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Posted by Tara (Member # 10030) on :
 
Oh, well there's also www.tropes.com

EDIT: And by that I mean, www.tvtropes.org
 

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Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
 
WOTLK *did* make the game a lot easier.

It's still not as easy as AOC though. That game is a joke.
 

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Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 

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with EVE-Online and Lineage II as "very hard"

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Originally posted by King of Men:
Dude, it's a wiki. How do you think the existing tropes got there? Magic?

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