I've been a fan of Captain Marvel since I was a little kid. I was really excited when not only was a film in development, but they cast a big name star like the Rock as arch-enemy Black Adam.
Why? Because of Warner Brothers now notorious edict that all their DC Comics super-hero films must be remade in The Dark Knight's image.
I loved The Dark Knight. But Captain Marvel is not Batman. Captain Marvel is the super-heroic equivalent of L. Frank Baum's Oz series. It's about adventure and wonderment, not psychotic murderers and despair.
Harrumph.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
That stinks. I was really looking forward to seeing it.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
I'd love to write this script. Someone let Warner Brothers know.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
Don't forget to drive Billy Batson insane and have Mary be a leather mini-skirt wearing murderess!
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
None of that happened. You're reading the wrong books. Stick with Billy Batson and the Magic of SHAZAM, and you'll be fine.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
I haven't been a fan of Kunkel's take on the characters. Partially because so many panels are walls of text, and partially because he seems to have an aversion to one-off stories. The Marvel Family work so -well- in one-off stories. Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
Thinking about it, Captain Marvel can work in dark stories...Mark Waid used him brilliantly in Kingdom Come as a symbol of how the innocent, fun super-heroes of the past were completely devoured and twisted by the Nineties anti-heroes who took over the world. (And the real life comic industry!)
And then there's the dark story where...um...where.
Well, the only dark story he's worked in was Kingdom Come. And I don't think Warner Brothers is ready to make -that- into a movie. Yet.
Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
quote:Why? Because of Warner Brothers now notorious edict that all their DC Comics super-hero films must be remade in The Dark Knight's image.
Go ahead and tell the movie studios I won't be going to see any more comic book movies, if this is the case. I still haven't seen "Dark Knight" all the way through, and the part I did see, the first 2/3rds, didn't appeal to me, honestly. If I don't see the conclusion for another 5 years, I won't be missing anything critical in my life.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
There's a great article in this weeks Newsweek about "anti-hero burnout." Since a major publication has acknowledge that what I have been saying for weeks is correct, I must be right.
But in all seriousness I'm sick of gray heroes. If they want to make them morally flexible than make their forays into the dark backfire on occasion rather than making them always come out having accomplished the greater good.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tstorm: Go ahead and tell the movie studios I won't be going to see any more comic book movies, if this is the case.
Keep in mind that there are some movies coming out based on comics that are not based on super-hero comics.
Like the recent Persepolis. Don't miss out on films like that. Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
Heck, even Frank Miller (the crazy, current Frank Miller, to boot!) did a rather touching defense of Captain Marvel as a pure, virtuous character in his extremely uneven TDR sequel, The Dark Knight Strikes Again. Keep in mind a few years later he's doing a comic where Batman tries to force Robin to eat rats and beats up Alfred.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
The GD Batman isn't so bad. It's the F Batgirl I have a problem with.
Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
Oh, I thought you meant Captain Mar-Vel.....
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
Isn't it Mar-Vell?
Posted by Foust (Member # 3043) on :
A dark Captain Marvel has already been done - seen the Alan Moore/Neil Gaiman series Miracle Man. Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
How can they see it?
The rights to MarvelMan/MiracleMan are such a tangled snarl that no one's been able to reprint the series in years. Back issues are extremely difficult to find in my area, as the lack of new trades mean most shops have been picked clean.
Posted by Sterling (Member # 8096) on :
Oof.
Okay, studio guys: take a look at Iron Man.
Now take a look at The Spirit.
The former is what can happen when you do a lighter superhero movie right.
The latter is what can happen when you do a darker superhero movie wrong.
Now mull that over for a while before you get back to whatever you're doing with Captain Marvel.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Puffy Treat: I was really excited when not only was a film in development, but they cast a big name star like the Rock as arch-enemy Black Adam.
I always thought of Sivana as the BRC's arch-enemy. I know Black Adam is like the "evil twin", but even so. I would have loved to have seen Armin Shimerman as Sivana.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
Sivana is the Marvel Family's most persistent enemy, but I'd say Black Adam and Mister Mind are the ones who actually give them a run for their money.
Sort of brilliant, making the ultimate Big Bad a tiny green worm.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
Caterpillar, really.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
The original comics called him an alien silkworm. The modern comics just call him an alien worm, period. I know Grant Morrison had the bright idea to have him become a cosmic butterfly in 52, but that didn't take. Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
thank you for introducing me to the tropes page. I'm hooked.
Posted by Foust (Member # 3043) on :
quote:How can they see it? [Frown]
The rights to MarvelMan/MiracleMan are such a tangled snarl that no one's been able to reprint the series in years. Back issues are extremely difficult to find in my area, as the lack of new trades mean most shops have been picked clean.
Sweet, sweet torrents.
Surely the publishers have made it repeatedly clear they no long wish to profit from these characters?
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
Not really. Many publishers are dying to profit from the characters, but no one can agree on who legally owns them.
Posted by Foust (Member # 3043) on :
quote:Not really. Many publishers are dying to profit from the characters, but no one can agree on who legally owns them.
Same thing.
Or, since no one knows who owns them, how could it possibly be theft?
Or, since "digital property" is an oxymoron, how could it be theft?
Get thee to isohunt and find Miracle Man. It's rocking good stuff.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
Same thing.
Lots of people wanting the rights to publish a character != Nobody wanting the rights to publish a character.
Or, since no one knows who owns them, how could it possibly be theft?
You bring up word "theft" here. You made an statement that nobody wants to publish these stories. That's incorrect. Why do you feel my correction is an accusation of theft?
Or, since "digital property" is an oxymoron, how could it be theft?
You're claiming that the Marvel Man/Miracle Man comic was created as a digital property?
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
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