Symptions of Subject: Hysteria, hyper ventilating, I know the subject smoked alot of marijuana, was given as far as I know "7UP" but appatently not, my roommate assumed its the date rape drug and the subject appears to be having a bad reaction possibly alergic.
Subject is still hyperventilating but not as much, much deeper breaths rather then the rapid shallow breathing of before.
Appears to be "scared/emotional"
After calmly assessing the situation by taking notes of the subjects symptoms I go to hatrack for advice should I call 911? My Roommate and the subject seems reluctant to, as far as I know the subject just appeared at our door in a bad state.
[ November 18, 2008, 02:56 AM: Message edited by: Blayne Bradley ]
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
New symptons from the subject, convulsions and what would appear to be minor delirium apparantly a bartender gave her the drink, doesn't surprise me, I've spoken to at least 2 other bartenders who do similar things.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Subjects emotional state has shifted to "crying"? I am not sure the clinical term.
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
She's convulsing and hyperventilating and is seeing things. Yes, call 911.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Call 911 NOW.
Posted by Elmer's Glue (Member # 9313) on :
Are you retarded blayne? Get off the computer and call 911.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Shutup Elmer your not the one thats here.
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
or even better, take her down to an emergency room yourself
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Blayne, seriously. Have you called 911 yet? Don't take her yourself. Call 911 right now.
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: Shutup Elmer your not the one thats here.
You're the one that's typing on a computer while a person next to you is on the brink of death... and you're criticizing him?!?
I'm sure she'll appreciate your haste in taking care of her. In the eleven minutes since you're post, she could have already been treated.
Maybe if you call 911 now you can get a game of Halo in before they arrive?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Alright Paramedics arrived fast.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
I do not appreciated being called retarded over a situation that doesn't concern me. I called as soon as I saw Tante's posted, the issue is A) My roommate was reluctant and B) the subject was reluctant. I said several times before posting "you should call 911" he refused and she refused. So I sought a second opinion Hatrack.
Anyways they arrived roughly 5 minutes before the "Alright" post. Man the subject is as dumb as a post "I don't want to go to the hospital I'm alright!".
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
Sorry if I sounded angry.
For future reference, if there is doubt whether you should call 911 or not, you should call 911. Error on the side of caution, if you will.
I've had 911 called on me as a result to allergic reactions of mine. Granted, I didn't need it and was very vocal about it, but in cases like that it's not about me. Others, such as yourself in such situation, find a great deal of comfort knowing that an expert will be coming to deal with whatever situation there may be. Better a medical professional make the decision than you, even if it wasn't necessary to take it to that level in the end.
ETA: If you make a post with the words "someone possibly dying" in the subject line, DAMN STRAIGHT it involves you.
Posted by Elmer's Glue (Member # 9313) on :
Well, I didn't call you retarded. I asked if you were. Slight difference.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Wow, my roommates first thought as hes leaving to go to the hospital with the subject, "imagine all the weed she will owe me now"
Talk about Priorities.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
I'm glad she's being taken care of. I wouldn't trust someone's judgment who is as impaired as that woman seems to be.
You did good, Blayne.
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
Alright, now that she's at the hospital... why do you keep calling her "the subject"?
Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
You need to get better roommates.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by JonHecht: Alright, now that she's at the hospital... why do you keep calling her "the subject"?
Because I am a sociopath.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
He was being chivalrous, John, and trying to protect her identity.
You're the hero here, Blayne.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nighthawk: For future reference, if there is doubt whether you should call 911 or not, you should call 911. Error on the side of caution, if you will.
I've had 911 called on me as a result to allergic reactions of mine. Granted, I didn't need it and was very vocal about it, but in cases like that it's not about me.
Amen. I had 911 called on me when I fainted (I was pregnant and the room was way too warm and crowded, and I couldn't get out quickly enough), despite my protests. I objected, and I happen to think calling 911 for a brief fainting spell (when the faintee is conscious and coherent) is overreacting, but even so I agree with Nighthawk.
Worst case if you call unnecessarily: a few people are inconvenienced. Worst case if you don't call: someone DIES who might have been saved.
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
I'd like to congratulate you on not simply taking a video and posting it on YouTube. That seems to be the thing to do these days. Getting her professional help is the way to go. Well done.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
It seemed like a combination of withdrawal and a allergic reaction at the same time, me with zero medical experience and 5 seasons of House to go on. I don't know why my roommate left her on the floor, she started on the bed, then went on the floor, then inched her way out of the room towards my room around the time I was on the phone insisting I hang up and that she doesn't want to go.
My opinion? I am highly skeptical of her story, it seems more like withdrawal or an overdose of something and doesn't want the "powers that be" (boyfriend, family, government, job, whatever) to find out. The subject was absolutely panicking whenever the hospital or her boyfriend was mentioned making her medical situation seemingly alot worse.
Not a pleasant evening.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tante Shvester: He was being chivalrous, John, and trying to protect her identity.
You're the hero here, Blayne.
You honor me too much.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Thank you for calling 911.
This is a friendly reminder (not directed at Blayne) that using "retarded" as a pejorative is considered offensive by many of us. Thank you.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by MightyCow: I'd like to congratulate you on not simply taking a video and posting it on YouTube. That seems to be the thing to do these days. Getting her professional help is the way to go. Well done.
I would have a witty reply but it would not be appropriate.
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
quote:...me with zero medical experience and 5 seasons of House to go on.
"So let's see... Lymphoma? No. Rabies? No. Parkinson's? No. Anthrax? No. Hodgkin's? No... Darn it, I'm sure we'll figure out what she has sooner or later! We're running out of pages in the reference book!"
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
That was the funniest thing I have ever heard. I kinda didn't want to go there but hell with it. Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
You forgot sleeping sickness and brain tumor.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
cancer but not cancer.
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
"Lupus." "It's never Lupus."
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
Did you try irradiating her entire body to kill her bone marrow and giving her a transplant?
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I am glad she is ok, and that you called 911. It was a learning experience all around, I am sure.
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
Most likely "amalydosis".
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
You do realise that its too early in the diagnosis for any of you to be right. We haven't hit the montage yet.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Pixiest: Did you try irradiating her entire body to kill her bone marrow and giving her a transplant?
SUBJECT EXPERIENCING SLIGHT GLOWING.
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
Coming into the thread way after the fact, I'd like to comment on the fact that communication is never complete. In this case, Blayne's language was intentionally detached, which gave him the appearance that he was "typing on a computer while a person next to you is on the brink of death." Given the incompleteness of the communication, that wasn't an unreasonable interpretation.
On the other hand, Blayne's explanation:
quote: I called as soon as I saw Tante's posted, the issue is A) My roommate was reluctant and B) the subject was reluctant. I said several times before posting "you should call 911" he refused and she refused. So I sought a second opinion Hatrack.
is perfectly reasonable, and it's also reasonable that he didn't bother to explain this in his initial posts because he had a more important agenda.
I agree with Tante:
quote:He was being chivalrous, John, and trying to protect her identity.
You're the hero here, Blayne.
But I take this opportunity to point out how often miscommunication or discommunication results in strong emotions, and in particular, Elmer's Glue's use of the word "retarded."
I'm not defending the word choice, but there are times when the use of strong language is needed to get a response. Bear in mind that being on the opposite end of the internet makes us impotent. We can only act through the person who is there.
Also, emotions are complex. Elmer may have intended an insult, but his instructions belie a different intent, which is to motivate Blayne to action. These two aren't inconsistent with each other.
In any case, I see it as an opportunity to point out that any time we argue, our purposes may seem to be at odds, but in all likelihood, our motivations, if not our emotions, are pretty much the same.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
Has no one concluded, as I did, that the subject was probably having a run-of-the-mill panic attack?
NAD, but I am an EMT, and with the symptoms she's presenting, (save what her vitals might tell you), it sounds like a panic attack precipitated by smoking a lot of canibus. Alternatives would be (and again, dependent on skin and pupil signs) MDMA, Cocaine, or Methamphetamine. This doesn't sound like a date rape drug- people don't often have panic reactions to barbiturates, as far as I know.
The weed is a major stumbling block for me- I'm predicting that there is no medical emergency. On that note though, I'd absolutely call 911 on the basis of these symptoms- a panic reaction can be a sign of something worse.
Edit: And as for "convulsions," I'm going to infer that Blayne is not describing gran mal seizure activity, but rather noticeable twitching and possible contortion of the limbs, which would fit with hyperventilation and panic. I saw a patient once who hyperventilated to such an extreme that he had lost all feeling in his hands and mouth- he was just having a panic attack though, and there was nothing physically wrong with him.
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
My first thought was that she got drunk and super high and flipped out. REEFER MADNESS!
Better safe than sorry though. Nobody needs alcohol poisoning or severe allergic reactions.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
No doubt, I'd still call 911 even if it was probably a panic attack- no reason to risk it.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Blayne, how is she doing?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Pissed off. She's not gonna like the 120$ paramedic bill. She's gonna blame us for it I bet ye.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Tell her to take a leap, and that the next time you will call the police rather than the EMT's, so avoid another bill.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: Pissed off. She's not gonna like the 120$ paramedic bill. She's gonna blame us for it I bet ye.
Psh, Canadians. Last time I called the paramedics for my dad (diabetic) the bill was in the thousands.
Posted by brojack17 (Member # 9189) on :
I thought Canada had free medical and that was what was so great about Canada? That and the hockey.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
And apparently, women over there wear snowboots all year round.
I read it on the internet.
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
Paramedics immediately take vital signs, and follow up with an I.V. bag of poutine.
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I kinda didn't want to go there but hell with it. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)