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Posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer (Member # 10416) on :
 
Would you search for your long lost ancestors? Would you watch the signing of the Declaration of Independence? Would you look into the personal lives of famous figures? Would you follow the life of Jesus? Would you attempt to isolate the invention of fire, the wheel, or tools? Pastwatch is basically the door to all sorts of information, and it can be used and abused.

So what would you watch in the past? What events tickle your fancy; what would you want to witness (the TruSite II seems high-quality enough to support 1080p [Taunt] ).
 
Posted by Threads (Member # 10863) on :
 
I would follow the lives of all the major prophets and see what really happened.

*I haven't actually read Pastwatch.
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
The life, times, and effect of Malcolm X.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
It's well worth reading.

I'd watch the interactions between homo sapiens and its cousins.
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SteveRogers:
The life, times, and effect of Malcolm X.

Oh! Good answer.

I'd follow Jesus, Muhammed, Buddha, all of them folks.
Then I'd write a book about it.
Then I'd follow every historical event EVER.
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
Neat question.

I would try to see my mother, who died when I was a baby.

After that, I would love to see ancient Ireland, Scotland, and Britain.

Next, I would travel to ancient Sumer.

I would change...nothing.
 
Posted by Joldo (Member # 6991) on :
 
I'd try and follow my family history, because it's been so concealed and twisted and rethreaded . . . if nothing else, it would be a fun challenge.
 
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
 
The final dedication of the Parthenon.
The battle of Gaugamela.
The building of Stonehenge.

And anything else that struck my fancy. [Smile]
 
Posted by The Reader (Member # 3636) on :
 
What, none of you would stop the Kennedy and Lincoln assassinations?

Heartless jerks.

I would observe the founding of every major civilization and then go to the 1986 AFC championship game and stop John Elway.
 
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Reader:
I would observe the founding of every major civilization and then go to the 1986 AFC championship game and stop John Elway.

D'oh! That reminds me - I'd go to the Ice Bowl. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
I'd witness the Exodus from Egypt and subsequent events at Mount Sinai. There was some special stuff going down around there!
 
Posted by Zenox (Member # 8987) on :
 
I'd watch religious events, follow my lineage, and observe important historical figures - mainly political/military geniuses and mathematicians.
 
Posted by Qaz (Member # 10298) on :
 
I would find out who really committed various crimes, living memory or not.

Either learn Aramaic and listen to Jesus, or more likely read translations from Aramaic experts. Certainly I'd want to watch his interactions with others.

Observe my own childhood, to get a new perspective on it.
 
Posted by porcelain girl (Member # 1080) on :
 
I would like to see how big the Great Flood really was.

I would like to follow Crazy Horse around. He was so solitary and mysterious.

I would like to follow the lives of both Jesus and the Buddha.

I, too, would track my family history and would love to learn about each ancestor. I would like to watch my mother's parents when they first met and started dating as young teenagers.

Man, there isn't a lot I *wouldn't* want to watch. I mean, aside from actual acts of brutality, almost everything on every continent is interesting to me. (The brutality is interesting, I just don't know how much I could watch.) Most people and places become fascinating the more intimately you know them.
 
Posted by porcelain girl (Member # 1080) on :
 
Oh, and dinosaurs. I have a thing for pterodactyls. ( I don't remember if that was possible...to follow before there were hyoomans.)
 
Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :
 
I don't think I'd be able to stop myself from watching Salome's Dance of the Seven Veils. For the, uh, historical and cultural aspects. Yeah.

Maybe follow the life of Siddhartha Gautama. And Rasputin. Then I'd go looking for Pan.

I guess I'd be looking for some sort of Answers. And thrills, of course.
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
So many things, I don't know how I would choose! After following my own family for a while, probably take some time watching some people in ancient Greece and Rome-- did those events really play out the way the state-sponsored historians say they did? And I would look for mythological figures-- Oddysseus, Arthur, people like that.

I'd spend some time figuring out what happened to the Anasazi, and then I'd go find out what's really the answer behind some of the conspiracy-theory inspiring events, like JFK's assassination.

Of course, someone else would probably already have done all this 'cause I'm not very imaginitive and I could just read their report. [Wink]
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
Oh, yeah, and I would totally go watch some really great concerts that happened before I was born. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Reader:
What, none of you would stop the Kennedy and Lincoln assassinations?

Heartless jerks.

Hey, if Sam couldn't do it, what hope do I have?
 
Posted by Sterling (Member # 8096) on :
 
I'd prove once and for all if Shakespeare was the author of the plays attributed to him.

It would also be interesting to search for King Arthur and see how much truth there might have been to the legends.

Oh, and I'd second the Pyramids (both in Egypt and in Meso-America) and Stonehenge, just because the question of exactly how they were built remains the subject of speculation.
 
Posted by AvidReader (Member # 6007) on :
 
I've got a thing for the history of the British monarchy. It'd be nice to get some perspective on guys who were only written about a couple hundred years after their deaths.

I'm also a little fuzzy on where different groups of settlers came from. I think it would be easier to get if I could see it in action.
 
Posted by Zenox (Member # 8987) on :
 
OH, also...
I would want to watch myself when I was younger. I've always thought one of the coolest things ever would be to have a conversation with yourself, at a different age, and this isn't far off.
 
Posted by Omega M. (Member # 7924) on :
 
I too would like to find out more about Shakespeare---not so much whether he wrote the plays, but how fast and with how much deliberation whoever the author was wrote them.

I'd also see whatever I could find out about Jesus and some other religious figures, though I think that in the world of the novel actual miracles are invisible.
 
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
 
"Hey, if Sam couldn't do it, what hope do I have?"

Lol, that is actually the last episode I watched.


1000th post well used.
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
First thing would be Jesus' life. Next thing would be the lives of all the major patriarchs in the Bible going back to Adam, assuming he was a real historical person. I would be all like "Abel, dude, look behind you!. [ROFL]
 
Posted by Javert (Member # 3076) on :
 
I, too, would check out Jesus to find out if he was a real historical person.

Then I would go back and watch the formation of Rome from the beginning. I'd need a few buckets of popcorn for that. [Smile]
 
Posted by Omega M. (Member # 7924) on :
 
We could also use it to be Peeping Toms on some of the great beauties of history, couldn't we? Did OSC say in the novel how long ago an event had to have taken place for the Pastwatch machines to view it?
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
It does say that it's supposed to only work for things a certain distance past, but there's a scene were a guy does the "impossible" and shows the devastated rain forests by looking back very recently (like 15 minutes or something).
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JonHecht:
"Hey, if Sam couldn't do it, what hope do I have?"

Lol, that is actually the last episode I watched.

20th anniversary con in 2009! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
 
Also, I'd check out that whole Trojan War thing. And see if that Homer guy was real.
 
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
 
I would want to go back and trace some of the great literary works, see what oral traditions and stories they stemmed from. Track Beowulf back to its origins, and the tales of King Arthur.

That would be [Cool] .
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Reader:
What, none of you would stop the Kennedy and Lincoln assassinations?

Those assassinations were probably the best things that ever happened to those two men. Particularly Lincoln. It turned him from a highly controversial and contentious figure into a genuwine Amurrican saint.

Actually, for that reason alone, I might actually stop Booth.

What I'd really do is check out Sinai and see if I really have to be Jewish. I'm sufficiently convinced to act on it, but certainty would be nice.
 
Posted by Architraz Warden (Member # 4285) on :
 
I can certainly see the attraction in tracing your lineage (I imagine backwards would be an entertaining way to watch that, and the best way to find your ancestors).

In the spirit of the Pastwatch program in the book, I think my personal project would be to track the history of particular pieces of land throughout human history. Obvious examples were ones as mentioned before (Sinai, Jerusalem, Rome). But, I think it would also be just as interesting to watch a random location, and see how many people passed by it, how many took the time to look at it, how many changed it for better or worse.
 
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
The Reader, the question posed in the OP was what would you watch, not what would you change. Not everyone who worked at PastWatch got a chance to actually go back and do anything, that was kind of a big deal.

I think I'd start with the conspiracy-theory stuff: JFK assassination, Roswell UFO crash, stuff like that. Actually, depending on the results of that second one I might get sidetracked trying to verify/debunk other alien/UFO reports.

--Enigmatic
 
Posted by The White Whale (Member # 6594) on :
 
I haven't read the book in a long time, so I forget if this is within the rules or limitations of the technology...


...but I'd want to go back and see early solar system and universe events (in time-lapse of course!) to get a better idea of how our planet came to be. I'd love to watch the birth of the sun, or how the moon got to orbit us, or what the asteroid belt was before it was what it is now, any big rocks to crash down on our planet, and when that big black obelisk came and taught our ancestors how to use blunt weapons. [Wink]

And I'd go back and see the first people to play bagpipes and uilleann pipes, because they're so freaking complicated.
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Because of the thread title order, I just saw this:

If you worked at Pastwatch, what events would you follow?
NBA Basketball

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Epictetus (Member # 6235) on :
 
I would like to track down Socrates and see what he was really like. Then I'd track down George Lucas and convince him that another couple of drafts of Episode I might be a good idea.
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
But in Pastwatch you can only watch, not interact (well, not unless you WANT to change your own existence and the world you live in.)
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
quote from Lisa--"Those assassinations were probably the best things that ever happened to those two men. Particularly Lincoln. It turned him from a highly controversial and contentious figure into a genuwine Amurrican saint."

It's always a little jarring when we actually sort of agree. I think that Lincoln had some fairly serious shortcomings as a commander in chief, and that those were demonstrated by how he handled the slave issue, as well as the fact that he directly ordered Sherman to burn Atlanta to the frequin' ground.

question for Lisa--Where does you anti-Lincoln bent originate, if I may make so bold?

[ December 04, 2007, 11:14 PM: Message edited by: steven ]
 
Posted by Eisenoxyde (Member # 7289) on :
 
I would want to follow Nikola Tesla's life. I'd also want to follow the Basque and learn about their origins.
 
Posted by porcelain girl (Member # 1080) on :
 
I want to track all the migrations to and from the American Continents pre 1492.
 
Posted by suminonA (Member # 8757) on :
 
If I worked at Pastwatch I’d like to know first how is it possible to time travel (even if it’s only information passing through). I think that would be quite interesting [Smile]

Beyond that, there surely are lots of interesting things and events to be witnessed in human history, and the ones that would clear debated points in nowadays “conflicts” would be on the top of my list. Many such events were noted above.

I’d mostly like to witness any “divine intervention” in action, if it were possible.

A.
 
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
 
God blocks divine intervention from being shown to Pastwatch, duh. [Wink]


I would watch an accelerated version of humanity. The history of the world part 10.
 
Posted by Lissande (Member # 350) on :
 
I would need to know what Richard III was really like and, as a corollary, what happened to the princes in the tower.
 
Posted by suminonA (Member # 8757) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JonHecht:
God blocks divine intervention from being shown to Pastwatch, duh. [Wink]

You see, if that were the case, and all the rest of the "information" were available using scientific principles, than the blocking itself would be "divine intervention" ! [Wink]

A.
 
Posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer (Member # 10416) on :
 
How could you tell? Would the pillar of fire have a black rectangle covering it up and the meteor that hit Sodom be pixelated?
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by steven:
quote from Lisa--"Those assassinations were probably the best things that ever happened to those two men. Particularly Lincoln. It turned him from a highly controversial and contentious figure into a genuwine Amurrican saint."

It's always a little jarring when we actually sort of agree. I think that Lincoln had some fairly serious shortcomings as a commander in chief, and that those were demonstrated by how he handled the slave issue, as well as the fact that he directly ordered Sherman to burn Atlanta to the frequin' ground.

question for Lisa--Where does you anti-Lincoln bent originate, if I may make so bold?

<shrug> I'm an Objectivist. The first time I heard that someone pointed out to Lincoln that the Constitution doesn't bar states from seceding, and he responded with, "It doesn't say they can, either", I realized that he was a thug and a bully.

Even during the feudal period, the right of removal was generally respected. Tyrant Abe couldn't even do that.

Since then, I've read books about him, and it's just appalling what he did to this formerly free nation. There were always blackguards who wanted to imperialize America, but he was the one who finally succeeded.
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
quote:
I'd also want to follow the Basque and learn about their origins.
Oooh, good one. And the Roma (Gypsies.)
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
The right of removal wasn't generally respected in the feudal period, it just usually wasn't possible to do anything about it. If the one being removed from had a larger army and no other pressing concerns, they certainly did disrespect it.
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
At least lip service was given to it. Abe enslaved a nation.
 
Posted by suminonA (Member # 8757) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer:
How could you tell? Would the pillar of fire have a black rectangle covering it up and the meteor that hit Sodom be pixelated?

Is this a serious question? If so, I'll give my argumented answer. [Smile]

A.
 
Posted by sylvrdragon (Member # 3332) on :
 
I'd go back and watch Humans evolve from microscopic organisms for the sole purpose of ending that other thread.

But seriously, I start by looking up what the US government is hiding in all the "Top Secret" zones like Area51 (not that I believe anything is being hidden there NOW, but maybe when it was first founded).

All the other mainstream stuff, I could just wait till someone else looked it up and wrote about it (hopefully with reference points so I could go back and see the highlights for myself).

Sadly enough, I think that if the technology were ever found to allow something like this, the public would never know about it; at least with the current state of the world. Too many powerful groups would stand to lose too much. From an atheistic point of view, I think religion would take the hardest hit of all, and despite not believing in it myself, I still feel that religion is a good and necessary thing for the majority of people, and plenty of others would share that opinion and prevent the general public from ever knowing about said technology.

About the limits on how far back you could see: There was no limit, but that was kept secret to all but a few. The supposed limit was 100 years.
 
Posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer (Member # 10416) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by suminonA:
quote:
Originally posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer:
How could you tell? Would the pillar of fire have a black rectangle covering it up and the meteor that hit Sodom be pixelated?

Is this a serious question? If so, I'll give my argumented answer. [Smile]

A.

The "How could you tell?" was serious, the fire and Sodom was a joke.
 
Posted by Omega M. (Member # 7924) on :
 
I thought the Pastwatch machines simply found no evidence of gods appearing to man; e.g., the movie of an alleged divine appearance might show a person talking into the air as though a divine being were there, but not the being itself (it would have existed, if at all, only in the person's mind). So in the case of Sodom and Gomorrah, we'd be able to see meteors coming down and destroying the cities, just as we'd be able to see any other meteor strike, but we wouldn't be able to hear God talking to Lot about it.
 
Posted by suminonA (Member # 8757) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer:
The "How could you tell?" was serious

Ok, here are my premises:
1) There is a device at the HQ of PastWatch that allows for viewing past events to be witnessed, (without giving the ability to affect the past, therefore creating no physical time paradoxes).
2) The device is working on known principles that are available to study and understand for the interested employees.
3) I work at PastWatch [Big Grin]

Now, from 3) and 2) together, I deduce that I have access to the “technical stuff behind the functioning principles” of the device, and therefore I’d study them to the best of my abilities.
From that knowledge, it would be possible to learn how to control the device in order to look for a specific historical event, in (past) time and space.
At that point, I’d make a list of my favorite “miracles” (Note that I call “miracle” any phenomenon that wouldn’t happen according to the laws of physics, unless some “divine intervention” was there to produce it) as described in the available scriptures.

Now, if I were to witness the “parting/crossing of the Red Sea”, and I saw another version of the facts from what there is written in the scriptures, such as no “miracle” was involved, there are two possibilities:

a) the scriptures I used were wrong and they recorded an “exaggerated version” of the event, so that particular event wasn’t a miracle, therefore isn’t relevant for my search, and I should look for another
b) the scriptures were right, and by some unknown effect, not in concordance with the known functioning of the device, the observation through PastWatch was altered, in such a way that the “miracle” wasn’t “there”.

Now, if b) is the case, then by definition the “altered observation” would be “divine intervention”, that is, a “miracle” in itself!

If a) were true, then I’d take my next favorite “miracle” and try to observe it. And if, by the same process, I get to the end of the list of miracles and never be able to witness any of them, then there would be these two possibilities:
a’) all the scriptures are wrong and there was no “miracle”, ever, to begin with.
b’) through “divine intervention” I was unable witness any miracles in past history.

Again, if b’) is true, then it (ironically) proves divine intervention by lack of it in all history. If a’) is true then the “negative result” means that I lost plenty of time to look for something that never existed, but at least I’ve exhausted all the options and found that all scriptures are wrong and/or exaggerating historical facts.

How would I know which one was really the case? I wouldn’t, as with all phenomena that are so disguised that we CAN’T know the truth about them, leaving the answer to the “faith” level, but it would help me decide what to believe on the matter of recorded “religion” and its reliability/authenticity, which would be worth the while spent at PastWatch.

You lose some, you win some.

A.

PS: if you are about to reply “Ha! So you admit you couldn’t tell!”, my answer would be : “In matters about which the others say that we are “prevented” to know by scientific methods the truth, my choice is on the side of skepticism, therefore I’d know there really is no such thing as “divine intervention”.
 
Posted by Seatarsprayan (Member # 7634) on :
 
I hope they never develop Pastwatch.

Because I'd point it towards my High School years and look at all the girls I knew. While they were showering.

C'mon, if there were no system of accountability, that's what everyone would be doing.

Be thankful there's no Pastwatch.
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
I really can't think of anything. I think my imagination's broke. Or my curiosity or something.
 
Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :
 
I would want to recreate the lost library of Alexandria, and other lost historical works. So many works of the Greeks and others have been lost.

If it worked more recently, I would resurrect lost movie prints.

I second Carrie on Troy and ketchupqueen on the Roma.
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
Assuming the device allowed it, I'd like to view life on other planets in our galaxy, or other galaxies, particularly intelligent life.
 
Posted by Sean Monahan (Member # 9334) on :
 
I think I'd initially be interested in researching all of history's most compelling mysteries: the identity of Jack the Ripper, what happened to Amelia Earhardt and Glenn Miller and Jimmy Hoffa, who killed the Black Dahlia, etc.

A lot of people mentioned following the life of Jesus. In particular, I'd be watching the tomb on Easter morning.

Then I'd go do that thing Seatarsprayan said about the girls I went to high school with.
 
Posted by Eaquae Legit (Member # 3063) on :
 
I would go and hunt down the original Hermes Trismegistus. Whoever he was, he was a genius.

And then I'd go and locate some mentally impaired medieval people and follow them around and make my dissertation the best ever.
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
(I've not read Pastwatch either :/)

EL, I have often wished to have such a tool to help me with my history essays, especially when a lack of information is making it necessary for me to pull ideas out of almost nothing. I was especially longing for this when studying Ancient Egypt. All the questions and shifty extrapolations... replaced by factual information.

I'm not sure how you would source such a thing though (Bernard de Clairvaux, Clairvaux, France; June 15th, 1149, 11:15am time at the Greenwich Meridian). Also, I imagine that it would merely complicate things. Instead of having one or two pieces of evidence, you'd have hundreds, all slightly different.

However, even seeing five minutes of a historical scene could revolutionize the perceptions of that historical period.
 
Posted by Danzig (Member # 4704) on :
 
First, I'd take a survey of the 1960's, focusing on the US. Then the 70's, and the early 80's, maybe until 1984, the year of my birth. If I was allowed to interact with the world I would party very hard, but if I couldn't I would visit a lot of concerts.

Next would be ancient Greece, from Homer's time (or even before) to Alexander the Great. That would take a while.

Lastly, I would watch English history from the Restoration to about 1800. Actually, I'd probably continue into the lives of the Romantic poets from there.

I'm sure by the time I got done with those events I would have added more to the list.
 
Posted by theCrowsWife (Member # 8302) on :
 
I would go watch the beginning(s) of agriculture to see how much was luck and how much was human cleverness. Then I would probably try to find every culture that managed to farm the same land for generations without ruining it, and see what principles I could learn from them. I'd also like to watch the development of the scythe in Europe, because it revolutionized agriculture at the time.

--Mel
 
Posted by The Reader (Member # 3636) on :
 
Originally posted by Enigmatic:
quote:
The Reader, the question posed in the OP was what would you watch, not what would you change. Not everyone who worked at PastWatch got a chance to actually go back and do anything, that was kind of a big deal.
I had forgotten that part. Sorry.

Of course now I want to see more than just the founding of every major civilization. I would like to see the Exodus from Egypt and observe the pre-civilization humans and how they coped. I think it would be fascinating to watch Mankind figure out how to manipulate the world just as it realizes it can.

Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Hey, if Sam couldn't do it, what hope do I have?
As far as I know, that was the only large-scale thing he attempted. I haven't seen as much of Quantum Leap as I would like to, but from what I have seen (correct me if I show that I indeed know too little about QL), he could only influence relatively small historical events. Stopping the Kennedy assassination was just too big, which does bode ill for the rest of us after all.
 
Posted by sylvrdragon (Member # 3332) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Morbo:
I would want to recreate the lost library of Alexandria, and other lost historical works. So many works of the Greeks and others have been lost.

I don't think it would be worth the effort. The information that was lost was advanced FOR IT'S TIME, but I'm sure it's all hopelessly obsolete by now. The tragedy of the loss is that we had to spend so many centuries recreating that knowledge, hence putting humanity back several hundred years.

We would be living like the Jetsons right now if that library had survived. (or we'd all be dead, you know... whichever)
 
Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :
 
sylvrdragon, you're correct that ancient science and to a lesser extent math is obsolete, but lost philosophy, history and literature works would still be very important.
 
Posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer (Member # 10416) on :
 
Their math and science aren't wholly obsolete. The Pythagorean Theorem, the quadratic formula, etc, were all very important to modern day mathematics. Even calculus is rather old, considering how fast science goes forward. Most of the ancient scientific discoveries that are obsolete are those concerning astronomy (the Sun revolves around the Earth, all heavenly bodies are perfect, etc) or disease (leeches aren't the best treatment).
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Reader:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Hey, if Sam couldn't do it, what hope do I have?
As far as I know, that was the only large-scale thing he attempted. I haven't seen as much of Quantum Leap as I would like to, but from what I have seen (correct me if I show that I indeed know too little about QL), he could only influence relatively small historical events. Stopping the Kennedy assassination was just too big, which does bode ill for the rest of us after all.
I recommend Netflixing them. All 5 seasons are on DVD.

I don't think it was the only major event. In fact, it could be argued that it was no more "big" than any of the other lives he saved. Anyway, he Leaped, so he had fulfilled his task for that Leap -- it just wasn't what he thought it was.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer:
or disease (leeches aren't the best treatment).

They actually are, for some things.
 
Posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer (Member # 10416) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Originally posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer:
or disease (leeches aren't the best treatment).

They actually are, for some things.
I knew someone would eventually say that. [Smile] I am aware that leeches are still used for certain situations, but it is altogether an obsolete technique when you have medicines that are much better built to target the "bad blood" than are leeches.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
It's not "still"; it's again. Leeches have been found to be MORE useful in some cases (like after reattaching amputated limbs) than any other treatment.
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
Here be the wiki on medicinal leeches. Yar!

Wait, why am I a pirate?
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
That really has precious little information. I recommend several other sources -- actual books! [Eek!]

Start with this one.
 
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Morbo:
sylvrdragon, you're correct that ancient science and to a lesser extent math is obsolete, but lost philosophy, history and literature works would still be very important.

History would be rather obsolete if we had a Pastwatch machine! As for philosophy, meh. Any idea that hasn't been rediscovered by now can't have been worth much. Literature could be interesting in an antiquarian sort of way, but I must say I'm prepared to live without it.
 
Posted by The Reader (Member # 3636) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Originally posted by The Reader:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Hey, if Sam couldn't do it, what hope do I have?
As far as I know, that was the only large-scale thing he attempted. I haven't seen as much of Quantum Leap as I would like to, but from what I have seen (correct me if I show that I indeed know too little about QL), he could only influence relatively small historical events. Stopping the Kennedy assassination was just too big, which does bode ill for the rest of us after all.
I recommend Netflixing them. All 5 seasons are on DVD.

I don't think it was the only major event. In fact, it could be argued that it was no more "big" than any of the other lives he saved. Anyway, he Leaped, so he had fulfilled his task for that Leap -- it just wasn't what he thought it was.

And yet another reason for me to start using Netflix piles on. With this writers strike, I just might suscribe.
 
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*whisper* Netflix Netflix Netflix

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