So. I'm a senior in high school. Actually, more accurately, I'm a super senior. I moved from Utah to Georgia last January. I would have graduated this May from my small Utah high school. However, in Georgia, credit requirements are much different. I was told that I would need to stay a fifth year. I accepted this, and am now enrolled in my fifth year of high school. However, it turns out that the credits they had me scheduled for were not quite the credits I needed in order to graduate. There was much schedule changing and tweaking and it came out that the only way I could graduate from a Georgia high school was to take a very full schedule, drop all electives, and even take a zero period class. I balked. and began to research another way. I discovered that the college I wished to attend--the University of Kansas (for special ed., what I am DEFINITELY majoring in)--would accept me with a GED. And with good ACTs and SATs, I feel pretty confident I would be admitted. I discussed this with my parents, we decided it was probably my best option.
If you got through all that, I congratulate you and thank you. Here's the last part, where it's a little less complicated.
In December I'm dropping out of high school (parents want me to at least finish out the semester), taking the GED, and... and... well, that's the thing I don't yet know. My original plan was to go back to Utah, where there was a school for severely disabled students that I had interned and volunteered at. I would work there, live with friends, save some money, and be ready to go to Kansas in the summer. (Because you see I have to gain my Kansas residency before I can go to school) Problem: I have to be 18 to work at the school. I won't be 18 until May.
So, wise friends of Hatrack what would you do? Should I move back to Utah, find whatever job a seventeen year old with a GED can and scrap by? Stay in Georgia, and work at the nearby grocery store? Move to Kansas and scrap by there? I should probably add that I am visually impaired and so cannot drive. Is there a third option I am not aware of?
Any advice is greatly appreciated!
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
Sue the school for hindering your graduation; live high on the three million dollars a sympathetic jury will no doubt award you.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Stay at home and work at the grocery store. You'll be able to save more money that way, because it will be cheaper than living with friends.
Other things you should consider:
In order to pass the Georgia GED, will you need to know the things they are trying to get you to take this year in school? Would it be a good idea for you to take some extra time without working to study for it without taking it?
How long do you need to be a resident in Kansas in order to qualify for in state tuition? It might be a full year. I'm assuming in state tuition is why you want to establish residency.
Posted by Nethy (Member # 6462) on :
ElJay,
I'm pretty confident that I'll pass the Georgia GED. I've taken some practice tests and done well. So I don't really know if studying more will help at all.
And yes, I need to be a resident a year in order to qualify for in state. Yes, in state tuition is why I need residency.
Posted by DDDaysh (Member # 9499) on :
Do you have any family in Kansas?
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
What about taking the GED in Kansas? Would that be advantageous, or is it just because you need the GED to work in the mean time?
AJ
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
If you have someone to stay with in KS, I'd say go there. If not, stay home. Don't go to Utah, at least not before you're 18-- the job market there is not good for people under 18 (so I've heard.)
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
So why wait 'til May? Move in December when you finish the semester, get a job there, and then you can start school Spring semester 2008.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Transfer your residency to Kansas ASAP, hopefully by just changing your mailing address to a family members address. That can establish residency.
Stay at home, and save money. I can't explain how important that is, or how much easier it is to save while living at home.
Or move in with family (or friends if they're willing to let you) in Kansas and start working.
[ September 11, 2007, 07:45 PM: Message edited by: Kwea ]
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
I don't know how much they differ from state to state, but I know a few people who took the MN GED and said it was ridiculously easy. If you have good ACT and SAT scores, I'm betting you won't have much trouble with passing a GED.
Sounds like you already knew that from the practice tests, of course.
--Enigmatic
Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
Did you check to see if the Kansas school offers any type of out-of-state tuition waiver? That's what I did when I moved right before my freshman year of college. I got it based on my high school grades (the requirement wasn't high.)
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
I don't have any good advice to add to the things people have already said. I just want to wish you luck with whatever you decide!
Posted by Zenox (Member # 8987) on :
You are totally going to move to Kansas, cause that's where I live. ^_^
Eh... I'd probably say don't go back to Utah, try and move forward.
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
My first concern is that you won't be 18 until May but you want to move in December. Because you're legally a minor until May, you cannot enter into contracts, including a lease. Therefore, you need an adult someone to live with and who will be legally responsible for you until your birthday, whether it's Utah or Kansas.
I think your best bet is to stay in Georgia with your family, work somewhere locally to save money for school and living expenses until some time after your birthday. Once you're 18, move to Kansas to establish your residency for college.
I hope it all works out for you!
Posted by Nethy (Member # 6462) on :
Thanks for all the advice!
Couple things: I do have family in Kansas, yes. Aunts, uncles, grandparents. I wouldn't be able to stay with any of them on any kind of long term basis though, due to their current circumstances. But I also have family Utah, and friends who have offered already to share an apt.
Also, I have to ask...is starting college mid year anything like starting at a new high school mid year? I've done that, and though I'm sure it's not the worst thing in the world, I don't know if I want a repeat experience yet.
And also ALSO, in order to qualify for gaining residency, am I correct in saying you have to be 18 in order not to just be associated with your parents residence? Would I have to be emancipated if I were to start trying to gain my Kansas residency in December?
Sorry this is so complicated, I appreciate all you guys have to say!
Posted by Nethy (Member # 6462) on :
Goody--totally posted before I saw your post!
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
quote: In order to pass the Georgia GED, will you need to know the things they are trying to get you to take this year in school? Would it be a good idea for you to take some extra time without working to study for it without taking it?
Without telling us what it was, my sixth grade teacher gave us the math portion of the NY GED. If I remember correctly, I passed with flying colors.
I wouldn't be too worried about passing, unless it has changed a bunch in the last 10 years, or if the test is considerably harder from one state to the next.
Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
quote:Transfer your residency to Kansas ASAP, hopefully by just changing your mailing address to a family members address. That can establish residency.
That's not enough to establish residency in Kansas. The state of Kansas is not known for generosity toward out-of-state residents. There's more than one requirement, and you need to check the rules very carefully.
On a good day, I could recite to you all the rules, but I'm not having a good day today...sorry. Contact the admissions office at KU and ask them about residency requirements. Then get a second opinion and compare the two. Good luck.
(This comes from a lifelong Kansas resident, who works at a community college and has known a few out-of-state friends who were surprised at the residency requirements.)
Posted by MattP (Member # 10495) on :
The GED is crazy easy, everywhere. If you got decent grades through, oh, 6th grade, you can probably pass the GED. If you've got most of a high school education, you'll breeze through it.
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
Tstorm is right in that it takes more than a mailing address to establish residency.
Save as much money as you can, and check and see if you can start any junior colleges while you're waiting to turn 18 and move. That way, you can knock out some requirements before you even get to Kansas and junior college is much, much cheaper than a university. Plus, if you maintain a great GPA in your junior college courses, you may qualify for a transfer scholarship or get out-of-state tuition from your university of choice.
Posted by Will B (Member # 7931) on :
You could take college classes in GA or UT. In GA, if you maintain a B or better, you get the Hope Scholarship.
Posted by TheBlueShadow (Member # 9718) on :
quote:Originally posted by Will B: You could take college classes in GA or UT. In GA, if you maintain a B or better, you get the Hope Scholarship.
In Georgia if you maintain a 3.0 or better you qualify for HOPE, but there's also the residential requirements.
There were some basic changes starting with the class of '07 but I'm not particular on what they are.
I think the residency depends on whether or not a person is considered in-state through the USG.
quote:An independent student who has established and maintained a domicile in the State of Georgia for a period of at least 12 consecutive months immediately preceding the first day of classes for the term shall be classified as “in-state” for tuition purposes.
So I suppose it would depend on how long it had been since Nethy had moved to Georgia. Definitely an option, if you qualify, to get core classes out of the way.
- current HOPE recipient
Oh, and for those of you just passing through, buy a lottery ticket while you're here. Every little bit helps.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tstorm:
quote:Transfer your residency to Kansas ASAP, hopefully by just changing your mailing address to a family members address. That can establish residency.
That's not enough to establish residency in Kansas.
That's not enough to establish residency (for purposes of in-state tuition and/or state financial aid) for any state I know of.
Worse news: I don't know if it's true in Kansas, but in most states, a minor's residency is generally assumed to be the same as their parents'. You may not be able to establish Kansas residency -- whether you move or not -- until you are 18. Especially since many of the things that can be used in most states to establish residency (registering to vote, getting a lease or mortgage, etc.) cannot be done until you are 18.
quote:For students under eighteen or not emancipated, residency is determined by the parents.
And wow, Kansas is REALLY strict:
quote:The following circumstances, standing alone, ordinarily will not constitute sufficient evidence of a change to Kansas residence: voting or registration for voting in Kansas; employment in any position normally filled by a student; lease of living quarters in Kansas; a statement of intention to acquire residence in Kansas; residence in Kansas of a student's spouse; KS vehicle registration; acquisition of a KS driver's license; payment of KS personal property taxes; or continuous enrollment in a KS postsecondary educational institution.
Oh, one other thing. There are residency requirements for the GED too. And you cannot take the test while enrolled in high school.
quote:Details about local eligibility requirements may be obtained by calling (800) 62-MY-GED.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote:And wow, Kansas is REALLY strict...
This is because people are lining up for miles to become citizens of Kansas.
Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
Yeah, that about sums it up. You have to be:
1. A registered voter. 2. Live in the state for a full year. 3. Register your vehicle (pay taxes on it) in Kansas. 4. Get a Kansas driver's licenses. 5. I'm not sure if you actually have to be employed and paying income taxes to the state, or not.
Good luck.
Posted by School4ever (Member # 5575) on :
By the way starting college mid year is nothing like starting high school mid year. Each semester is completely independant of every other semester, and your classmates will also change with each semester and class, especially with the general ed classes.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
quote: The state of Kansas is not known for generosity toward out-of-state residents.
Unless, of course, you're an "illegal immigrant" in our fine state, and then you get full rights AND in-state tuition! (yep).
Welcome to Kansas! While the University of Kansas is not my favorite place (even though I attended there for awhile) it definitely is one of the best for the field you are choosing.
I will tell you this much -- depending on your SAT and ACT -- you may not have to "graduate" high school at all! My son skipped from high school to college at 15 based almost entirely on his SAT score.
(They can chose to 'overlook' things if you're a good student and they want you)
If you need any help while you're here, let me know. (although I know nothing about you, other than your age).
Farmgirl (my other son got a GED, if you want info on that!)
Posted by Nethy (Member # 6462) on :
Farmgirl--actually, I would love to hear about your sons experience with the GED. Many people I tell my decision to have an immediate negative response. Has he experienced the same stigma? Also. hope this isn't too personal, but what part of Kansas are you in? I'm originally from Olathe/Overland Park area, but have family in Wichita and in some township (don't remember the name) somewhere by Eudora.
Tstorm--If I leave in January to Kansas and become emancipated, I will be living there, have a Kansas ID (no driving=no vehicle), and have a job. I think this is enough, and obviously I'll become a registered voter as soon as I turn 18. Do you think so?
This thread has been really, ridiculously helpful. Thank y'all a ton.
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current HOPE recipient