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Posted by Chris_Johnston (Member # 10582) on :
 
I was just reading John Scalzi's The Ghost Brigades, in which a squad of Special Forces soldiers (grown in vitro like the "tanks" in Space: Above and Beyond) are going through their first days of training after being decanted...

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On the fifth day, during which the afternoon was spent in an informational session about the disposition of the human colonies and their relationship with other intelligent species (which was to say, bad all the time), the 8th critically evaluated pre-Colonial era speculative fiction and entertainments about interstellar wars with aliens. The verdicts were reasonably consistent. The War of the Worlds met with approval until the ending, which struck the 8th as a cheap trick. Starship Troopers had some good action scenes but required too much unpacking of philosophical ideas; they liked the movie better, even though they recognized it was dumber. The Forever War made most of the 8th unaccountably sad; the idea that a war could go on that long was almost unfathomable to a group of people who were a week old. After watching Star Wars everyone wanted a lightsaber and was irritated that the technology for them didn't really exist. Everyone also agreed the Ewoks should all die.
Two classics stuck with them. Ender's Game delighted them all; here were soldiers who were just like them, except smaller. The main character was even bred to fight alien species like they were. The next day the members of the 8th greeted each other with the salutation ::Ho, Ender,:: until Brahe told them to knock it off and pay attention.
The other was...


 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
What was the other one?
 
Posted by Chris_Johnston (Member # 10582) on :
 
A fictitious title, "written" closer to the year depicted in the book.
Here's the rest of the paragraph...
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The other was Charlie's Homecoming, one of the last books before the Colonial era began, and one of the last books, therefore, to be able to imagine a universe other than what it was—one where the alien species humanity would meet greeted them with a welcome instead of a weapon. The book was eventually adapted into a film; by that time it was clear it wasn't science fiction, but fantasy, and a bitter one at that. It was a flop. The members of the 8th were transfixed by both the book and film, captivated by a universe they could never have, and one which would never have had them, because they wouldn't be needed.

 
Posted by RunningBear (Member # 8477) on :
 
They turned down Starship Troopers!!!!

Did the author even read the book?!

AAAAAAAUGGHHH!!!!


Maybe I should consider that this is not reality.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
I have little problems imagining somebody from a drastically different culture having troubles wading through and disliking Heinlein's soapboxes in that book.
 
Posted by RunningBear (Member # 8477) on :
 
Well, that is true.

I guess I don't consider them as such because I agree with more than a few of them.

I suppose a lot of people from this culture have problems with his beliefs.
 
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
 
I'm surprised Star Trek didn't get a nod.
 


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