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Posted by Barabba (Member # 10322) on :
 
Has anyone considered that this new type of movie making, which was first seen in the Star Wars episodes 1-3 and Sin City, would be a better fit for the fictional scenes in Ender's game, than a Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings type of portrayal?

Everytime I see a movie that is visually exciting, I wonder if it would complement Ender's story. I believe the trick to Ender's movie will not be on big special effects, but a balance between the story and visual appeal.

Is this type of visual effect too much? Or can a balance be found?
 
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
...*...

Aren't all the scenes in Ender's Game fictional?
 
Posted by Barabba (Member # 10322) on :
 
Yes.
 
Posted by Eaquae Legit (Member # 3063) on :
 
Things involved in the star wars prequels should not be mentioned in conjunction with Ender's Game.
 
Posted by Barabba (Member # 10322) on :
 
So is that a "No" to the style of digitally creating the sets? Or does the old fashion way, with props, have more appeal?
 
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
Oh, so digitally created environments are what you were referring to.

Just FYI: The Star Wars prequels and Sin City were not the first to use such environments.

As far back as TV shows like Fraggle Rock one can find sets used that exist only in CGI. [Smile]
 
Posted by Boothby171 (Member # 807) on :
 
A number of the sets will have to be created digitally.

The space battles, for one. Actors will be superimposed over digital backgrounds for that. These days, they don't even have to be sitting in a complete cockpit set (a la "Sky Captain").

Interior shots in the Battle School will likely be supplemented by CG shots--sooner or later, I expect (and I don't know if you know just how much I expect it...or why) that we'll see kids running along the curved corridors in the habitation rings--they faked that nicely in the space station in "2001", and created full sets for the Discovery ("2001") and the ship in "Mission to Mars," but those were unrealistically small-diameter artificial gravity environments.

The Habitation rings in EG will have a radius of nominally 160m...no one's building a full ring, "for real."

And, of course, the Battle Rooms. Those are going to be layers upon layers of composition, both live action and digital backgrounds.

Don't worry, though. You'll love it. I personally guarantee it.

--Steve
 
Posted by Barabba (Member # 10322) on :
 
Thanks Steve. I'm a bit worried because of Wolfgang being the director. Out of all the movies below, none of them left me saying "Wow". How is he going to make EG make people say "Wow".

-Poseidon (2006)
-Troy (2004)
-The Perfect Storm (2000)
... aka Sturm, Der (Germany)
-Air Force One (1997)
... aka AFO
-Outbreak (1995)
-In the Line of Fire (1993)
-Shattered (1991)
-Enemy Mine (1985)
 
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
The Neverending Story made me say "Wow".
 
Posted by Barabba (Member # 10322) on :
 
Strider,

If I were to see previews for The Neverending Story now for the first time, after the Lord of the Rings, Matrix, and Star Wars...I'd say, hey what's with the big Dog Puppet? I'd wait for the video instead of seeing it at the movies.
 
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
CGI FX=High Quality Film, I guess.

Which means Doogal is a better film than E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial! [Frown]
 
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
 
Troy left me saying "Wow" in a number of ways:

"Wow, Brad Pitt is smokin' hot."

"Wow, how can you disregard millenia of literary tradition?"

"Wow, that sucked."
 
Posted by Boothby171 (Member # 807) on :
 
Poseidon made me saw, "Wow," as in, "Wow...the guys at Warner Brothers must have been pissed that NBC went and scooped them on this story no more than 4 months ago...on television, no less."

So, if "Poseidon" was his closing piece in his "storms at sea" trilogy, then "Ender's Game" would only be his #2 piece for space opera. What will be #3, I wonder...?

Besides, we still have to get through "Bullit."
 
Posted by Earendil18 (Member # 3180) on :
 
I think Christopher Nolan would be a better fit for this film, but that's just me.
 
Posted by RunningBear (Member # 8477) on :
 
I think christopher walken should be graff.

Don't ask where that came from, but it would be so weird.
 
Posted by Barabba (Member # 10322) on :
 
Balance Puffy Treat, balance. No extremes.

How about the Wachaowski Brothers? Their movies tend to have a fair balance of both CGI and story.

Second pick would be the director for Narnia.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Narnia was good, but it wasn't spectacular, I'd pass on Adamson, or whatever his name was.
 
Posted by Mighty Robot Lords (Member # 9228) on :
 
I think that it would be really cool to see a Tim Burton or Terry Gilliam or Alfonso Cuaron Ender's Game.
 
Posted by methosk (Member # 8592) on :
 
Hmm, What about Gabor Csupo. Tho mostly known as a Writer/Producer of Children shows (such as Rugrats, Simpsons, Duckman, Rocket Power, etc.), if your looking for someone who can pull off Lots of CGI, aswell as Great plot and story, I think he did a rather good job with Bridge to Terabithia.
 
Posted by Barabba (Member # 10322) on :
 
I don't think I'm looking for lots of CGI, but I do think it will be required to pull off the required special effects.

I haven't seen Bridge to Terabithia, yet. You may be right methosk.
 
Posted by Will B (Member # 7931) on :
 
I think the nonfictional scenes in Ender should be done from file footage.
 
Posted by Boothby171 (Member # 807) on :
 
Yes, definitely use actual footage for stuff like the "Scathing of China"
 


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