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Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
George Lucas wouldn't fib...would he?
 
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
 
[Spoiler]
Marion is Indy's twin sister.
[/Spoiler]

No... wait... scratch that.

Harrison's 64 years old... Well, if anyone can survive a movie like that, it's him. The question will be how convincing he's going to be. If he looks and act like an average 64-year old adventurer would, I'd rather not see that.
 
Posted by fiddle_stix (Member # 9941) on :
 
quote:
Harrison's 64 years old...
could be quite comical
 
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
We know from The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles that Indy lives at least into his early 90s.
 
Posted by General Sax (Member # 9694) on :
 
I thought this was scrubbed?
 
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
 
I'll see it. Harrison Ford rules. As will at 95, when he can't move.
 
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Puffy Treat:
We know from The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles that Indy lives at least into his early 90s.

Well, he's immortal now, isn't he?
 
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
 
Not really, in order to be immortal, he could never pass the seal. That was "the price of immortality."
 
Posted by ricree101 (Member # 7749) on :
 
So, is this the one that we find out how the holy grail's immortality really comes from midiclorians? Or that Hitler is really Indy's father.
 
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Reticulum:
Not really, in order to be immortal, he could never pass the seal. That was "the price of immortality."

I'm going to have to re-watch that then. Because my understanding was that the GRAIL couldn't pass the seal or "really bad things" would happen.

Guess it's a big gray area. Don't know how much they'll milk that. It's not like Lucas has ever used voodoo, half-baked explanations for mystical events...
 
Posted by ricree101 (Member # 7749) on :
 
I'm pretty sure that it was only the grail that couldn't leave. Didn't his father get a drink from it and leave later on?
 
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
 
Yes, but its both. If the grail left, the place would tumble, and if you didn't continuously drink from the grail, you'd not live forever. Which could mean that if they got the grail past, and escpaed, they could have lived forever.
 
Posted by Occasional (Member # 5860) on :
 
"Indiana Jones and the Search for the Lost Retirement Portfolio"

Synopsis:

When Indiana Jones' lawyers discuss his retirement program, they forget where the paperwork is filed. Desperate to no longer teach full time and have enough money to continue traveling, he goes on the search for his lost information. Along the way he battles scheming lawyers, his reluctant university superiors, and unscrupulous IRS agents. It is a battle for his future and a race against the clock of time.

Rated PG for some language, but not much else other than viagra related dialogue.
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
I have mixed feelings. I love the original three movies. However, if the script is as good as Lucas says it is, this movie has potential. And I already bought the trilogy box set. What am I supposed to do now?
 
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Reticulum:
Yes, but its both. If the grail left, the place would tumble, and if you didn't continuously drink from the grail, you'd not live forever. Which could mean that if they got the grail past, and escpaed, they could have lived forever.

Is all this explained in a "director's cut" of some sort that I've missed? Or is it elaborated on in the LucasArts video games?
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
My thoughts exactly...
 
Posted by Avatar300 (Member # 5108) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SteveRogers:
I have mixed feelings. I love the original three movies. However, if the script is as good as Lucas says it is, this movie has potential. And I already bought the trilogy box set. What am I supposed to do now?

Given the Star Wars prequels, isn't Lucas' opinion on a script the last thing you'd want to consider? Does he even know what a good script looks like?
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
That's a fine point.
 
Posted by Alcon (Member # 6645) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Avatar300:
quote:
Originally posted by SteveRogers:
I have mixed feelings. I love the original three movies. However, if the script is as good as Lucas says it is, this movie has potential. And I already bought the trilogy box set. What am I supposed to do now?

Given the Star Wars prequels, isn't Lucas' opinion on a script the last thing you'd want to consider? Does he even know what a good script looks like?
I'm gonna go ahead and second that. After the prequels I don't trust Lucas to write a children's cartoon. Let alone another Indiana Jones movie. If someone else doesn't come in and kick him in the arse and rewrite everything for him, I'll probably skip. I have no wish to have the Indy universe shattered for me in the same way Lucas managed to utterly destroy the Star Wars universe.
 
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
 
Yeah, well, I just watched the prequels yesterday - I and II, that is, with plans to watch III tonight. Why, you ask? My son got Star Wars Battlefronts II for the Xbox this Christmas and has become fascinated with the Star Wars universe.

I have now decided why we were so disappointed with the prequels. They weren't written for us. They were written for six year old boys. Because six year old boys LOVE them.

But I gotta hand it to my girls, they did me proud. First the 14 year old just looked at me and said "Can this dialogue get any worse?" And all three girls were quick to call Count Dooku Saruman and then mock him.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
Has anybody else noticed that Harrison Ford has sucked in pretty much everything he has done this century? I don't know what has happened, because he was such a gifted actor before (IMHO) but it's like he's a step too slow now. The best he can do, as he did in Firewall, is snarl and act protective of his family. But any range or subtlety is gone.

Say . . . that reminds me . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9GwtRsOYSI

WARNING: Mild language
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
It's the Callista Flockhart thing. She sucked his soul out through his nose.
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
Pretty sure Lucas didn't write the script he simply reviewed it. Sure he perhaps changed something, but with Spielberg there it should be kept afloat IMO.

Ill watch it regardless of how bad it is because they have given me 3 movies I absolutely LOVE.
 
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ricree101:
So, is this the one that we find out how the holy grail's immortality really comes from midiclorians? Or that Hitler is really Indy's father.

That's LOTR by George Lucas

BTW, it appears that Stallone has proved that even very old action stars can make *decent* follow ups in their sixties. I haven't seen Rocky VI yet though...
 
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
quote:
Indiana Jones 4: The script has been finalized!
Worst. Subtitle. Ever.

--Enigmatic
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
According to IMDB, the title may be Indiana Jones and the Ravages of Time.
 
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Enigmatic:
quote:
Indiana Jones 4: The script has been finalized!
Worst. Subtitle. Ever.

--Enigmatic

[ROFL]
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
You all liked the first three Indiana Jones movies, which Lucas created, and the original Star Wars, which Lucas created, and American Graffiti was very popular.

That's seven movies that few people complain about. Toss in the prequels and we get 10 movies, with a 30% Scorn Rate. Why do the 30% get more weight than the other 70%?

He's not directing it, he's not actually writing the script, and Steven Spielberg is a major part of it. Lucas haters shouldn't be allowed to watch anything he's involved with. Might teach you a lesson about prejudging.
 
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
I love Lucas. As long as "He's not directing it, he's not actually writing the script", those two things would have been the two best things to happen to the prequels.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Agree on the scriptwriting. Disagree on the directing. Most every attack I see on the prequels is the writing, I seldom see anything substantive pointed out wrong about his directing.
 
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
While I think the script is definitely the weaker of those two, I also think the directing could have been better. Or maybe I'm just tainted by the fact that Empire is the best movie ever and Lucas didn't direct it. But you're right, all the immediate things that come to mind are dialogue related. As well as just story choices that are frustrating, which aren't related to directing at all.
 
Posted by Avatar300 (Member # 5108) on :
 
quote:
That's seven movies that few people complain about. Toss in the prequels and we get 10 movies, with a 30% Scorn Rate. Why do the 30% get more weight than the other 70%?
For me it's because the prequels are the most recent things he's done, along with all the crap he's done to the new releases of the original trilogy. I mean, a Star Wars universe in which Han doesn't shoot first is not a Star Wars universe I want to live in.

Second, I really liked the Indiana Jones movies, and I'm really looking forward to the new one because I know Lucas didn't write it, and isn't directing it. My original comment was 80% joke, in that he didn't write the script, but also that I halfway believe he doesn't know what a good script looks like.

Given all that, the huge success of so many of his projects means that Lucas is doing a lot of things right.

In conclusion, Libya is a land of contrast. Thank you.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by ricree101 (Member # 7749) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Avatar300:
quote:
That's seven movies that few people complain about. Toss in the prequels and we get 10 movies, with a 30% Scorn Rate. Why do the 30% get more weight than the other 70%?
For me it's because the prequels are the most recent things he's done, along with all the crap he's done to the new releases of the original trilogy. I mean, a Star Wars universe in which Han doesn't shoot first is not a Star Wars universe I want to live in.

I agree with you here. It isn't the amount of bad material he has put out. It's the fact that in between the time he made the "good" movies and when he made the Star Wars prequels, something seems to have changed. No matter how good his early movies were, the past decade or so has given us a lot of cause for concern.

Still, I'll reserve my judgment until it is out. After all, I had such low expectations for the new Rocky, and it turned out pretty good.
 
Posted by Eaquae Legit (Member # 3063) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Enigmatic:
quote:
Indiana Jones 4: The script has been finalized!
Worst. Subtitle. Ever.

--Enigmatic

[ROFL] [Cry] [ROFL]
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
I'll say it again -- the George Lucas which created those beloved movies was abducted by aliens in 1992 and replaced by a defective android.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
*sigh*

I so wish we'd gotten to play that mafia game.

I can't help but feel I put too many constrictions, or otherwise came across as heavy-handed or something.
 
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
 
At first glance, I thought the thread topic said "The script has been fictionalized!"

Needless to say, I was confused.
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
quote:

In conclusion, Libya is a land of contrast. Thank you.

Nice Simpsons reference.
 


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