[ September 11, 2006, 02:46 PM: Message edited by: Puffy Treat ]
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
Noooooooo! Next thing we know they'll be making films after ST: Voyager! With ALL the actors in! :shudder:
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Give the poor man a break. He should have quit the role before the series ended.
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
There's still no info, either.
Posted by andi330 (Member # 8572) on :
the link doesn't work.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
I want a DS9 movie.
Sisko Returns Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
I'd love a DS9 moive. I'd want Jadzia Dax to be in it instead of Ezri, though. I figure that a well placed subspace anomaly, resulting in an eddy in the space/time continuum would probably do the trick. Oh, or maybe she could just pilot the Rio Grande out of the wormhole, oblivious to the fact that she had been split at some earlier point, and had been in some kind of suspended energy state or something while the alternate Jadzia came through the wormhole and eventually died.
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
So, it's a see-who-we-can-get-then-write-a-story-around-their-characters thing?
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
Darn, I was sort of looking forward to Data meeting Spock and Kirk when they were at the academy together.
I did read though that Leonard Nimoy's agents were contacted by paramount to see if he was at all interested. If the whole Kirk/Spock at the academy pans out, having it as a flash back would be better in my opinion. Maybe having Spock visiting Kirk's grave at the beginning of the movie(or even better, trying to bring him back), with him remembering how they first met.
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Yes. It'll probably be something along the lines of "In the future where Janeway is dead, Tuvok and 7 of 9, travel to Deep Space 9 where Jadzia Dex has been reincarnated by Q in a bet with Picard to see who would win in a fight, the crew from Enterprise or the crew from The Original Series."
I for one am excited beyond words.
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
"Maybe having Spock visiting Kirk's grave at the beginning of the movie, or even better trying to bring him back, with him remembering how they first met."
Um... Spock believes Kirk to have been vaporized in a red ribbony thingy. Picard brought him back, and then buried him. Which is what I love reminding fans of The Original Series, is that Picard buried Kirk.
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
I need to see a movie with the 7 of 9 and Jadzia Dax romance played out, and if anyone links to dirty fan fiction so help me you'll be seeing the inside of the brig for the next hundred duty shifts!
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Hmmm.... Jamie does have a friend who could totally write that scene.
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
If your going to bring back Jadzia, scrap 7 of 9 and bring back Kes to.
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
quote:Originally posted by T_Smith: "Maybe having Spock visiting Kirk's grave at the beginning of the movie, or even better trying to bring him back, with him remembering how they first met."
Um... Spock believes Kirk to have been vaporized in a red ribbony thingy. Picard brought him back, and then buried him. Which is what I love reminding fans of The Original Series, is that Picard buried Kirk.
I'm not huge on TOS, but I would assume somehow Spock found out about Picard bringing him back and digging his grave.
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
quote:Originally posted by Stephan: If your going to bring back Jadzia, scrap 7 of 9 and bring back Kes to.
There's no reason all three couldn't get to know one another Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Kes! That's her name! I was trying to think of that yesterday...........
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:Originally posted by MyrddinFyre: So, it's a see-who-we-can-get-then-write-a-story-around-their-characters thing?
Yes. It is a Star Trek thing.
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
You're right, I should have known better than to expect otherwise Posted by PUNJABEE (Member # 7359) on :
Why would Data be in a movie about Kirk and Spock at the academy?
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
The Kirk and Spock in the Academy thing is a just a rumor, based on a screenplay Paramount decided to pass on.
The actual plot of the new Star Trek film, characters featured, etc. has not been revealed.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Never liked Kes, the little snotty thing. Seven of Nine was way cooler than Kes.
Remember that episode where Kes was all in a bunch because she killed a roomful of houseplants?
Seven of Nine was Borg, man! She killed, like, planets and stuff. And she'd strut afterwards, in her catsuit and 4-inch heels, all attitude and cool.
And didn't you all want to just smack Neelix when he cooed over her, "Sweeting..."
They might as well just called each other "Shmoopy" and been done already.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote:Originally posted by PUNJABEE: Why would Data be in a movie about Kirk and Spock at the academy?
Uh, for the money?
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Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
No kidding! The film's a prequel to the original series. Here's another news flash: Patrick Steward won't be reprising his role either!
Posted by PUNJABEE (Member # 7359) on :
quote:Originally posted by Puffy Treat: The Kirk and Spock in the Academy thing is a just a rumor, based on a screenplay Paramount decided to pass on.
The actual plot of the new Star Trek film, characters featured, etc. has not been revealed.
Regardless it's going to be a prequel. Have you not see the poster?
If it's a prequel - and judging by the version of the StarFleet insignia it's going to be a movie with the older series as a background - why would Data be in it?
Posted by PUNJABEE (Member # 7359) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tante Shvester:
quote:Originally posted by PUNJABEE: Why would Data be in a movie about Kirk and Spock at the academy?
Uh, for the money?
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Why would the character be in a prequel in which he didn't exist?
/DUH Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
Time travel!
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Posted by PUNJABEE (Member # 7359) on :
quote:Originally posted by neo-dragon: Time travel!
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Done before, twice actually in the same series.
/duh
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
Third time's a charm?
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
duh duh DUH duh. duh duh DUH duh DUUUH!
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
If it's a prequel - and judging by the version of the StarFleet insignia it's going to be a movie with the older series as a background - why would Data be in it?
Ah, you've been listening to T'Pol and the Vulcan Science Council on how "time travel is impossible" again, haven't you?
Anyway, the teaser images uses and older StarFleet insignia, but that could mean anything. Until Abrams and Paramount reveal the actual synopsis and confirm/deny casting rumors, all we have is speculation.
Edit: Spelling error corrected.
[ September 11, 2006, 08:58 PM: Message edited by: Puffy Treat ]
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
How old is Data anyway?
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Well, he did travel back in time to Old San Francisco, where his head was severed, then brought back to the future to get reattached to the body. So, his head, at least, is pretty old.
It is hard to figure on ages when you time travel as much as these guys do.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Kes?! ew. I prefer grown-up women.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Neelix does have a bit of the pedophile in him, no?
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
For a species that only lives, what, 8 years, she was pretty old.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
So if you go to the pediatric cancer ward and molest kids, it's not illegal? Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
Wasn't this to be a prequel? Of course Data isn't going to be in it if that's the case! I don't see any other NextGen people signing on...
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
Rumored. As in, there is no official confirmation. Keep in mind IMDB listings are just what people report in, which may or may not be factual.
Abrams is on the record as saying the "prequel" rumors are not quite accurate.
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
Ewww, I can NOT see Matt Damon as Kirk. No way no how. I really hope that rumor gets flattened.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
quote:Originally posted by Noemon: I'd love a DS9 moive. I'd want Jadzia Dax to be in it instead of Ezri, though. I figure that a well placed subspace anomaly, resulting in an eddy in the space/time continuum would probably do the trick. Oh, or maybe she could just pilot the Rio Grande out of the wormhole, oblivious to the fact that she had been split at some earlier point, and had been in some kind of suspended energy state or something while the alternate Jadzia came through the wormhole and eventually died.
Unfortunately both the eddy in space/time continuum and the doubled energy being suspended in subspace have both been done to replicate characters before. I think they should come up with new ST ways of reincarnation- like "The search for Spock" finding Data inside B-4.
Oh, BTW, the Rio Grande is the only real choice, because its the only runabout that doesn't get wantonly destroyed every month.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
BTW again, didn't EVERYONE involved in ST swear up and down and sideways that Star Trek was finished? I believe there was even an article in Rolling stone called Requiem for The Enterprise or something? Patrick Stewart said that he was glad, that it was time for it to be over? Oh, I know it won't end as long as there is some money and a little creative energy in it... but really, the last few films were so hackneyed.
Posted by Amanecer (Member # 4068) on :
quote: Never liked Kes, the little snotty thing. Seven of Nine was way cooler than Kes.
BLASPHEMER!!!!
Seven of Nine was nothing more than an excuse for a skin tight outfit filled with big boobs. Kes had interesting powers that she didn't understand, a sweet disposition, and potential for even more exciting plot lines.
*Throws stones at all who have positive things to say about Seven of Nine*
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
They ditched Kes because she was the weakest character in the series. The actress was only 19 when the show started after all, and the few episodes she starred in were boring! Gah, the tediousness of those episodes, saved only sporadically by the doctor.
Posted by Bella Bee (Member # 7027) on :
While I want to see a DS9 movie as much as the next person - come on, Sisko's ending up in the wormhole was just asking for some sequelly goodness - I just don't think enough people know or care about that series to make a successful movie out of it. And 'successful' is what the franchise needs most right now if it is ever going to survive. If it's a movie with good acting, lots of explosions, and some humour (and maybe even a plot) people will actually go and see it.
I don't think I care what or who it's about at this point, as long as it's a Good Movie. For fans as loyal as Star Trek's have been, it would be nice to see them get what they deserve. Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: Unfortunately both the eddy in space/time continuum and the doubled energy being suspended in subspace have both been done to replicate characters before. I think they should come up with new ST ways of reincarnation- like "The search for Spock" finding Data inside B-4.
I think that you have more confidence in Trek's unwillingness to recycle plot elements than I do.
quote:Oh, BTW, the Rio Grande is the only real choice, because its the only runabout that doesn't get wantonly destroyed every month.
Yup.
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
quote:Originally posted by Icarus: Kes?! ew. I prefer grown-up women.
When she let her hair down later on, she looked pretty grown up to me. Plus at the time I was around 15 or 16, so it worked for me.
[ September 12, 2006, 09:48 AM: Message edited by: Stephan ]
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
quote:Originally posted by Amanecer:
quote: Never liked Kes, the little snotty thing. Seven of Nine was way cooler than Kes.
BLASPHEMER!!!!
Seven of Nine was nothing more than an excuse for a skin tight outfit filled with big boobs. Kes had interesting powers that she didn't understand, a sweet disposition, and potential for even more exciting plot lines.
*Throws stones at all who have positive things to say about Seven of Nine*
When they first showed previews introducing Seven as member of the crew I quit watching the show in disgust, for exactly the reasons you say you dislike her. Wasn't exactly hard; Voyager pretty much sucked at that point, and struck me as a huge mess of wasted potential. At some point I was somewhere where it was on, and was surprised to find that Jerri Ryan was actually a very skilled actor. I think that she was brought on primarily for sex appeal, but her character ended up being one of the best things about the show, and she turned in excellent performance after excellent performance. In a lot of ways I think that she carried that show.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
quote:Originally posted by Bella Bee: While I want to see a DS9 movie as much as the next person....I just don't think enough people know or care about that series to make a successful movie out of it.
I don't think I care what or who it's about at this point, as long as it's a Good Movie. For fans as loyal as Star Trek's have been, it would be nice to see them get what they deserve.
I agree completely, on both points.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote:Originally posted by Amanecer: Seven of Nine was nothing more than an excuse for a skin tight outfit filled with big boobs.
Sometimes, that's enough.
Posted by Amanecer (Member # 4068) on :
quote: I think that she was brought on primarily for sex appeal, but her character ended up being one of the best things about the show, and she turned in excellent performance after excellent performance. In a lot of ways I think that she carried that show.
I do think Jerri Ryan is a skilled actress. I've seen her in other things and she always performs her roles with grace. However, I do not like Seven of Nine. You say she carried the show, but in my mind her character took over the show. Every episode started to be about about the Borg, Seven's past, Seven's present, etc. I got so sick of Seven. All other characters and plots were forced to the background, and when they did have plots they all too frequently had to do with Seven (The Doctor liking her, Janeway's power struggles with her, etc.). While there were interesting aspects of Seven's character, I don't think they were interesting enough to warrant such domination of the show. For this reason, I suspect that the sex appeal was the much bigger issue. But of course YMMV.
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