I just finished this book at 3AM last night and I can't express how terrific this book draws a conclusion to the epic stories of Hyperion and Endymion. If any of you have read Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion and not moved on to the two Endymion books, you are missing out. I still am filled with elation at how everything turned out.
Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
I honestly believe this thread was directed at me. Ok, ok, I'll finish the series!
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Yay for Hyperion!
Love that series .
Posted by Ramdac99 (Member # 7264) on :
quote:Originally posted by Valentine014: I honestly believe this thread was directed at me. Ok, ok, I'll finish the series!
Once you do you will be glad you saw this thread and even more glad thet you followed through and finished the series. Trust me.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
I have forgotten what happens. I do remember liking the series, though. I enjoy any travel/adventure story, especially if it's SF.
Posted by Ramdac99 (Member # 7264) on :
I was worried about Raul for a while there. nothing like time travel to put a twist on things Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
I thought this had something to do with Mardi Gras and the Sig Eps.
-pH
Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :
Primal, how could you forget that ending?
*spoiler*
It is a beautiful and very sweet ending. It works especially well because of the pain and jealousy Raul had suffered when he thought that his love was with someone else.
Posted by Architraz Warden (Member # 4285) on :
quote:Originally posted by pH: I thought this had something to do with Mardi Gras and the Sig Eps.
-pH
Out of curiosity, how did that conclusion come about. Bells in my head went: book, poem, mythology.
And yes, the Hyperion / Endymion series was a particularly enjoyable read. Has anyone else found that the two Endymion books strongly parallel the Matrix movies? Or is that just a bizzare coincidence on my part?
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
quote: And yes, the Hyperion / Endymion series was a particularly enjoyable read. Has anyone else found that the two Endymion books strongly parallel the Matrix movies?
I'm not remembering any parallels. Can you elaborate, please?
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
By the way, if you like Dan Simmons' sci-fi, I strongly encourage you to give his 'horror' a try: Carrion Comfort and Children of the Night are both excellent, but my favorite, and my favorite Dan Simmons book, is The Hollow Man.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
<shrugs> I read a lot. Plots tend to mingle in my imperfect memory. I'm sure if someone would give me some sort of hint that's not amazingly vague, I'll remember.
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
quote:Originally posted by Architraz Warden: Out of curiosity, how did that conclusion come about. Bells in my head went: book, poem, mythology.
I live in New Orleans. Endymion is something that happens tomorrow. The Sig Eps are a frat that sell wristbands to get into their parade-watching area, which features beer and the ever-coveted Porta Potty.
-pH
Posted by johnsonweed (Member # 8114) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ramdac99: I just finished this book at 3AM last night and I can't express how terrific this book draws a conclusion to the epic stories of Hyperion and Endymion. If any of you have read Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion and not moved on to the two Endymion books, you are missing out. I still am filled with elation at how everything turned out.
I have been thinking of finishing the series.
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
The Hyperion/Endymion series is one of my favourites.
*SPOILERS*
One thing that I felt was a bit annoying though is the way Simmons changed events and facts from the first two books in the last two. How many times after something is revealed to not mesh with the first two would Raul say, "But doesn't it say in the Cantos..." to which Aenea responds with something to the effect of, "That's just what Uncle Martin thought was true", or "Uncle Martin had to embellish some points". I thought it was a bit of a cheap cop-out for Simmons to be able to fudge with his own continuity by blaming the narrator. I recall rolling my eyes a few times because of it. Also, the parallels between Aenea and Jesus are less than subtle. Other than that, it's a great series!
*END SPOILERS*
A while back I read that there were plans for a series of movies based on the books. Has anyone heard anything about that?
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
It would be on his website. I know one or two of his books have been optioned for movies.
Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
I finally finished the series and....was so impressed with the ending that I quickly reread both Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion right after. I enjoyed the series the first time, but reading it a second time was a whole new experience. I understand so much more (which of course leads to greater enjoyment). I will be thinking of these books for weeks to come. I think I may pick up Hollow Man next. I tried to read it once but my attempt failed. I love the concept but it started a little slow for my taste.
*squeal* I really loved this series!
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
What Primal Curve said.
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
I don't know. I thought the second two books were average sci-fi. However, the first two are in my top 10 favorite sci-fi novels. Probably also in my top 20 fave books ever. The first two are almost perfect. I literally wouldn't change more than 2 or 3 words. Hyperion, and Fall of Hyperion are pure genius. Hats off to the Dan-man.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Crap!
Now I find out that you're a Simmons fan, steven. I guess I'll have to upgrade you from ****ing Idiot to Frustratingly Obtuse.
It's an improvement.
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
Crap. Now I have to downgrade my opinion of myself from "merely average" to "slavering idiot".
It's weird when those we love to hate share opinions with us, isn't it? Posted by AvidReader (Member # 6007) on :
Ok, I get that Hyperion is wonderful. What's it about? (Spoiler free, please.) Also, is it very violent or have a lot of sex? I generally steer away from that sort of thing.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
I'll let someone else try and tell you what they are about, but I will answer this:
quote:Also, is it very violent or have a lot of sex?
It has a large amount of both, actually. There is a war going on, so of course there will be violence. Plus the Shrike isn't exactly a pacifist . He's a 9 feet tall demon covered in blades, and they are not for show.
In the first book, there is only a lot of sex in one of the stories, but it is a pretty large part of that story.
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
I don't remember the sex.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
You must not remember the Kassad chapter then. That was about 40% sex, 40% violence, and about 20% of both at the same time .
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
I wouldn't call that a lot of sex. It does have some sex, but it's by no means at all the focus of the book. The same with violence. It is violent, but it doesn't glorify it.
I made a thread here a while ago about the beautiful book that is The Rise of Endymion. It's been a long time since I've felt the way that book made me feel. Definitely one of my favorite books of all time, possibly my favorite sci-fi book (sorry OSC).
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
I don't know. I think the first two are great no matter what mood I'm in. I can feel myself in the world he talks about. That's only partially true in the second two books...although some of the scenes on the Ice world in "Rise of...." almost make me want to go there and fight/eat the Ice wraiths.
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