I bought a new printer and I was thinking of what could be the first thing I printed from it. Well, I decided to print the following:
quote: I want a man who loves me and is willing to do anything for me, no matter what, when or where. That is what I want and what I am looking for. I will not settle for anything less.
I showed it to Deb (Nellie Bly), and she said, "You are going to die alone." She laughed and said to my other room mate, "Aren't I right?" The other girl, Sonya, said she would rather not say anything but she says that when she is siding with Deb and does not want to hurt my feelings.
I don't get it though, why did she laugh? I know that man is out there and I am going to find him no matter what. I actually found it mildly disrespectful and hurting that Deb would think that way, she really did mean what she said.
Posted by ambyr (Member # 7616) on :
It does seem a triffle, err, hyperbolic. But then, hyperbole and other literary devices are time-honored tricks when it comes to talking about romance, so that's hardly a flaw.
Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
Sounds like she was making a joke meant to be a cut on men, not you. Though I don't really undertand the appeal of someone who would do anything, no matter what.
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
She was probably feeling cynical about men. Or maybe it's because of the "no matter what, when, or where"?
A man who will do anything reasonable and necessary for your well-being, provided that you are willing to do the same for him, and that you both understand about communication, compromise, give-and-take and WORK in a relationship, is not a bad thing to aim for.
However, if you are looking for a slave for your every whim, that would give me a giggle, too!
So there's my take. Is Nellie Bly going to weigh in with what she really meant? I doubt she meant that she really believes you will never find anyone to be happy with, but rather that you need to make sure your expectations are realistic.
Posted by clod (Member # 9084) on :
Who knows why people laugh? Subjectivity is a poor defense. We yawn when others yawn, laugh, when others laugh, and chomp when others choose to bite.
or sting.
or stink.
or string-along in a stinging stink-athon.
What matters is thus: I have the pen. You have the maw.
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
quote:I want a man who loves me and is willing to do anything for me, no matter what, when or where
I see the funny in two parts:
1)Someone that obedient probably won't be someone that you can trust to make decisions for himself without your input.
2)If the union is to be equal, you would have to be equally obedient. Would you like being in a romantic relationship where total obedience is expected of you?
Posted by clod (Member # 9084) on :
*kicks ladydove in the junk*
Posted by clod (Member # 9084) on :
*winces*
Eee! ooh! ahh!
*turns away*
Posted by 0range7Penguin (Member # 7337) on :
I would do anything for love....but i wont do that.
-i always wondered what that was. SOmeone should really ask meatloaf some time.
Posted by estavares (Member # 7170) on :
I can see why you enjoy being a Queen on your other thread. *giggle*
Love is a two-way street, and such an expectation for your man to drop whatever he's doing to serve you will never happen. If he did, you'd never respect him. If you expect this, you'll never get it, but you CAN find someone who puts your welfare before anything else, and considers your feelings and opinion on many things. That's part of a loving, committed relationship.
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
quote:Originally posted by 0range7Penguin: I would do anything for love....but i wont do that.
-i always wondered what that was. SOmeone should really ask meatloaf some time.
I thought it had something to do with sharing his soda. At least, that's what television told me.
Anyways, I agree with others. If you find a guy who really WILL do anything for you no matter what, chances are you'll get bored. I mean, it's fun if when you say "jump" he says "how high," but if he's constantly catering to your every whim, you'll get sick of it.
-pH
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
If you want to see how ugly things can get one one member of a relationship expects the other to do whatever they want, look at this:
If you find someone who will do anything for you no matter what, you will have either found a sociopath or someone who is so evil that they have in essence lost their soul.
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
If I find someone who will unquestionably do whatever I say, I will probably send him to the store for feminie products more embarassing than tampons right before kicking him to the curb.
...I think that makes me a sadist.
-pH
Posted by clod (Member # 9084) on :
*rolls eyes*
Posted by Altáriël of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
I didn't mean it literally, of course. I also want a man with enough brain cells to think for himself. What I mean with all that is that I basically want a man who would do anything to make me happy. I would do anything to make him happy too. With "anything" I mean within reason, of course. I don't want someone who literally would kill for me.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Well then you should have said that.
quote:I want a man who loves me and is willing to do anything for me, within reason. That is what I want and what I am looking for. I will not settle for anything less.
That seems very reasonable. I wish you well and good luck.
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
What mph said.
(I think that's twice in a week I've agreed with mph...this could be trouble!)
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
quote: I don't want someone who literally would kill for me.
I do. But I mean, not someone who would kill at my whim. And not someone who'd be some kind of creepy serial killer like, "Oh, he looked at you cross-eyed. And that other one, he called you a skank. So I ripped his throat out for you. Here, do you want a piece of his esophagus?" That would be bad.
-pH
Posted by clod (Member # 9084) on :
*hands ersomniac a loaded pistol*
go on now! fire away!
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
<shoots clod in the face>
Much better.
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
How sweet, erosomniac! You killed for me.
-pH
Posted by clod (Member # 9084) on :
*removes mask*
*smiles sweetly*
Ain't love grand?
Posted by Altáriël of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
*eyes dented junk- makes plans for next time clod's junk is exposed*
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Alt, I suspect it was the absence of anything like the words "within reason" that prompted her response. After all, as written, you're basically asking for a slave rather than a lover.
Posted by Shepherd (Member # 7380) on :
Dieing alone is underrated.
Posted by Juxtapose (Member # 8837) on :
quote:But I mean, not someone who would kill at my whim.
Why not? I don't see anything even remotely wrong with this. C'mon! NINJAS!? Fine, ass-kicking hottie ninjas? That's cool by me. Anyone who says otherwise is scared of power. Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
Ugh, mph, that document you linked to is hideous.
Oh my.
*shudders*
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Thanks ever so much, imogen.
I had missed that before.
*goes to get chemically hosed*
[ February 21, 2006, 10:42 AM: Message edited by: rivka ]
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
quote:Originally posted by Juxtapose:
quote:But I mean, not someone who would kill at my whim.
Why not? I don't see anything even remotely wrong with this. C'mon! NINJAS!? Fine, ass-kicking hottie ninjas? That's cool by me. Anyone who says otherwise is scared of power.
Pirates > Ninjas.
My first boyfriend after I went to college was a hottie jiu jitsu instructor. They're SO overrated.
Now, swashbuckling hottie pirates...I could go for that.
-pH
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I agree. Pirates > ninjas. Old-school.
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
Not only that but pirates can burn CDs
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
quote:Originally posted by pH:
quote: I don't want someone who literally would kill for me.
I do. But I mean, not someone who would kill at my whim. And not someone who'd be some kind of creepy serial killer like, "Oh, he looked at you cross-eyed. And that other one, he called you a skank. So I ripped his throat out for you. Here, do you want a piece of his esophagus?" That would be bad.
-pH
Oh. Now she tells me. Gosh darn it!
*Hides piece of esophagus*
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
LadyDove, that was an excellent post, by the way.
Posted by Juxtapose (Member # 8837) on :
quote:Now, swashbuckling hottie pirates...I could go for that.
That's only because Johnny Depp hasn't done a ninja role yet. I'm still holding out.
Ninjas have the edge through greater mystery, hygiene, and bo-staff skills. Pirates - pillage and plunder. Avast! Ninjas - ...in your sleep.
Ninjas > Pirates.
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
AoD, You're setting pretty unrealistic expectations, not just on the guy, but on yourself. You've got a lot of growing up and a lot of losing your deperate need for attention before you would have the strength of character to really go along with your plan there.
---
Ninjas > pirates, unless said pirates have trained monkeys
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
The real question is, what are you willing to do for such a man? Honestly, the idea that you can just...find the kind of love you're describing (and here I'm including those words you omitted originally, 'within reason') is pretty naive.
That kind of love takes work, effort, and more than just looking. That you expect to just find it...well, it begs the question: do you deserve it? Why do you feel entitled to it from men in general, judging all by this standard you've made?
If you want to know how to find what you're looking for, see that you're worthy of it first, and then start looking for it and expecting it. I'm not saying that to pick on you, either. That's a standard I think everyone should live by: be a good, stable, independant person first.
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
quote:Originally posted by Juxtapose:
quote:Now, swashbuckling hottie pirates...I could go for that.
That's only because Johnny Depp hasn't done a ninja role yet. I'm still holding out.
Ninjas have the edge through greater mystery, hygiene, and bo-staff skills. Pirates - pillage and plunder. Avast! Ninjas - ...in your sleep.
Ninjas > Pirates.
Psh! Pirates were hotter than ninjas even before Johnny Depp. See also: Dread Pirate Roberts.
Oh yeah, baby. As I wish.
-pH
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
The Dread Pirate Roberts dressed as a ninja, not as a pirate. Being "The man in black" was part of what made him so cool.
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
He was a pirate. There are no ninjas in the Princess Bride.
A swashbuckling, swordfighting, quick-witted, smokin' pirate.
-pH
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
He dressed all in black and concealed his face. He dind't have a beard, wooden leg, eye patch, squint, big hat, or annoying parrot. He looked as if he bathed regularly and didn't sleep with men after a long time at sea. Describe that to anyone and ask them to classify the person described as ninja and pirate and they're going to say "ninja".
There were no ninjas in the Princess Bride because the movie was already super awesome. Adding more awesomenss could have sent people into awesomeness overload and led to a messy cleanup. You'll notice that they also left out kick-ass trained monkeys, for much the same reason,
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
-pH
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
His clothing is the glorius love-child of pirate garb and ninja garb.
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
Would that be called "pinja" or "nirate"?
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Ninjas >>>> Pirates >>>> all other occupations.
Anyone who disagrees will be persuaded by someone they'll never hear coming.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Why is it that in stories the dude always has to kill the dragon and fight the witch and slay monsters and lose his eyes while the woman mostly sleeps? That is hardly fair. To me it seems just a bit pointless for me to think of an ideal man, I doubt there is such a thing, just men who are imperfect, fascinating and cute all at the same time. Most annoyingly... I seem to get stuck with uncontrollable harping... it's so unexpected... I hate it.. >.< grrrr
But really it would be nice to have a guy who at least- loves music, if he doesn't share my beliefs, he will at least respect them and respect me and I'll do the same for him.
and I like Ninjas better because they have death stars, awesome swords and they take BATHS. But, Johnny Depp would be one sexy Ninja. all running around with that mask and those eyes... ooo.
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
I would like to point out, for those who think all pirates shower once a year, that the Dread Pirate Roberts, while maintaining his roguish good looks, also probably bathes.
-pH
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
By the way, everyone knows that the pecking order is more like this:
Boba Fett > Pirates > Ninjas.
All who say otherwise are clearly in denial.
-pH
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
quote:and I like Ninjas better because they have death stars, awesome swords and they take BATHS.
I feel compelled to mention that Darth Vader had a Death Star. Ninjas have throwing stars, more commonly know as ninja stars. Which are also pretty sweet.
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
Yes, Darth Vader belongs in that pecking order somewhere, but I think maybe he goes after pirates and before ninjas.
-pH
Posted by dantesparadigm (Member # 8756) on :
Is there a ninja Vs. Pirates thread? 'Cause if there isn't there should be.
Anyway, everyone knows ninjas are better than pirates. One ninja could easily take out a ship full of pirates. He'd be all "Hey look I'm a ninja!" only he wouldn't say that because ninjas are real sneaky. Then he'd slit the guards throats and blow a hole in the ship below the waterline, then he'd be off in the lifeboat before you can say "arghhh" and throw a trained monkey strapped to a coconut grenade.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote:everyone knows ninjas are better than pirates.
Ninjas are better killers than pirates. Ninjas are in all other ways inferior, however.
When was the last time you saw a ninja enjoying his life?
Posted by dantesparadigm (Member # 8756) on :
touche
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
I hate to distract from the ninjas vs. pirates discussion (which shouldn't even be a discussion because obviously pirates are cooler than ninjas ), but could we get a warning on that link of mph's that there is some graphic language and description?
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), but could we get a warning on that link of mph's that there is some graphic language and description?