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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Endangered Species vs. Urban Sprawl
 
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
 
Bush loves Lysenkoism. It's scary.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
Bad Gateway! Bad!

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Posted by DarkKnight (Member # 7536) on :
 
I'm not sure how this is another front in Bush's War on Science...I didn't even know he declared war on science...sounds more like an Interior Secretary is taking a mouse off of the endangered species list, but I could be reading way too much into it
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
I got the Bad Gateway message the first time, Icarus, but I'm able to get in now.
 
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
Well I don't know that this is really an example of Lysenkoism. There is no mention in the article of any facts which lead us to conclude that Ramey's study used bad science other than saying, "Critics say so."

In fact, that pisses me off. Not because I would put such a thing past the Bush Administration-I can see its membership wanting to overturn blocking development for a mouse-but because the article gives some hefty detail to the USGS's study, walking us through several of the steps. It doesn't give the reader a chance to see where the Ramey study used inferior science, other than the fact that it came to a different conclusion.

It seems to be either poor reporting or a rather blatant example of bias.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
DarkKnight where have you been?

Climate change.

Clean Air.

Intelligent Design.

And now Urban Sprawl vs. Endangered Species.

The man knows what he wants and creates directives to his so called scientific experts to give him the results he wants.

Sorry, I guess he didn't declare war. Would it make you feel better if I called it a Police Action on Science?
 
Posted by DarkKnight (Member # 7536) on :
 
President Bush has caused climate change?
President Bush has caused the air to be less clean?
President Bush has mandated ID?
and it's Bush's fault that the Interior Secretary "proposed removing the mouse from the government's endangered species list."? How odd.
To quote the article:
"Hallerman said Ramey's work reflects the Bush administration's intrusion of politics in its scientific research. "It seemed to me from the get-go, he wanted to find that this was not a taxonomically valid subspecies," Hallerman said."
I do understand that CNN has a completely misleading headline and then goes on to use someone's opinion (who only reviewed the second study but is not involved in any official capacity except that he is a professor) as the basis of their FACT that Bush wants to kill jumping mice so his buddies can get rich.
This is just another shining example of terrible reporting by CNN to make Bush the most evil man ever when this does not even involve Bush at all.
After reading this passage:
"After others raised similar doubts, Interior officials agreed to revisit Ramey's work by commissioning King's study. They had no immediate comment Wednesday"
We could change the headline to be:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Bush Administration halts urban sprawl and conducts careful review after study finds acrobatic mouse is a unique and endangered species.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
quote:
President Bush has caused climate change?
President Bush has caused the air to be less clean?
President Bush has mandated ID?

Now you're being just plain silly.

Though, yes, I do believe that Bush has caused the air to be less clean in many ways that can be directly linked to him and blamed on him. Look at the differences between the Clean Air Act and his Clear Skies Initiative and it speaks for itself.

And his disdain for and disregard for climatologists and their findings, including the American National Academy of Science, is obvious.
 


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