I can't imagine doing CPR for an hour! I have done it for over 15 minutes at a stretch and it is really taxing. Of course, they switched off between people...
Farmgirl
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I think it is in part the principle of attention. First, there are 40,000 Scouts on one camp, which is a decent-sized town. Any given week, something bad will happen in a decent-sized town, but at the Jamboree, it will be Scouts.
Secondly, since there are so many Scouts in the news, other news reports seem more prominent.
It's like the shark attacks of 2001. There were actually FEWER shark attacks that summer than the summer before, but the stories got momentum and were building on each other.
The kid who got lost in the mountains of Utah last month was a Scout, but it was before the Jamboree so it didn't seem like part of a pattern.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Yes -- I'm sure you're right. It just seems to be piled up into one week.
..or maybe I never really paid much attention before. Are there a lot of Scout incidents every year, but more spread out and not so noticed by media?
FG
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Sure. There are 4 million Boy Scouts - lots of bad things happen every year.
Posted by Beanny (Member # 7109) on :
We had a period like that last year in the scouts... it was terrible, such foolish accidents! One guy drowned because he couldn't swim and was ashamed to admit, another tripped and fell down a cliff...
But these accidents raised the level of security orders everywhere, and made us more cautious. Too bad we didn't learn from "almost happened" accidents.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
The lab I worked in in college lost a grad student the year before I came. The prof and the four PhD students were climing Mt. Timpanagos when one of them fell off the trail. He died before they got to him. I think it really rattled the professor - he didn't come in nearly as often, and the other students said he was much more angry than he used to be.
Posted by akhockey (Member # 8394) on :
My friend in Texas was telling me about a group of scouts from his area that came up to the homeland (Alaska!). They were getting their 50 mi. hike badges here and one kid got mauled by a bear. The others didn't panic and one of the other scouts made a tourniquet to stop the blood flow. I guess there isn't really a better group to be with after being mauled by a bear than some MacGyver scouts...
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
Oh man, imagine a small town composed entirely of adolescent boys. It's amazing any of them are still alive.
Posted by Beanny (Member # 7109) on :
*laughter mixed with sadness*
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
quote:BOWLING GREEN, Va. - About 300 Boy Scouts were sickened by the heat yesterday while waiting for President George W. Bush to arrive at a memorial service for four Scout leaders who were killed while pitching a tent beneath a power line.
But I got distracted by work, of all things and didn't post it. Probably just as well. Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
When my father was a boy scout, lightning hit the camp and splattered. Over half the troop was hit.
The scoutmaster came to my father first and found that he wasn't breathing and his heart wasn't beating. The scoutmaster left him for dead and went to help somebody that he *could* help.
When he came back later my father was breathing on his own.
Over a dozen scouts went to the hospital, but nobody died and there was no permanent damage.
One great thing was that the first-year-scouts were all off somewhere else doing the dishes, and they had barely gone over first aid the day before, so they were all prepared to go help the older scouts.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I was a Scout, and it helped me be prepared ( ) for many things in my life. A lot of the stuff I learned about basic first aid has come in very handy, even before I went and became a Medic in the Army.
Basically a Medic is a big Scout with access to Morphine. Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
Of the two lightning-struck scouts who received CPR long enough to be hospitalized: the adult leader has died; and the youth is brain-dead but remaining on life-support for organ donation.
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Posted by Joldo (Member # 6991) on :
So they're picking off Boy Scouts now, eh?
*surreptitiously stashes merit badge sash*
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
quote:Last Thursday, an assistant Scoutmaster and a 13-year-old Scout were killed by lightning in California's Sequoia National Park. And four Scout leaders at the National Boy Scout Jamboree in Virginia were electrocuted July 24 in front of several Scouts after they lost control of a metal tent pole and it fell against a power line.
Resemblences to Shark Summer 2001 aside, the lightning is getting creepy.
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
The week wasn't that bad...I rather enjoyed it.....
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Steve, I didn't realize that you were there. Back home, we kept hearing news reports from the Jamboree. Sounded scary. Glad to hear that you didn't get electrocuted or anything.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Oh no! Another tragedy. This is just terribly sad.
TS- No, I didn't die. Though, the number of times secret service people were about to detain me was numerous.
Elizabeth- Tragedies are part of life. Its just a little creepy that so many have been striking this particular organization. I wonder if God is trying to tell us something.
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
Good grief.
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
What are you giving praise to grief about?
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
quote: An 8-year-old girl
I wonder how on earth they found a loop hole to allow an 8 year-old girl to stay at a Boy Scout Camp. In order to stay over night according to national, you either have to be a registered member of scouts, or the parent of a scout... I seriously doubt this 8 year old was a mother....
Policies like these are in place to minimize liabilities...
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
It said another group was staying there. There were actually no Boy Scouts.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Actually there are allsort of exceptions made all of the time, and as long as the parents give concent it is no different than allowing a Boy Scout on premise.
As long as the insurance company knows before it happens, and the policy isn't limited to Boy Scouts.
Tough stuff to be sure... Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
LOL Kwea, the Insurance that BSA carries, is harder to get along with than the IRS...
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