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Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

quote:
How about you whiners start a different game with your favorites, and we'll go head to head.

Ok, let's do it this way.

First we race to get a list of 10 favorite Beatles songs. One song per person, until we have 10 songs (don't worry, you're not completely left out yet if yours didn't make it in, see below)

Then we'll use Frisco's system of + and -, except that we get 5 +'s and 5 -'s each. So we get to rate all 10 songs.

Also, only vote once per day.

For example, using Frisco's choices, I would post:

+ Across The Universe
+ While My Guitar Gently Weeps
- In My Life
+ Here Comes The Sun
- Golden Slumbers
+ A Day In The Life
+ Hey Jude
- I've Just Seen A Face
- Penny Lane
- I Saw Her Standing There

As with Frisco's system, each song starts with 10 points, but once a song reaches 0, it's eliminated.

BUT once a song is eliminated, we have a new race to nominate the next song, so the game continues, and it's not just limited to 10 songs out of the whole Beatles catalog. Just 10 songs at any given time.

[ July 10, 2005, 02:50 PM: Message edited by: Glenn Arnold ]

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

My nomination:

Tomorrow Never Knows

Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :

Elenor Rigby
Best
Beatles
Song
Ever

Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :

Savoy Truffle

Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :

Let it Be

Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :

For You Blue

Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :

Something

Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :

And Your Bird Can Sing

Posted by ProverbialSunrise (Member # 7771) on :

Blackbird

Posted by TheClone (Member # 6141) on :

Norwegian Wood

Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :

Happiness Is A Warm Gun

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

Ok, here's our 10 nominations:

(10 Points) Tomorrow Never Knows
(10 Points) Eleanor Rigby
(10 Points) Savoy Truffle
(10 Points) Let it Be
(10 Points) For You Blue
(10 Points) Something
(10 Points) And Your Bird Can Sing
(10 Points) Blackbird
(10 Points) Norwegian Wood
(10 Points) Happiness Is A Warm Gun

Remember, vote for 5+ AND 5-

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

BTW, I really like the nominations. Varied and interesting, with tough choices, but here goes:

+ Tomorrow Never Knows
+ Eleanor Rigby
- Savoy Truffle
- Let it Be
- For You Blue
+ Something
- And Your Bird Can Sing
+ Blackbird
+ Norwegian Wood
- Happiness Is A Warm Gun

Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :

-+ Tomorrow Never Knows
++ Eleanor Rigby
-- Savoy Truffle
+- Let it Be
-- For You Blue
++ Something
-- And Your Bird Can Sing
++ Blackbird
++ Norwegian Wood
-- Happiness Is A Warm Gun

I was too late to make a nomination and therefore my favorite song isn't in the voting, but there are some very good ones here. Norwegian Wood is probably my fav. of the ones listed

I think I should have left Glenn's votes, so I'm editing to include them.

[ July 03, 2005, 11:00 AM: Message edited by: punwit ]

Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :

--+ Tomorrow Never Knows
-++ Eleanor Rigby
--- Savoy Truffle
++- Let it Be
+-- For You Blue
+++ Something
+-- And Your Bird Can Sing
-++ Blackbird
+++ Norwegian Wood
--- Happiness Is A Warm Gun

Just cut and paste and add your votes...good idea, punny.

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

Oh, that's a good way to do it! Much less work for me. Also, it makes the voting process a copy/paste, so it's less work for everyone else.

But I imagine that we'll have to consolidate from time to time. I guess as soon as one song has 10 minuses, and a new song is nominated. Unless the line gets gets too long. (I suppose it might also be a problem for posts that come too close together, but we'll see)

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

Ok, it's shameless self promotion, but I thought this would attract more attention.

Part of why I set it up that everybody got to vote on all ten songs was that I figured that songs would get eliminated faster and the thread would be more exciting, but it's just sitting there like a lump.

Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :

Edit: I didn't add to the continuing line because it got too confusing.

-Tomorrow Never Knows
+Eleanor Rigby
-Savoy Truffle
+Let it Be
-For You Blue
+Something
-And Your Bird Can Sing
+Blackbird
+Norwegian Wood
-Happiness Is A Warm Gun

Posted by Speed (Member # 5162) on :

-Tomorrow Never Knows
+Eleanor Rigby
-Savoy Truffle
-Let it Be
-For You Blue
+Something
-And Your Bird Can Sing
+Blackbird
+Norwegian Wood
+Happiness Is A Warm Gun

And by the way, I hate to choose a favorite, but I hope Come Together and Get Back end up on this list. Oh, and I Will and When I'm 64. In fact, maybe I should just leave this thread while I'm ahead. I'm sure any list of 10 songs will only frustrate me. [Smile]

Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :

----+ Tomorrow Never Knows
++-++ Eleanor Rigby
----- Savoy Truffle
-+++- Let it Be
--+-- For You Blue
+++++ Something
--+-- And Your Bird Can Sing
++-++ Blackbird
+++++ Norwegian Wood
+---- Happiness Is A Warm Gun

I've updated it for ya, Glenn. I was gonna vote, but decided to let it be for a bit, if you'll pardon the Beatles reference.

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

Not exactly fast and furious is it?

Maybe nobody cares about the Beatles anymore.

Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :

-----+ Tomorrow Never Knows
+++-++ Eleanor Rigby
------ Savoy Truffle
+-+++- Let it Be
---+-- For You Blue
++++++ Something
---+-- And Your Bird Can Sing
+++-++ Blackbird
++++++ Norwegian Wood
-+---- Happiness Is A Warm Gun

There you go. I don't, however, particularly care for the Beatles. I hope it's OK that I still voted.

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

Second day, second vote.

+-----+ Tomorrow Never Knows
++++-++ Eleanor Rigby
------- Savoy Truffle
++-+++- Let it Be
----+-- For You Blue
+++++++ Something
----+-- And Your Bird Can Sing
++++-++ Blackbird
-++++++ Norwegian Wood
--+---- Happiness Is A Warm Gun

Annie, your vote is warmly appreciated.

Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :

Perhaps the old folks (those that grew up with the Beatles) only check the net before bedtime. A timely bump now along with my second round of voting.

-+-----+ Tomorrow Never Knows
+++++-++ Eleanor Rigby
-------- Savoy Truffle
+++-+++- Let it Be
-----+-- For You Blue
++++++++ Something
-----+-- And Your Bird Can Sing
+++++-++ Blackbird
+-++++++ Norwegian Wood
---+---- Happiness Is A Warm Gun

Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :

+Yesterday

Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :

- Reading Comprehension [Wink]

I mean that in the nicest way possible, skillery. Would you be willing to give a plus or a minus to each of the previously listed titles? Once a song has 10 negative votes it will be eliminated and then you can suggest a song to replace it on the list. [Wink]

Posted by Haloed Silhouette (Member # 8062) on :

-+-----+- Tomorrow Never Knows
+++++-+++ Eleanor Rigby
--------- Savoy Truffle
+++-+++-+ Let it Be
-----+--- For You Blue
+++++++++ Something
-----+--- And Your Bird Can Sing
+++++-+++ Blackbird
+-+++++++ Norwegian Wood
---+----- Happiness Is A Warm Gun

Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :

+++++ Elanor Rigby.

Can't vote for the rest, never heard any of them... ::hides from inevitable backlash::

Posted by Haloed Silhouette (Member # 8062) on :

And you post? here?

*Backlash.*

Posted by Princess Leah (Member # 6026) on :

-+-----+-+ Tomorrow Never Knows
+++++-+++- Eleanor Rigby
---------- Savoy Truffle
+++-+++-++ Let it Be
-----+---- For You Blue
++++++++++ Something
-----+---- And Your Bird Can Sing
+++++-++++ Blackbird
+-++++++++ Norwegian Wood
---+-----+ Happiness Is A Warm Gun

Posted by Princess Leah (Member # 6026) on :

Isn't it "savory truffle?"

/nitpick

Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :

I nominate Nowhere Man.

Glenn, how do we do this? Do I just replace Savoy Truffle with my selection and vote, like so?

--+-----+-+ Tomorrow Never Knows
++++++-+++- Eleanor Rigby
+ Nowhere Man
-+++-+++-++ Let it Be
------+---- For You Blue
+++++++++++ Something
------+---- And Your Bird Can Sing
++++++-++++ Blackbird
++-++++++++ Norwegian Wood
----+-----+ Happiness Is A Warm Gun

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

Exactly.

I'll have to figure out a way to weed out the excess +'s and -'s, so it doesn't get out of hand, but this will work for now.

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

And in case you didn't notice, "For You Blue" and "And Your Bird Can Sing" have just been eliminated.

I'll recuse myself, since it's my thread.

Posted by Speed (Member # 5162) on :

I'll nominate "Come Together".

Posted by Parsimony (Member # 8140) on :

----+-----+-+ Tomorrow Never Knows
+-++++++-+++- Eleanor Rigby
+++ Nowhere Man
---+++-+++-++ Let it Be
++ Come Together
-++++++++++++ Something
-+ A Day In The Life
--++++++-++++ Blackbird
-+++-++++++++ Norwegian Wood
------+-----+ Happiness Is A Warm Gun

Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :

Glenn, what if you assigned a (1) or a (10) to those entries with 10 + votes? Any entry with 10 - votes will disappear. Your list would look something like this:

--- Eleanor Rigby (10)
+++ Nowhere Man
---+++-+++-++ Let it Be
++ Come Together
-++ Something (10)
-+ A Day In The Life
--- Blackbird (10)
-+- Norwegian Wood (10)

Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :

Nomination: (still haven't figured out this voting system)

Help

Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :

Make your nomination and add it to the list. Once you've made your nomination and added it to the existing list you can then vote. You get 5 + (I like this selection) votes and 5 - (I'm not as thrilled with this selection) votes. Of course, presently we will only have 9 to vote on (counting your nomination). I suppose you could nominate 2 although Glenn hasn't fleshed out those rules yet.

I'd suggest that you can only nominate prior to voting and you can only vote once a day. We'll have to get a ruling. Glenn!!

Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :

+--- Eleanor Rigby (10)
-+++ Nowhere Man
+---+++-+++-++ Let it Be
-++ Come Together
--++ Something (10)
+-+ A Day In The Life
+--- Blackbird (10)
--+- Norwegian Wood (10)
++Help

Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :

[Blushing]

I thought sndrake was requesting help.

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

Punwit:
"I'd suggest that you can only nominate prior to voting and you can only vote once a day. We'll have to get a ruling. Glenn!!"

Yes, that sounds right to me. I specified that you only get one vote per day, but separating the nomination from the vote makes sense, since your nomination might be beat by someone else.

But you dropped Tomorrow Never Knows off the list when you edited the +'s and -'s. It took me a minute to see where the (10) went, but I see it now. Umm, the pluses should cancel the minuses, so Tommorrow Never Knows had 10 minuses and 3 pluses, for a total of 7 minuses, it hasn't been eliminated yet. And that's how I'll edit the list to make it shorter, see below. (I left Brinestone's votes, instead of cancelling them.)

Crap, "For You Blue" and "And Your Bird Can Sing" each had 10 minuses and 1 plus, so I shouldn't have eliminated them yet. Well, I'm not going back, since "A day in the life," "Come together," and "Help" are now on the list.

Sndrake:

I haven't included your vote, since you only nominated one song, go back and rate all ten songs and I'll include them.

Brinestone, you're entitled to one more minus.

+------- Tomorrow Never Knows
-+++++++ Eleanor Rigby
-+++ Nowhere Man
+--+++++ Let it Be
-++ Come Together
-+++++++++++ Something
+ A Day In The Life
+-++++++++ Blackbird
-+++++++++ Norwegian Wood
+ Help

Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :

This is way complicated. Just seems like a way to let the real fans' obscure favorites get beat up by the more popular ones. [Razz]

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

Yeah, maybe, but it's kind of interesting seeing the way things stack up.

Even more, now that some have been eliminated. Will they come from behind?

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

Oh, and my vote for today. I wish we could use leading spaces to line things up. I wonder why they don't show up?

++------- Tomorrow Never Knows
+-+++++++ Eleanor Rigby
+-+++ Nowhere Man
-+--+++++ Let it Be
+-++ Come Together
+-+++++++++++ Something
-+ A Day In The Life
-+-++++++++ Blackbird
--+++++++++ Norwegian Wood
-+ Help

Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :

++-------- Tomorrow Never Knows
+-+++++++- Eleanor Rigby
+-++++ Nowhere Man
-+--+++++- Let it Be
+-+++ Come Together
+-+++++++++++- Something
-+- A Day In The Life
-+-+++++++++ Blackbird
--+++++++++- Norwegian Wood
-++ Help

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

Today's vote. I actually voted aginst my own song. It was a toss up between Nowhere Man and Tomorrow Never Knows, but I figure it's only a matter of time before it gets knocked off anyway.

- ------ Tomorrow Never Knows
+ ++++++ Eleanor Rigby
+ ++++ Nowhere Man
- ++ Let it Be
+ +++ Come Together
+ ++++++++++ Something
- - A Day In The Life
+ ++++++++ Blackbird
- ++++++ Norwegian Wood
- + Help

Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :

+ ------- Tomorrow Never Knows
+ +++++++ Eleanor Rigby
- +++++ Nowhere Man
- -++ Let it Be
+ ++++ Come Together
- +++++++++++ Something
+ -- A Day In The Life
- +++++++++ Blackbird
- -++++++ Norwegian Wood
+ -+ Help

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

So for those that haven't figured it out, I worked out how to keep track of the votes without letting them become long strings.

Each day before I make my vote, I simply cancel pairs of +'s and -'s, so that only one kind is left. If we get to 10 -'s, that song is eliminated. It doesn't change the rules, and it works pretty well.

Remember, to vote, copy and paste the list, and add your votes (5 + and 5 -). It may seem complicated, but it's actually pretty simple. One vote per day.

[ July 11, 2005, 01:03 PM: Message edited by: Glenn Arnold ]

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

Just copying the current state to the second page.

+ ------- Tomorrow Never Knows
+ +++++++ Eleanor Rigby
- +++++ Nowhere Man
- -++ Let it Be
+ ++++ Come Together
- +++++++++++ Something
+ -- A Day In The Life
- +++++++++ Blackbird
- -++++++ Norwegian Wood
+ -+ Help

Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :

(Have no idea at all if I'm doing this right)

-+ ------- Tomorrow Never Knows
++ +++++++ Eleanor Rigby
+- +++++ Nowhere Man
-- -++ Let it Be
-+ ++++ Come Together
-- +++++++++++ Something
+- -- A Day In The Life
-- +++++++++ Blackbird
+- -++++++ Norwegian Wood
++ -+ Help

[ July 10, 2005, 04:14 PM: Message edited by: sndrake ]

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

You did it right, except you gave 6 +'s and 4 -'s. Switch one of your pluses to a minus.

Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :

Done! (edited previous post)

Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :

--+ ------- Tomorrow Never Knows
+++ +++++++ Eleanor Rigby
-+- +++++ Nowhere Man
--- -++ Let it Be
+-+ ++++ Come Together
+-- +++++++++++ Something
++- -- A Day In The Life
--- +++++++++ Blackbird
++- -++++++ Norwegian Wood
-++ -+ Help

Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :

---+ ------- Tomorrow Never Knows
++++ +++++++ Eleanor Rigby
+-+- +++++ Nowhere Man
---- -++ Let it Be
=+-+ ++++ Come Together
++-- +++++++++++ Something
-++- -- A Day In The Life
+--- +++++++++ Blackbird
+++- -++++++ Norwegian Wood
--++ -+ Help

Glenn, I'm sorry if I messed up the voting earlier. I had intended my post to be a suggestion rather than an actual update. I'll stay out of the way in the future.

Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :

No problem, it's not a science. I'm kind of interested in how the votes wax and wane.

I assume your = means +, but you missed the shft key. Here's the update, with my vote for the day.

(and I'm in the odd position of being able to eliminate my own nomination. But, no...)

+ --------- Tomorrow Never Knows
+ +++++++++++ Eleanor Rigby
- +++++ Nowhere Man
- --- Let it Be
+ ++++ Come Together
+ +++++++++++ Something
- -- A Day In The Life
+ ++++++++ Blackbird
- +++++++ Norwegian Wood
- Help