This is topic Telp, you and I are the only ones awake! (Now known as the kishke thread) in forum Books, Films, Food and Culture at Hatrack River Forum.
[ March 16, 2005, 10:39 AM: Message edited by: Raia ]
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
I'm not real? I'm not real. *poof!*
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Yay, quid's alive too! And how was YOUR day? Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
heheh wow!
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
I've been fighting against depression as of late... *sigh*
But a friend came over and we watched some great anime so I feel better.
My 28th birthday is this Friday... maybe that's why I'm feeling blue. Heh.. that and my poverty. AND I have to work a double on my b-day! Oooo.. that sucks...
[ March 16, 2005, 03:53 AM: Message edited by: Telperion the Silver ]
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Awww, Telp, I'm sorry to hear that! Anything you'd like to vent about? *hug*
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
...read my edit... Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
I also went through a million pictures today to scan into the computer... sent them to mack and ...um... what's-her-name... the foobonic gal... so hopefully I'll have my pics up for Hatrack to see at last.
But I couldn't for the life of me find my sexy goth pictures!! I look so good in those too! *pouts* Ah well... hopefully they'll turn up somewhere.
[ March 16, 2005, 03:57 AM: Message edited by: Telperion the Silver ]
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
I've been snowflaking and stuff. Well, really, it all started with me sorting out my writing files into damaged and good (there was a bug in the program Fahim wrote for me for my writing that caused data to disappear). After I did that, I started snowflaking a new story - the one I mentioned to you last night.
I did some cooking - curried peppers, fish, and rice for lunch - and a load of laundry.
Then I resumed snowflaking, and then eventually gave up when that same program lost more of my data. Now I'm waiting for Fahim to fix the program so I can keep on using it.
Good thing I have backups, so the data really isn't lost. It's just that I'm not willing to work with a program when I *know* it's going to lose data for me. Sigh.
But the story - I have a good premise. Distinctly different from that other one to the point of having only one single element in common. So, I'm happy. Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
((Raia))
Posted by Theca (Member # 1629) on :
Snowflaking?
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Happy birthday!! Can't you get the day off work? And to Telp pictures!
Quid, that's awesome. I wish I could cook.
(edit: (((Telpy))) )
[ March 16, 2005, 04:00 AM: Message edited by: Raia ]
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
Yeah. It's a writing thing. Good for plot & character development. You can find it here.
Raia, anyone can cook. It just takes practice.
Posted by esl (Member # 3143) on :
Wow, talk about speed posting. That's pretty cool.
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
It's funny, quid... I can make really complicated things, like empanadas, and cholent (which very few people, even Jews, know how to make)... but I can't boil pasta. Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
I can eat pasta
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Me too!
Are we related?
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Mmm. Pasta sounds so good right now.
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
Practice, practice, practice. And incentive. If you really want to learn how to make pasta, you'll do it.
What the heck is cholent, anyway? Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Mom made a glut load of spagetti... Mmmmm.. *eats some right now*
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Cholent is a traditional Jewish dish. The reason is that it cooks for 24 hours in the oven, which means that religious Jews, who can't cook on the sabbath, can make in on friday, put it in the oven, and have a hot meal the following day.
Unfortunately, it's an art that has sort of dwindled. But my mom makes it sometimes, and taught me how. It's one of my favorite dishes, it's soo good!
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
Well, okay, but. . . What is it, what's in it, and do you have a recipe? Curious, I guess. But it sounds like just the thing for sabbath.
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Mmmmm... black sabbath!
Muwahahah! Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
I don't have a recipe where I am now, I have one at my parents' house, but I can get it to you next time I'm there, if you want. It's basically a huge pot roast, it's meat (we usually use corned beef), and potatoes, and hard boiled eggs (which are so good, because they're cooked for 24 hours, so they're brown on the inside, and it's delicious), and kishke (trust me, you don't want to know what that is... you can't get it outside of Israel anyway, just believe me when I say it tastes good), and barley, and lima beans, and kidney beans, and seasoning. Stuff like that.
It's the most delicious thing ever.
Posted by esl (Member # 3143) on :
Sounds very good! kinda like sushi - I never really know what's in that either.
Eggs sound muchly interesting too! I love hard-boiled eggs Tea-boiled and 'thousand-year-old' eggs are also very good.
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Ok... I'm off to bed. Take care guys!
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Hey, I'm awake, too, and since a pretty long time - only, there was too much students so I didn't dare to post Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Goodnight Telp!
And hello Anna! Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Good night Telp ! Hello, everybody else ! For now my day is not what I would like it to be. I catched a big cold and I feel like crap. i'm glad I don't work this afternoon, some reste will do me good.
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
Goodnight, Telp, and hello, Anna!
Raia, it sounds good, but now I'm curious about those other things - kishke. Can't help it, it's my nature. C'mon, tell me. You know you want to. . .
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Hehe... do I? Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
Please?
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
1/2 lb Beef liver 1/2 lb Beef lung (optional) 1/4 lb Ground beef 2 c Raw rice, rinsed & drained 1 T Fresh coriander, chopped 2 t Salt 1 t Pepper, or to taste 3 -ft large intestine of beef - well cleaned and - prepared for stuffing 4 ea Ribs of celery, halved -horizontally 1/3 c Onion, sliced 3 ea Bay leaves 1 t Peppercorns 4 qt Clear beef stock
1. Char the liver over charcoal or under a gas or electric broiler to kosher. Cut the liver into 1/4-inch cubes. If used, boil the lung in water for 1/2 hour. Cool and cut into 1/4-inch cubes. 2. In a large bowl, mix together well the liver, lung (optional), ground beef, rice, coriander, salt, and pepper. Sew up one end of the intestine (derma) and stuff -- not too tightly since the rice will expand. Sew up the opening. 3. On the bottom of a large pan, put the celery, onion, bay leaves, and peppercorns. Pour in the clear beef stock. Bring to a boil over moderate heat and add the stuffed casting. Half-cover the pan and reduce the heat to low. Cook for about 45 minutes or more, until the skin is tender. Serve the kishke warm, sliced. Remove the bay leaves and serve the clear soup separately. Makes 10 to 12 servings.
Well, I don't much like brains, and liver, I only like when it's liverwurst, but intestines? Never had it. Lungs neither. I have a hard time seeing either as appealing. Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Kishke is just the intestines... I'm not sure what the rest of that is all about it... I guess some people make stuffed kishke!
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
I have a really easy and delicious recipe. For every person, you need : 1 chicken escalope, a little goat cheese, half a red pepper. You cut the escalope in two parts horizontally. You put the bottom part on an aluminium sheet. You cover it with little bits of goat cheese. You cover it with the other half of the escalope and half a red pepper. Put it in the oven, Th 270°C for about half an hour. It takes no time to do and it's really yummy and presents well !
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
Well, I wouldn't advise eating a dish containing brains: the infectious agent which causes MadCows disease isn't destroyed by cooking. Weighing the pleasure against the risk is always ones own decision to make, but vCJD is a nasty that I find to be on the extreme opposite of what I would ever want to happen to me. I'd prefer being eaten by wolverines over it.
However, chitlins/chitterlings/chiterlynges are made from cleaned intestines, as are the casings containing the meat&etc of the better sausages. I'm sure there are many traditional foods which use them; and tripe, which can be either the fat lining the intestines or a specific part of a ruminant's (such as an ox) stomach.
And lungs are known euphemisticly as lights, and are also contained in pluck.
Ya know, the more I think about what's in good sausages and certain other traditional foods, the more I wish I didn't know.
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
That is the very reason, aspectre, why I wasn't going to mention it. Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
Yeah, brain doesn't appeal much to me, either. *insert puking smilie here*
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
what language is kishke? Jidish? Cause it's almost exactly the same word in Polish (meaning both the intestines and the dish) and I wonder which language it originated from. (i.e. is it originally Polish or not).
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
actually, kiszka would be the same thing as blood sausage, I think.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
and I answer my own question:
quote: ETYMOLOGY: Yiddish, from Russian kishka, intestine.
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Hehe, I was about to answer it for you... yes, it's Yiddish. My spelling was phonetic, it may be spelled differently.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: I guess some people make stuffed kishke!
Raia, you're Jewish. You live in a Jewish community. OF COURSE SOME PEOPLE MAKE STUFFED KISHKE. (That was a yell, sorry.)
JH
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Well, they don't in my family, schmegeg!
And we don't make cholent because we're religious, but because we like it. So there.
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Hmm... I just eat 70 pieces of Pulke.
All you Yanks make me seem like an outsider; so now all those with non-Jewish cultre are left outside. Hehe.
Religion hit back! *Claps Raia and R/r- (oops, *wink*!) -ivka's hands.*
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
70 pieces?! How do you stay so skinny?! O_O
I like pulke. Yum. Jonny, you're making me hungry! I might stop by the minhala soon for food, but quickly, before they close. Oh, wait, I have class. Oops.
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
(Hapful Birthday Telp)
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: How do you stay so skinny?!
I'm not skinny. I am at least 70 KG, and only 1.75 at height. 46-size shoes, but a real, delightful stomach.
And it's only 2 pulkalach and one chicken-boob. Amongst rice, that is.
That's shabbat evening. For lunch usually pasta. (Bullocks to salad!)
What do you have for Shabbat?
JH
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
It differs every time!
And I love salad, btw... but I love pasta too. And of course, pulkalach. And... many other things. Hehe. I like to eat.
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Mmmmmm... brains.
Eating all the organs isn't that bad... as long as you cook them and dice them up nice... it'll be just like turkey stuffing! Posted by Altáriël of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
I LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Guess what mortals, I am alive too!
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
That's good!
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Until we take out your organs and cook them up Jewish style!
PREPARE THE BIG KNIFE!
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Geeze, you must be a brave man Telp - that takes real guts.
-Trevor
PS: Although the Scots use oat and barley, I believe.
Posted by Altáriël of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
*runs away squealing like a catholic school girl while everyone else prepares for the manhunt* "They'll never find me here!" I say as I hide near a bush.
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
"Near" a bush?? Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Heheh.. manhunt.. hehheh
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Did you read Baba Kama, Baba Metzia'a, and Bama Bathra from the Gemara? They tell you all about Shechita.
Otherwise, it's not kosher, and not "Jewish style"!!!
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Of course Raia - because saying "amcheneyed" doesn't have the same ring.
-Trevor
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
quote:Otherwise, it's not kosher, and not "Jewish style"!!!
tee hee Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
Telperion, don't threaten to stalk&kill someone. Not even in jest. It happens often enough in real life that the words alone can be very frightening to the recipient.
We've had several Jatraqueras leave for an extended period of time because of similar postings. When not permanently, at least until after the poster got booted off Hatrack. And even then, their participation hasn't been the same.
Please Delete Those Comments
[ March 16, 2005, 04:58 PM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
It's all good. There are no threats. Just friendly banter. Don't worry aspectre. Posted by Altáriël of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
I didn't feel threatened at all, so there is no need to delete those comments. BTW, near a bush? I'll go to a freakin' cave then!
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
But in more related news... this dish sounds very interesting...
Is there such a thing and Jewish restaurants where I could order this? And not just that...but any traditional food? There is a large jewish population in the norther suburbs of Detroit.. I'm sure there must be something up there.
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
No, it isn't okay. This type of playful behaviour has happened before. And the atmosphere created always eventually devolved until playful use ended up being used as an example/excuse for others to use similar wording in a nonplayful manner on more serious threads.
Please Delete Those Comments
[ March 16, 2005, 05:38 PM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Permit me to point out that the moderator(s) haven't intervened, the subject in question is neither offended nor bothered and nobody else seems to be disturbed.
-Trevor
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
I'm most definitely not a baba!
Posted by Altáriël of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
Yeah, what he said!
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
The moderators do not make a full-time job of reading postings here. Nor should they have to. We should be responsible enough to take care of ourselves.
And no, I don't file complaints notifying moderators.
However, you weren't here when devolution of the forum atmosphere leading to the previous incidents occurred. If you had been witness, you wouldn't have posted such words in the first place.
Please Delete Those Comments Posted by Altáriël of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
Umm..where is that thread? Does it still exist? Why are you so angry at us? If you're not, then why do you seem to be? .........................are you on your period? Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
quote: (Hapful Birthday Telp)
I thought it was Telperion's Birthday today. Further investigation on the Birthday Thread has proved that this is not true- his birthday is the 18th.
So Hapful EARLY Birthday, Telp, for the eighteenth.
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
I am neither offended nor angry. Never was. Whenever I type something in anger, I delete it. Nearly always before ever posting it. And if I post it, I delete it within a minute or so.
Several times in the past, there have been forum glitches which either deleted or made it easiest/necessary to delete large sections of past postings to get around, to fix the problems.
I think both of you are very cute (and I don't mean looks alone) assets on this forum. However, personal isn't the same as important.
Please Delete Those Comments
[ March 16, 2005, 06:21 PM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
quote: So Hapful EARLY Birthday, Telp, for the eighteenth.
Thanks buddy!
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
I think, aspectre, that we leave things as they are since there is no harm done, but understand your point and be more wary of our language in the future. Cool? Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
*snort*
-Trevor
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
Thank you very much Teleperion
However, if you delete those specific comments, I will feel comfortable in deleting mine. And this derailment can disappear.
An RPG Mafia / mystery-solving game -- in which "assassin"s kill "citizen"s and "citizen"s lynch suspected "assassin"s -- useta be a regular feature of this forum. Enough so that rarely a day passed in which a game wasn't on the front page. Because of those past incidents, they are no longer played on this forum.
[ March 16, 2005, 06:35 PM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Hehe, I like your use of the word "derailment," considering this thread started out as a "Hi Telp, you're awake," and evolved into a discussion about Jewish food and the cooking of internal organs.
Telp, if I ever meet you in person, I'll make you cholent. Posted by Mormo (Member # 5799) on :
Telp is cholent green!
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
actually, I believe mafia is no longer played here because the other forums that were created made it possible to have an entire forum for mafia only, so that the threads could be easily found, and were not intermingled with "regular" threads.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
"Because of those past incidents, they are no longer played on this forum."
I think Kama has the right of it. Unless someone knows something they haven't told me, the mods never asked anyone to cut out Hatrack Mafia.
Posted by Altáriël of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
x.X I've no idea what Hatrack Mafia was. And what is this "past incident" being reffered to? Oh, and why am I something "cute" in this forum(I'm not ticked off at this, I just want to know what you meant).
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
quote:Telp, if I ever meet you in person, I'll make you cholent.
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