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Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Ain't turning back it's my time to fly
Too many decisions and not enough time
But I always did like the thrill of living in the unknown
So pucker up mama 'cause I

I ain't comin' home


[Big Grin]

[ March 08, 2005, 11:59 AM: Message edited by: twinky ]
 
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
Should we take this as another "I'm getting married and moving to NZ" thread? [Razz]
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Nope. The move has already happened. I'm set up in my new digs in southern Ontario, and start work on Monday.

(Well, I'm not fully set up or anything, I still need more furniture and have a lot of stuff strewn everywhere that needs to be put away. But the stuff is all here now. [Razz] )
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
What part of Southern Ontario?
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Sarnia. Right across the St. Clair river from Michigan.

(And, heavens be praised, I have broadband again!)

[ March 08, 2005, 12:23 PM: Message edited by: twinky ]
 
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
 
[Smile] Congratulations.
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
If I ever make it over to Detroit would you come visit me? It's about 5-6 hours to Detroit from Chicago.

AJ
http://ca.maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?csz=Sarnia%2C+Ontario&country=ca

[ March 08, 2005, 12:26 PM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Absolutely, AJ. [Smile]

I will also be coming to Chicago at some point, a friend of mine is doing his PhD there.
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
Apparently it's about a hundred km or so from where I would be the next time I'm up there.
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Score! Keep me posted. [Smile]
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
[Smile]
 
Posted by fiazko (Member # 5812) on :
 
Yay that you got all moved. (Yeah, today is a good grammar day.)
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
Will do. Although, I most likely won't be up that way for some time.
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
[Smile]

fiazko, you'll be getting email from me about the prints soon. [Smile]
 
Posted by Jaiden (Member # 2099) on :
 
Which company in Sarnia? (my father grew up there)
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
It's at the synthetic rubber plant that was until recently part of Bayer (and had like ten jillion other owners before that). Bayer spun off its worldwide synthetic rubber divison into a separate company last year, and that's who I'll be working for.
 
Posted by dh (Member # 6929) on :
 
Hey twinky, I'm in Ottawa. If you ever wanna get together and do something, lemme know. [Smile]
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
So's Teshi, I think. We could have ourselves a little Con. [Smile]
 
Posted by Jaiden (Member # 2099) on :
 
Near Imperial Ave?
(Is it Lanxess? I seem to remember my great uncle mentioning it...)

[ March 08, 2005, 07:47 PM: Message edited by: Jaiden ]
 
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
 
Yay! TwinkyCon! OntariCon? Conada?
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Lanxess indeed. [Smile]

There has already been one Hatrack.ca gathering (Pod, Jaiden, Ophelia, Bob the Lawyer, and me), and since I live between Pod and Jaiden I figure I'll get to see one or both of them when they're en route to visiting each other [Big Grin]

There's also EQ in Waterloo.

I'm sure we could put something together if we set our minds to it. [Smile]
 
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
 
quote:
There's also EQ in Waterloo.
Don't you mean EL?
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Yes, I do. I was thinking of how to spell the first word of her handle, though, and that sort of carried over when I decided to abbreviate it. [Razz]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Waaaaah!!!!! A Hatrack.ca Con and I can't go!!!!! Waaaaah!!!!! [Cry]

(I lived in Canada for 35 years, and never made it east of Manitoba. How important can Ontario be? [ROFL] )
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Funny, I've lived here for 22 of my 23 years, and was born here, and never made it west of Ontario. How important can western Canada be? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
 
I agree with twinky. Western Ontario might as well not exist as far as my experience goes. [Razz]

Thalia (I think that was her name?) is in Hamilton, Foust is in London, Desdemona is in one of Toronto's burbs and that newbie with an "A" is here in Waterloo with me. And Telp's in Detroit which is sorta close. I mean, if you're going to list people try and be complete, y'know?
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Wow, that's actually quite a few.
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
I am from Detroit, and my parents are retiring this year to Northern MI, near Traverse City. I know that isn't too close to Sarnia, but JenniK and I are coming from MA and we cut through Canada (it has to be good for SOMETHING) to get to MI. [Evil]

Usually we go through Port Huron...gotta love the BWB, you know....
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Port Huron is literally two hundred metres from my apartment.
 
Posted by Astaril (Member # 7440) on :
 
I'm not a newbie! I've been here a whole week, guys! [/sarcasm and wishful thinking]

And see, me, I've been to Victoria, Whitehorse, a bit south of Alert, and Ottawa-Hull, covering pretty much all the corners except east. But, really, how important can out east be?? (Now quick, who's going to cover the north?)

By the way, congrats on the new place, twinky!
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Psst, Bob the Lawyer.

I am in Toronto.
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
I was the one who mistakenly placed you in Ottawa. *sheepish grin* I think it was because you were talking abou skating so much that I assumed you meant you would be doing it on the canal. [Razz]

Toronto is a hop, skip, and a jump. We're going to have to do this Hatrack.ca 2.0 thing, if people are interested. Are people interested?
 
Posted by BotaLadyG (Member # 7053) on :
 
I'm not in Canada, but I am just 20 minutes southeast of Toledo, Ohio *insert shy smilie*

Nicole
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Wow, there are all sorts of people around. Cool. [Smile] We need to choose a place on which to converge.
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
twinky, the reason you think I'm an Ottawan is because I am half and half. As a student, I live in Toronto; as a non-student, I live in Ottawa. And yes, the canal is my favourite skating venue [Smile] .

If we're going to have a Toronto thing it'd better be during the school year.

EDIT: And if we're going to have an Ottawa thing, it had better NOT be during the school year.

i.e. the world must revolve around me [Wink] .

[ March 08, 2005, 11:26 PM: Message edited by: Teshi ]
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Heh heh heh [Razz]
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
Coooommme to Minnesota... COOOOOOMMMMMEEE to MN!!!
 
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
 
^ What she said.

[Wink]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
In Canada, I've been as far north as Norman Wells, NWT. It's on the flight route halfway between Yellowknife and Inuvik. I've been north of the Arctic Circle. I was born in Thompson, Manitoba (12 hour train ride north of Winnipeg), lived in Fort McMurry, in northern Alberta, lived in Vancouver, BC, but I've also been to Victoria and all over the rest of Vancouver Island. And I've been all over the rest of western Canada. How important could eastern Canada be? [Dont Know]

So, whaddya figure? Is the north covered well enough with that?
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
quote:
a bit south of Alert
Alert, as in Ellesmere Island? I didn't think there was much of anything between Alert and Resolute.
 
Posted by Astaril (Member # 7440) on :
 
Quid, I actually meant no one's accused the north of being unimportant yet. But I guess it's just been ignored, which is the same difference, only passive. [Smile]

And yep, I was at Lake Hazen on Ellesmere (see very crude map here) on an archaeological dig last summer. Also stayed in Resolute for a bit. There is Grise Fiord between them though on the south end of Ellesmere, a nice little town we wound up storm-stayed in. I think it's technically the furthest north community in the country (Alert doesn't really count). But no, really not much else at all, except a few Parks Canada warden stations and a lot of tundra and mountains. And glaciers. Lots of glaciers.

*cough* So...how about that Hatrack.ca thing?
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Have I somehow been appointed organizer? [Razz]
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
That's awesome. I've been wanting to visit Ellesmere ever since I read The Horizontal Everest back in September.

My best chance for going north was when my aunt-in-law lived in Iqaluit, which I know is still quite far south of Resolute. I missed out, though; she moved to Regina last year.
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Welcome To The North, indeed.
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
quote:
Have I somehow been appointed organizer?
Would you like some sort of title to go with it? Because I believe there's another thread for that...

[Wink]
 
Posted by Astaril (Member # 7440) on :
 
*points at twinky* Organizer! Organizer!

Now you have.

And saxon, I really want to read that! It's on my list. I have a bunch of pics of my trip up on the web if you're interested, though I need to fix it up a bit first and add the last bunch. Iqaluit is awesome. I immediately fell in love with it when I got there. Personally, I'd much rather live there than Resolute. Resolute is extremely desolate and depressing as far as scenery goes, though nice in its own way. It's in sad shape with suicide rates and such though. Nice people however. But Iqaluit is absolutely beautiful. Okay, I'm done now.

Edit: Another good one on the topic is Musk Ox Land, by Lyle Dick.

[ March 09, 2005, 12:14 PM: Message edited by: Astaril ]
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
*sigh*

I'm just not sure when I'll be able to attend such a gathering... though there may be some weekends in April or May that could be put to such a use. I'd be quite happy to organize it even if I can't go. I suppose I should go start a thread or something...
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
My brief review of the book.
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Oh. twinky if you can't go, of course don't feel obligated to do anything!

[Frown]
 
Posted by Astaril (Member # 7440) on :
 
I'm sure someone else can organize if you don't want to. Or, if you do it, you could easily 'organize' it into a weekend that works for you...

And it sounds great, saxon. Other people have recommended it to me as well. The Musk Ox Land book (see edit above) is less personal, but a very interesting account of the history no less.

Wow. It's noon. I guess I should get to doing something productive today for school. See you all later... [Wave]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
quote:
Quid, I actually meant no one's accused the north of being unimportant yet. But I guess it's just been ignored, which is the same difference, only passive.
The little nuances I miss because of massively pounding heads. [Angst]

Are you planning on inviting those in the west, or is this going to be an exclusive gathering?
 
Posted by Astaril (Member # 7440) on :
 
See here for further discussion!
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Thanks, Astaril. I found it after I posted in this thread.

So. Once more, the exclusionary east ignores the west as unimportant! One more example to put into the annals of Canadian history! Down with the east! [ROFL]
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Well... there are more people here than there. If there were more people out there, we might meet there. But there aren't. [Smile]

I've heard that many Vancouverites think Toronto is stuck up and snitty. Is it true?
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Um, yeah, pretty much. [ROFL] I was a Vancouverite, and I had/have relatives living in Toronto, and they were all stuck up and snitty, so I was basing it on them rather than the rest of the general population, whom I have not met that I know of. But, yeah. [Big Grin] Then again, Vancouverites tend to be granola people, so [Dont Know]
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Hm. Interesting.

Well we're liberal here, of course, but not granola liberal, more "there are far too many people living in a small space here and they all are different than if we don't just get along and have a good time we'd explode" liberal.

[Dont Know]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
By granola, I mean a lot of sandals with socks and shorts, vegetarians, tree-hugging tree-spiking don't care who it hurts people. Okay, not all of them, but there do seem to be a lot more extremist environmentalists there. And panhandlers, and squeegee boys, and beggars wearing Doc Martens which I could never afford, and . . . [Angst]
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
I know what you mean [Wink] [Smile] .
 
Posted by Sean (Member # 689) on :
 
quote:
I've heard that many Vancouverites think Toronto is stuck up and snitty. Is it true?
Everybody west of, say, Kenora thinks Toronto is stuck up. If we knew what snitty meant we'd probably have thought that to.
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
From the Oxford English Dictionary:

snitty (adj.)

American (orig. and chiefly slang)

1. Ill-tempered, sulky.

1978 Washington Post 17 Sept. H1/4 In 1977..snitty bickering between the Hollywood and New York factions of the TV Academy reached a new pitch of schismatic feverishness. 1981 T. BARLING Bikini Red North ii. 58 Don't make me laugh when I want to be snitty. 1986 City Limits 29 May 59 Before we get a snitty letter from Sir Peter we would like to recall the last time the NT staged ‘Othello’. 1987 People 4 May 7/3 A sixteen-year-old orphan, the child of an affair, who lives with her half brother..and his snooty, snitty wife.
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
I lied when I said I'd never been west of Ontario. I stopped in Vancouver on my way back from New Zealand last fall.

quote:
I've heard that many Vancouverites think Toronto is stuck up and snitty. Is it true?
That's hilarious! I mean, if Vancouverites weren't so busy sipping their green tea lattés and eating their gelato, they might have time to look down on Toronto. Basically, the impression I get is that Canada resents Toronto the way America resents New York, which is to say that Toronto thinks its the centre of the universe. But stuck up? No, that's reserved for Vancouver.

(That's not to say that I don't really like the city, and wouldn't gladly have moved there if I'd gotten the job I interviewed for there.)
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
The way it works in the US (in my experience, at least) is that New Yorkers go all over the country exclaiming in loud voices--and often using a lot of profanity--that whatever place they happen to be in is not as good as New York, while the rest of us usually don't think about New York at all.
 
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
 
I think the Arrogant Worms described Toronto the best:

"The rents too high, the airs unclean
The beaches are dirty and the people are mean
And the women are big and the men are dumb
An the children are loopy cuz they live in a slum
The water is polluted and the mayor's a dork
They dress real bad and they think they're New York
In Toronto, Ontario"
 
Posted by Astaril (Member # 7440) on :
 
Tsk. That's not the Arrogant Worms. That's Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie. Although, realistically, if there were three dead *anythings* in a baggie, there'd probably be some worms in there with them... But as to their arrogance, that's questionable. How does one tell if a worm is arrogant?

And, incidentally, I've got to say that even people living just a couple hours north of TO tend to think of it as fairly stuck up... Admittedly, that could be because all the ones that we meet are generally coming to use our land for their cottages, and are of the stuck-up, rich variety. Toronto's really too diverse to classify as anything specific, I think. Not that that stops people [Wink]

[ March 10, 2005, 12:02 PM: Message edited by: Astaril ]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
I miss Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie. [Frown]
 


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