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Posted by Boris (Member # 6935) on :
 
Cause man, I cringe every time I see her.
[Eek!]
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
She is hot in a trampy, I-wouldn't-touch-her-with-your....

...Kinda way.

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
 
Yeah. I can't stand anything about that woman, including her looks.
 
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
 
She reminds me of a really scraggly gefling.
 
Posted by Eaquae Legit (Member # 3063) on :
 
Yes.
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
Her face is frozen - I wonder why . . .
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
pretty much...
 
Posted by A Rat Named Dog (Member # 699) on :
 
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who was totally unimpressed with her appearance. She just looks so ... vacant. I guess some guys like that.
 
Posted by Speed (Member # 5162) on :
 
Yeah, right here. It's like, if you take a picture of her with the exact right angle and the exact right expression, she can look okay (not good, just interesting). Otherwise, she's hideous. They must go through several rolls of film before they find anything they can publish, and sometimes they obviously have to settle.

There is one thing I admire about her, though. She really has developed one heck of an impressive eating disorder. You've got to be kind of impressed when anyone's able to be that consistent with such a punishing regimen of alcoholism and bulemia.

[ January 22, 2005, 11:35 AM: Message edited by: Speed ]
 
Posted by babager (Member # 6700) on :
 
yep pretty fugly [Taunt]
 
Posted by Sopwith (Member # 4640) on :
 
Looks like an inbred collie... long nose, narrow face, huge main of hair.

The problem is, the collie would be smarter...
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
Ugly? No.

Attractive? No. At least, not to me.
 
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
 
she's average or a little below IMO
 
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
 
She's petulant, spoiled, whiny, and self-absorbed. If I could see past that, I could tell you if I thought she was physically attractive but ti doesn't seem worth the bother.
 
Posted by Intelligence3 (Member # 6944) on :
 
She looks like an alien. Hideous. I am not being influenced by the hype or her personality, I thought that the very first time I saw her.
 
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
 
Well, it isn't as though I have to avert my eyes from revulsion every time her picture comes up. But I don't think she's attractive, either. I've never understood just what so many guys see in her, but then, I'm quite accustomed to having my own tastes judged as eccentric.
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
I think her biggest problem is that she's wearing way too much makeup. She's probably a lot cuter on a day to day basis. Lining your lips half an inch above your lipline will make anyone look freaky.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Ugly? Nah. I find her unremarkable looking. Just kind of plain, underneath all the makeup and clothes (or lack thereof). Her public personae is fairly repellant, of course, and if I had to bet I'd say that who she actually is in her private life isn't much better. I don't understand the current fascination with her.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
Physically, she is not ugly, although se makes herself seem that way.

If she were a girl that you met in real life, instead of TV, she could go either way. If she acted pleasant, it would be easy to find her attractive. If she acted like Paris Hilton, it would be easy to find her unattractive.

The problem is that we have been trained to see very beautiful women as ugly when we see them on TV. In Hollywood bizarro land, she *is* ugly. In Hollywood movies, wearing glasses and awkward hair makes a girl the "ugly chick" in a movie.

For instance, Linda Cardellini, Anne Hathaway, and Sandra Bullock are all very beautiful women that have been cast as "ugly chicks" in movies.
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
I thought this seemed appropriate to the thread topic.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
What porter said.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
What Noemon said.
 
Posted by Joldo (Member # 6991) on :
 
I just thought she looked incredibly plastic. As in, molded out of it.
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
Why is it I know I've seen that Linda person but I can't remember where?

IMDB, here I come.

Oh. She was Velma.

[ January 22, 2005, 12:10 PM: Message edited by: PSI Teleport ]
 
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
 
Your problem is that you are looking at her above the neck. Those that find her attractive don't look above her shoulders.
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
This thread is totally hawt.
 
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
 
Ugly, yeah. But she's also just incredibly boring. I will change the channel if she comes on something I'm watching on TV. I just pray to God that she isn't as stupid as she seems to be.
 
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
 
If she were a girl that you met in real life, instead of TV, she could go either way. If she acted pleasant, it would be easy to find her attractive. If she acted like Paris Hilton, it would be easy to find her unattractive.

Exactly. Case in point - Sarah Michelle Gellar. Also blonde. Also other-than-Hollywood-ideal features (check the profile). But she was a fanboy goddess and I submit it's largely on attitude and personality. If Paris carried herself with style, if she smiled openly and without the haughty attitude that always seems to be just under the surface, she'd be very attractive.
 
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
 
OMG, that girl is sooo ugly. She thinks she is all that, but she is just a ho, the way she dresses. She really has her head up her ass.

My dear, I believe the complexion of a few Hatrackers turned a bit green in this thread.
 
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
 
Well, I, for one, wouldn't kick her out of bed.

Unless, you know, she was eating crackers, or something, and getting crumbs everywhere, like, in the sheets and the pillowcases, and stuff... cuz, man, then, out of the bed she would go! I mean, a guy's gotta have standards.
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
Wow. It is rare to hear such open cruelty here.
If Paris Hilton is ugly, that makes me feel like I should put a bag over my head to save the planet some agony.
 
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
 
Kinda why I was focusing on Paris herself and not her appearance.

Cuz think about it. Suppose she read this thread and decided to use these comments to improve herself. Would it do her any good to get surgery, tucks, implants, new hair style, different makeup? No, not really. It's not her appearance that turns people away, I don't think.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
No, it's the fact that she celebrates her incompetence, lack of consideration of other people, and general shallow personality that makes her annoying and, in a non-physical sense, ugly.
 
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
 
Ah right yea, because the thread had nothing to do with her physical appearance.

Just beause you don't like how someone acts doesn't mean you are incapable of seeing wether they are pretty or not. Some people just don't like Hilton's style of caking on the make-up and skimpy clothes, which is fair enough. What isn't fair is going on about how ugly she is because of this.

[ January 22, 2005, 07:02 PM: Message edited by: jebus202 ]
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
jebus, speak to the others in the thread then. Since only 3 people posted after you, and all 3 commented that it WASN'T her looks that made them think she was a ugly, why the hell are you lecturing us?
 
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
 
[This post has been deleted for general obnoxiousness, and an obscenity.]

[ January 23, 2005, 03:15 PM: Message edited by: KathrynHJanitor ]
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
quote:
Oh well maybe I'm saying it to you because I think you're full of [$%#^].
What the hell did I do to you? Why are you being such a jerk?

[ January 23, 2005, 03:16 PM: Message edited by: KathrynHJanitor ]
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
She does not even strike me as ugly inside, just pathetic. I get the sense that she would be the first to agree with the fact that she is shallow.
 
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
 
I'm being a jerk because you didn't seem to get it when I said it nicely that you were full of [$#@%]. So I was a bit more blunt.

You can pretend all you like that when you saw this thread you immediately thought that "ugly" was meant in the context of her personality, or that you can't see past personality and judge looks without them, but that's bull.

[ January 23, 2005, 03:17 PM: Message edited by: KathrynHJanitor ]
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Since I'm not arrogant enough to actually speak for others as you are, I was speaking only of my opinion of her, not of anyone else's.

And, I was clearly, to those who read and comprehend English, saying that her ugliness was NOT physical.

So back the f*&^ up and get out of my face.

Dagonee
 
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
 
Heh, or will you ****ing kill me, dawg?
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Leave me the hell alone.
 
Posted by Lupus (Member # 6516) on :
 
quote:
just beause you don't like how someone acts doesn't mean you are incapable of seeing wether they are pretty or not.
I've actually found that how a girl acts can have a big impact on how attractive I find her. I think a lot of looks are subjective, and when someone's attitude rubs me the wrong way I don't tend to find her physically attractive either.
 
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
 
If I had known you were so easy to offend I would have played nicer.

You "adults" or supposed to be so secure. [Dont Know]

Unfortunately my conscience is nagging me to extend an apology. So I'm sorry, Dag.
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
You know, this place(Hatrack) is where a good number of people have been attracted to each other for what is inside before what is outside. How many marriages are there?
Therefore, when these men say they do not find Paris Hilton attractive because she seems vapid and mean, I believe them.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Thank you jebus.
 
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
 
I thought Paris Hilton was the Hilton in Paris...
 
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
 
One word: spankable
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
digging_holes:
That might be what she is named after.

[ January 22, 2005, 09:18 PM: Message edited by: Elizabeth ]
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
Talent makes people sexier I think. If a person has talent and intelligence and beauty, it drives me happily insane.
 
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
 
I'd add compassion and playfulness. You could be talented, intelligent and beautiful and still be cold or haughty.

Warmth and humor go a long way towards improving one's appearance.
 
Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
 
Warmth and humor go a long way towards improving one's appearance.

That's why I tink Tina Fey is super hot. [Smile]
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
Very true. Smiles and laughs are sexy...

I find it just a bit annoying that her and that girl are getting ANOTHER show... The first one was amusing as a socialogical study, but the second one, more Paris Hilton and Nicole doing stupid and rude things -_-
 
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
 
Well, if you're speaking strictly physical, the things that bother me about her is A. The haughty scowl B. The scorcher tan (it makes me wince) C. Her body -- because it is the body of someone who doesn't have to do anything in the way of work. I think its really attractive when people either have a really strong body because they have a physically demanding job or when they are soft at the edges because they have things like a job or a family or any other passion that is more important to them than being a supermodel. Maybe that's just me. It seems that Paris Hilton exists to party. I guess it's all shes good for...seems harsh, but that's my impression.
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
I admit I am mostly jealous of her wealth.
Why can't I be rich? [Frown]
I'd do such good things with the money... And I'd be so boring no one would write about me in tabloids. [Cry]
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
The you that's you now would do that, but would the you that grew up a billionaire with no responsibility?

(Not aimed specifically at you, Syn, but at all of us.)

Dagonee
 
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
 
Well, if you're speaking strictly physical, the things that bother me about her is A. The haughty scowl [...]

Not to belabor the point, but all of those are indications of poor attitude and priorities.
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
I wonder about that... Perhaps I'd be the same me even as a billionaire.
Not caring about hair, clothes, make-up, drugs, alcohol. Such stuff bores me.
I'd probaly get made fun of a lot too... hmmm
But, what if I was born a billionaire and was shallow and squandered my money instead of going to college and studying all the stuff I want to study and going to a lot of operas.
Tons of operas.
Maybe if I was reincarnated and managed to keep my quirky personality.. Then I'd go to about 400 concerts and operas a year and never, ever get rip roaring drunk, do cocaine or do a porn...
 
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
 
quote:
Not to belabor the point, but all of those are indications of poor attitude and priorities.
Exactly, which is why I believe I can safely say she is physically ugly [Smile]
 
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
 
quote:
The you that's you now would do that, but would the you that grew up a billionaire with no responsibility?

(Not aimed specifically at you, Syn, but at all of us.)

I think a lot of that has to do with upbringing.

I can tell you right now that had my parents somehow become billionaires before I was born, and I was raised with all that fabulous wealth, they would never have allowed me to become spoiled. They have too much of a work ethic, and they made sure I got one, too. Both my parents, my father especially, were born poor, and clawed their way up so that my sister and I could be born middle-class. Had they managed to claw all the way up to the level of downright wealthy, they still would have raised us to appreciate what we had and that nothing is worth having that isn't worth working for.

I don't actually know this for a fact, but my suspicions run strongly toward the notion that Mumsy and Dadsy Hilton didn't try to put such notions into Paris's head. (Of course, they were also born wealthy. That can't help.) At least, she certainly doesn't act like it. I think your kids will only grow up as spoiled brats if you let it happen. If you teach them better than that, then they can be hardworking and generous even if they don't personally know what it's like to not have money.

Of course, that, like all my ideas on childrearing, is purely theoretical. I have no children. I don't have much money, either, so I don't know what it's like to be rich. Maybe it really does change a person. But I like to think it doesn't, because I plan to be fabulously wealthy someday, but only if it can come without the expense of having spoiled barbarian children like the Hiltons have.
 
Posted by Speed (Member # 5162) on :
 
quote:
That's why I tink Tina Fey is super hot.
Wow, I'm glad someone else thinks that. I thought it was just me.

My wife is always saying how cute she thinks famous people are, which doesn't bother me, but because I never find myself doing that she thought that I must have been offended by it. So one day a month or so ago we were out to dinner, and she asked me what famous people I thought were attractive. I thought and thought... I know there are a few, but I was at a loss. And after several minutes, the only one I could come up with was Tina Fey.

She is super hot, and I'm glad to know I'm not completely demented for thinking that. [Smile]
 
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
 
Tina Fey is super hot. No rationalizations needed. There aren't special reasons that she's super hot. She just is.
 
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
 
Dude... how can you NOT love that lazy eye...

[Angst]
 
Posted by Bork (Member # 7283) on :
 
I have seen certain pictures of Paris Hilton where she was physically attractive, but not beautiful by any means.

But i agree with the people that are saying that alot of her unatractiveness is because of her attitude.

One who I think is really attractive is Jennifer Garner, she's very pretty and if you see her on any shows like Leno or Letterman she has this really great personality, which makes her 10 times more attractive.

She's nothing like any of her movie or TV persona's that i've seen.
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
quote:
or that you can't see past personality and judge looks without them, but that's bull.
Are you serious?

I think that Myr said it best...Harsh is the word. She has a nice body for a skinny girl, but I don't think she is all that attractive, and I thought before she ever opened her mouth.

But if you think that attitude has nothing to do with attractiveness then I think you are wrong. I have seen a ton of women who would have been pretty if not for the scowl they constantly wear, or if their smiles ever went past their eyes, and that is all about attitude.

Some women are beautiful despite their attitude...but I think the point if this thread is that Paris Hilton isn't one of those.

As far as being critical, I feel that is fine. I am not hot at all...but I have never claimed to be, or gotten a TV show because of my porn home video either. I don't flash photographers, or spend millions on my wardrobe. When the porn tape came out I felt a bit sorry for her...but now that she has CHOSEN to be in the public limelight, and her only talent is looking like a ho and acting like a 4 year old.....well, I don;pt feel sorry at all now, I just feel distaste. She doesn't even rate disgust....just distaste.

She is a ho, and to be honest I could probably find a better looking one here in town, for a lot less money. [Big Grin]

Kwea

[ January 23, 2005, 09:58 AM: Message edited by: Kwea ]
 
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
 
[Homer Simpson]
mmmm... Tina...
[/Homer]
 
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
 
quote:
She is a ho, and to be honest I could probably find a better looking one here in town, for a lot less money. [Big Grin]
[Eek!] [ROFL] [ROFL] [ROFL]
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
She is well-groomed. Bright teeth, shaped eyebrows, clear skin, silky hair. That's the basis of physical attractiveness.

I wouldn't call her ugly, but I wouldn't say she was overall "attractive" to me, either, not in the "attracts me" sense. She has dead eyes (IMO), just like Anna Nicole Smith and Martha Stewart. That is a big turn-off in my book. It doesn't feel like I would be interacting with a real person, and inauthenticity smells more than body odor. It's a rotting stink.

On the other hand, well-groomed women with a light in their eyes, with interesting things going on in their minds, with voices that have intriguing things to say, with quirky sharp brains and generous spirits -- they are attractive (IMO).

So, ugly? Not in my opinion. But yes, unattractive. No magic, no interest, no point.

[ January 23, 2005, 11:54 AM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
I agree, but I still think she is attractive in that haughty british royalty way. There is something fascinating to me about people who live that way, and for whom appearance is everything.
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
quote:
She has dead eyes (IMO), just like Anna Nicole Smith and Martha Stewart
I chuckled a bit when I read Martha Stewart there, picturing here in the dead eyes category (imagine a zombie Martha!) Thanks CT (((hugs)))
[Cool]

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
I find I cannot be attracted to celebrities whose photos consist of them posed, unsmiling, surrounded by golden light or draped over furniture looking deadly serious. I like to see people look natural and happy. I often think people dressed up at an awards show or a premiere are less attractive because they're too dressed up and the glint in their eye has gone out.

Example: One of my favourite pictures of a celebrity is one of Billy Boyd. He's outside somewhere and it's cold (tip of nose is red) and he's in a jacket and scarf and he's grinning happily.

(I tried to find it, but I couldn't)
 
Posted by Bork (Member # 7283) on :
 
Funny you should mention the dead Martha Stewart, several years back when she first started her magazine 'Martha Stewart Living' mad magazine put a fake cover on the back of there magazine that said Martha Stewart dying.

It showed this grave with two arms sticking out of it, one holding a watering can and the other holding a flower pot. And it featured fake articles like Knitting your own death shrowd, and potpouri scented embalming fluid, it's a good thing!

Heh heh, I know it's off topic but it's humorous, I tried to find it online but all i found were some pictures of a guy that has been crushed by a cargo container...

[ January 23, 2005, 03:36 PM: Message edited by: Bork ]
 
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
 
You fellas must be blind

She's got that MadOwl, crusty squint down.

O_o
 
Posted by Boris (Member # 6935) on :
 
Sorry, that's the too much cocaine, marijuana and extasy squint.
 
Posted by Godric (Member # 4587) on :
 
I, for one, think she's rather ugly. But almost everyone I talk to disagrees...
 
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
 
After visiting Foobonic, I thought that was how all Jatraqueras looked.
 


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