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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/23/ebay.sandwich.ap/index.html

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A woman who said her 10-year-old grilled cheese sandwich bore the image of the Virgin Mary will be getting a lot more bread after the item sold for $28,000 on eBay...

"It's a part of pop culture that's immediately and widely recognizable," spokesman Monty Kerr told The Miami Herald. "We knew right away we wanted to have it."...

Photos posted on eBay show what can be viewed as a woman's face emblazoned on the sandwich, a bite taken out of one end. Bidding closed Monday.

"I would like all people to know that I do believe that this is the Virgin Mary Mother of God," Duyser, a work-from-home jewelry designer, said in the casino's statement.

The online auction site initially pulled the sale, saying it didn't post joke items. The page was restored after the company was convinced that Duyser would deliver on the bid, said eBay spokesman Hani Durzy.

Why Mary? If this is a woman's face, why would it be Mary's? Why not Sigourney Weaver (I think it has Sigourney Weaver's jawline)? I know that our minds look for patterns and grab hold of anything that could remotely resemble of a face and fill in the details, but I'm trying not to doubt this woman's claim that she's convinced it's Mary in the sandwich.

Why would God do something so pointless? And if you really thought that you were being communicated with from God, why on earth would you sell it? for money? TO A CASINO!?
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
Why, so that lots of people could see it of course.

Also, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss things for pointlessness. After all, the LDS church does many things under simply the heading of "because God says so" which seem similarly pointless to non-members.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
It actually looks a lot like Fay Wray to me. I mean, the woman is clearly wearing lipstick and a bob.
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
I think it looks like my Mom. . .

Hey, what the--?
 
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
 
It does look like Fay Wray, doesn't it?

This is obviously a promotional ploy by Peter Jackson to stir up controversy for his forthcoming remake...
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
I'm wondering about the automatic assumption that it's the face of a woman for whom we do not have a depiction. There have been five million pictures painted of Mary, but no one actually knows what she looks like. Is she the Universal Woman that any woman without a definite identity is assumed to be her?
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
Sheesh. How can so many people be so wrong???

Look at the unnaturally high cheekbones, the mutilated image of the nose, the sculpted jawline...

It's Michael Jackson, for crying out loud! [Razz]

And the Virgin Mary weeps.
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
I really can't conceive of paying $28,000 for a sandwich I wasn't even going to eat.
 
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
 
Mary *is* somewhat of a universal woman to Catholics, Kat, yes.
 
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
 
Okay, I admit my first thought when I saw it was, "Madonna." But not that Madonna. The singing Madonna. (At least we know what she looks like.)
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
I guess this is another chapter in the long and storied history of relic retail.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
What really gets me is that if the Virgin Mary is manifesting on sandwiches, she clearly WANTS to be eaten. Putting her on display like this would seem to defeat the whole purpose of appearing as a foodstuff.
 
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
 
My random thoughts as I read this:

I think I need to start making more sandwiches - $28k for a freaking sandwich!
Ewww! 10-year-old cheese sandwich! I'm surprised you can see anything at all (other than green fuzzies)
Somehow I can't quite pictures Jesus going "Lookee! I put a picture of my mommy on this lady's sandwich!"
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
http://silent-movies.com/Ladies/Wray/Wray21.jpg
 
Posted by Sara Sasse (Member # 6804) on :
 
Wray was a good call.

I bet there was no mold because it is made of Wonder Bread, margerine, and Velveeta.
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
Whatever happened to her, anyway? [Wink]

There's a face on the electric box on a light pole outside my friend's apartment. It's freaky.
 
Posted by Lost Ashes (Member # 6745) on :
 
It makes me remember an episode of the old John Laroquette Show where they thought they saw the face of Christ on a dirty wall of the bus station.

Then the rain came and washed away the layers of dirt to reveal that it had just been an old Willie Nelson poster. Of course, the storyline did bring up the point that sometimes all it takes is for something to seem miraculous for it to have a profound effect on people.
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
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Okay, I admit my first thought when I saw it was, "Madonna." But not that Madonna. The singing Madonna.
That's also the first thing my (male) co-worker said when he saw the news story about it.

(doesn't really look like anyone in particular to me)

FG
 
Posted by Bella Bee (Member # 7027) on :
 
There was a guy in England a couple of years ago who found the face of the Virgin Mary on a pork crackling. He put it in a glass case and people came for miles to see it.

The real question is, how often do you look, really look at your sandwich/crackling/pizza? The virgin might be manifesting all over the place every day and no-one notices.
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
Why would you pay $28,000 for a ruddy sandwich?
And, furthermore, why is it that nothing of mine is worth $28,000? I need money!
[Grumble] *sulk*
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
Sara, I think you're right.
 
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
 
"I have some good news and bad news. The good news, we have a deal with McDonald's. The bad news, we lost the Wonderbead account."

-Trevor
 
Posted by Avadaru (Member # 3026) on :
 
You're all on the wrong track...it's clearly Shirley Temple. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Sara Sasse (Member # 6804) on :
 
No way, katharina!

I'm getting way scared of trans fats.
 
Posted by Tater (Member # 7035) on :
 
No, that thing looks like that scene from Sleepy Hollow where all those people's faces are in the tree.
Jesus's head is on the wall of my friend's bathroom. Seriously, he's there. [Smile]

[ November 23, 2004, 07:24 PM: Message edited by: Tater ]
 
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
Does it anger anyone else to no end that this woman made nearly 30k off a grilled cheese sandwhich that 99% of us would've immediately eaten had we even managed to notice the interesting likeness it contained?
 
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
 
From the article that Katharina linked to - now Hello Kitty is in on the act.

Except this one looks a little... um, fabricated.
 
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
 
I can't wait for a business to pop up that will put your likeness on a grilled cheese sandwhich for a nominal fee.
 
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
 
Now that, Bob, is a GREAT idea.

Now you can preserve your loved one's faces in tha old age medium traditionally reserved for mothers of Christ and cartoon cats. Grilled cheese portraits for the masses!
 
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
 
I'm just irritated she found someone gullible enough to buy the sandwich.

-Trevor
 
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
yeah, that hello kitty one looks like they burnt the toast and then went back and scraped the likeness into it.
 
Posted by Chaeron (Member # 744) on :
 
I would have selectively moistened the bread to achieve the desired pattern myself.
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
Actually, there's a Hello Kitty toaster that toasts her image into the bread. I'm willing to bet they have that toaster.
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
[ROFL]

[Laugh] PEOPLE ARE BIDDING ON THAT! THAT IS SO FREAKING HILARIOUS!
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
(I apologize if this offends anyone.)

What I'm having trouble picturing is the day, ten years ago, when this woman said, "Hmm, maybe I'll have grilled cheese for lunch." Took one bite, and then said, "Holy Mother of God!"
 
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
quote:
After all, the LDS church does many things under simply the heading of "because God says so" which seem similarly pointless to non-members.
Not just the LDS church.
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
Oh, of course not. But the LDS church is the one that Kat follows -- for her to think such beliefs by other churches/believers about what God does or does not think is "pointless" are wrong wouldn't be hypocritical.
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
fugu, I think you're an idiot. It's possible I am also an idiot. Even if I am, it is not hypocritical for me to think that about you.

[ November 24, 2004, 01:15 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
 
Posted by Christy (Member # 4397) on :
 
Sara and Kat,

Tom's mom swore off of bologna and white bread when she found one she had made for the kids a year later under the seat of her car and it "looked good enough to eat" [Angst]
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
Is it wrong that that makes me wistful for white bread? I haven't bought any in ages, but when I do occasionally buy bread, it always, always goes bad well before I eat it all.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
quote:
What I'm having trouble picturing is the day, ten years ago, when this woman said, "Hmm, maybe I'll have grilled cheese for lunch." Took one bite, and then said, "Holy Mother of God!"
[ROFL]
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
Just to postulate a non-silly reason for God to put an image on that bread, possibly to bring that woman to greater spirituality. Which it certainly seems to have done [Smile] .
 
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
 
<intones>God works in mysterious ways.</intone>

-Trevor
 
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
 
That settles it, now I need a grilled cheese sandwich. Think I can manage to burn in an image of Bill Gates? LOL
 
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
 
Goody, I'd be burning that image OFF my sandwich. Unless you want to bite Bill Gates.
 
Posted by signal (Member # 6828) on :
 
Thats not so cool. It doesn't even cry tears of tomato soup.
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
Sheesh, don't these people know how to cook grilled cheese? When it's black it's been cooked for TOO LONG.
 
Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
 
I love how the person who did the Hello Kitty parody is going to make, as of now, at least sixty-one bucks off of it.

--j_k
 
Posted by Samuel Bush (Member # 460) on :
 
Greater spirituality . . . and 28,000 bucks.
 
Posted by Samuel Bush (Member # 460) on :
 
I keep growing potatoes in my garden hoping to find one shaped like the Angel Moroni. That ought to be worth some dough to someone.
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
I'd bet that would convert a few people to the LDS church, all by itself.
 
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
 
quote:
I bet there was no mold because it is made of Wonder Bread, margerine, and Velveeta
Sara, that made me laugh out loud! But do you think she might have added some Miracle Whip?

I have a rule never to eat anything that's called by a name describing what you do with it instead of what it is. If it's called "spread" or "topping" or "whitener" or anything like that, then I might polish the furniture with it but I make it a rule never to put it in my mouth and swallow it.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
But then you deprive yourself of Cheez Wiz!
 
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
 
Is Cheez Wiz food???? I thought it was a toy!
 


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