This is topic Basic body maintenance question (medicos! I'm ignorant about my own body!) in forum Books, Films, Food and Culture at Hatrack River Forum.
As I get older, I find that if I'm active, my knees bother as I go up or down stairs for the next day. So now I've decided that I need to start icing my knees after my activity.
But here's the question -- how long should I ice them? For an hour? Two? All day if I can?
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
If you use cream cheese frosting, you've got two to three hours at best of light use before it'll get all runny.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
If I started using that, it would counteract all the good affects of being more active. I might as well sit on my butt reading the 'rack all day.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
Better than sitting on other body parts at least.
Hobbes Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Ummm....cream cheese frosting.....*licks lips*
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Or sitting on somebody else's butt.
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Maybe I'm 12, but I'm vastly amused by the juxtaposition of cream cheese frosting and butt in this thread.
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
Farmgirl: Well, I suppose that's better than licking Porter's knees.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Taking an anti-inflammatory might be better and easier than icing your knees.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
The question is.... how much does Bev like icing?
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I can't believe I didn't think of taking ibuprofin before. *thaps self*
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
Didn't you turn 30 not too long ago? If you're knees ache now... .
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Hey, watch it! Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
I'm 37. I always keep a knee brace in my tennis bag for whichever knee decides it might want to ache that day. If they both ache at the same time, I take that as a sign I should just go home.
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
*is highly amused by this thread*
Posted by dread pirate romany (Member # 6869) on :
May I also suggest topical arnica? Another good one is Jason Tea Tree Oil Mineral gel. I have osteoarthritis, and those are the inly things I need to use. Of course, if you then want Bev to lick iceing off your knees, that would taste nasty.
Posted by kaioshin00 (Member # 3740) on :
I dont think anyone would fe mur better after having their knees licked. But that's just me.
Posted by School4ever (Member # 5575) on :
Porter,
My husband has the same problem except now his shoulders are achy too. We can't figure out what to do about it.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
massage.....
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Can nobody answer my question?
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Elevate and leave the ice on no more than half an hour at a time. Wrap it when you're up and about.
And take two ibuprofen.
If you've strained some muscles that's all it should take. If it seems to be a continual problem, go see your doctor. Knees aren't supposed to hurt just because you use them.
Posted by Book (Member # 5500) on :
Stretching is crucial to good knees, regardless of weight. Stretch for twenty minutes before and after exercise doing quads, hamstring, and IT band.
How does it hurt? Does it hurt when you start from a squatting position and stand, like, right underneath your kneecap? Because I know what that is, and there are some stretches I can reccommend.
Posted by kaioshin00 (Member # 3740) on :
quote: The most common tendinitis about the knee is irritation of the patellar tendon. Commonly called "jumper’s knee", patellar tendinitis is an inflammation of the tendon that attaches the patella (kneecap) to the tibia (shin bone).
quote: In many cases, you will notice a sudden onset of aching and pain in the area just below the kneecap after sports or recreational activities. You may notice pain when landing from a jump or when going up and down stairs. There is sometimes pain at rest, particularly after sitting with the knees bent for a period of time. Swelling in the area just below the kneecap is common, as well as a feeling of weakness at the knee when pain is felt.
quote: Treatment has two objectives: to reduce the inflammation and to allow the tendon to heal.
When the knee is painful and swollen, you must rest it. Avoid stair climbing and jumping sports. Keep your knee straight while sitting, and avoid squatting. Let pain be your guide. You are aggravating the condition if you continue activities while experiencing pain. Mild discomfort or ache is not a problem but definite pain is a cause for concern.
Ice your knee for 20 minutes, two or three times a day and after any sporting activities–apply a bag of crushed ice over a towel. This reduces swelling, inflammation and pain.
Hope this helps.
Posted by Sara Sasse (Member # 6804) on :
mph, I too will try to find a good sports med article for you.
Strengthening quads, stretching hamstrings/calves/IT band, using good technique, ice for 20 min or so, and anti-inflammatories are all good general things to do.
What do you mean by "my knees bother me"? Pain (and where, how much, what kind), crunchy sounds, weakness, slippage ...?
Posted by Lupus (Member # 6516) on :
quote: Can nobody answer my question?
but making sarcastic comments is much more fun.
joining in:
Decapitation also generally works rather well in getting rid of all sorts of pain. Though some people find the long term side effects to be distasteful (ie: decomposition)
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
I find stretching and yoga tibia great way to decrease joint pain and soreness of all types.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
This is not what I was thinking of when I read "basic body maintenance question." But then I realized that it was MPH, and so of course the thread wouldn't be about Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
...auto repair? That's what I figured it was about.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
O_O
That was your 1,000th post.
(Admittedly, it made me laugh.)
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
I told you I wasn't posting a landmark.
But I was being serious. and I still can't figure out what you were thinking of.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
And I believed you.
I was talking about masturbation, of course. What else?
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
:blink: I totally don't follow your thought process, but I'm okay with that. Our definitions of "maintenance" must be different.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
"Body maintenance" for some reason makes me thinking of keeping all of the body's levels (energy, stress, libido) in what the engineer in me wants to describe as "nominal operating ranges." Being male, the first of these that sprung to mind was libido, and the curbing thereof. And of course it makes the parenthetical portion of the title somewhat more amusing. Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
quote: but I'm okay with that
...means I'm not asking for an explanation. But, as it happens, I think I'm going to stop asking people how they are and start asking if they are currently functioning in their nominal operating ranges.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
I figured you weren't asking for an explanation but chose to feign ignorance.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
It's not an injury or muscle strain -- it's all in the joint.
No crunching sounds or anything -- it just feels a little tender under the kneecap when going up or down stairs.
I actually *have* talked to my doctor about it, and he said that it is probably just a consequence of getting a little older. I've done Aikido for 7 or 8 years, but my knees have only bothered me this last year or so.
It's my doctor that told me to ice it. I just didn't know long you are supposed to ice things for. I've generally been from the "Don't do anything to fix an ailment, not even cough medicine, until you have to go the hospital" school of thought. Or lack of thought.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Whoa. Way to re-rail the thread there, mph.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
He also IMed me the following message: "shame on you" Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Oh, in addition to energy levels I was also thinking of the fluid systems (blood, saliva, urine, et cetera). Like tank levels in a process control problem.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Well he's right there. This is a family board, you know. Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote: But, as it happens, I think I'm going to stop asking people how they are and start asking if they are currently functioning in their nominal operating ranges.
Didn't Data on TNG do that?
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
*snort*
Of course, if he'd started this thread on Sakeriver... man, I love that place. Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Okay, then I won't ever be asking YOU this instead of "how are you," because I really am not interested in anyone's fluid levels but my own.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
quote:Didn't Data on TNG do that?
He did indeed.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
M-kay. When I can't reply without multiple posts showing up while I'm typing, it's time for bed. Have fun, all. Good luck with your knee, mph.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Nighty night, ElJay
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I think my knee will be fine. I'm doing things differently and trying to take care of me body before it breaks.
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
I'm giving this thread a good O.o
Posted by Stan the man (Member # 6249) on :
quote: Can nobody answer my question?
I came into this a bit late. All aches and pains can be solved by chopping off the part of the body that is aching and paining. Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Stan -- I'm confused as to what you mean. Could you demonstrate by getting rid of a headache next time you have one?
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Posted by kwsni (Member # 1831) on :
Sara, do you have any reccomendations for a mild wrist injury? I've been lunging a horse more often than usual lately, and the wrist on my whip hand aches when I crack the whip, use a doorknob, or try to open a jar or something with that hand. I was thinking of wrapping it to give it more support, but I don't know if that will hurt the mobility of that hand or not.
Ni!
Posted by School4ever (Member # 5575) on :
So what about if there are crunching noises. My husband has had me listen to his shoulders as he lifts weights, and there are definitely crunchings.
Posted by kwsni (Member # 1831) on :
::shameless bump for sara::
Ni!
Posted by Mara (Member # 2232) on :
That sounds like tendinitis as well - many of the same recommendations would apply. Ice (10-20 min 2-3 times/day), rest, and antiinflammatories are good while it still hurts. After it feels better, do stretches and strengthening exercises. Talk to a physical therapist or an occupational therapist for expert opinions.
Caveat: if there's tingling or numbness in your hand, there's probably nerve involvement. Be VERY careful with it, follow the above recommendations, and go see an occupational therapist.
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