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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :

I made the call a few hours ago, but now I'm making it the official Hobbes approved call.

Bush will be in office for another 4 years.

Hobbes [Smile]

Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :

Mmm. I don't know that people will officially call this for a little while, but I have to admit that if HOBBES has called it, it must be true.

[Big Grin]

Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :

I HOPE NOT...
If Bush wins folks like me are completely screwed...

Posted by unicornwhisperer (Member # 294) on :

Why?

Posted by The Silverblue Sun (Member # 1630) on :

Bush Wins.

Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :

Because they will all be round up and shot, just like they were during these past 4 years. [Wink]

[ November 03, 2004, 01:59 AM: Message edited by: mr_porteiro_head ]

Posted by Fitz (Member # 4803) on :

I'm sorry, but you're wrong.

Posted by Heffaji (Member # 3669) on :

Now thats a leader I can get behind.

Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :

Probably because on the socio-economic ladder, I'm on the bottom.
Bush's first targets seem to be a lot of helpful programs... Like Section 8 housing to name one...
I have GOT to get a better job soon.

Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :

I'm torn between being entirely depressed by what seems to be the inevitable outcome and being ecstatic over the great turnout.

Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :

turnout was awesome. And, the pollsters will have to re-think the conventional wisdom that high turnout favors demos. I head several people on the news tonight, Brokaw among them, remark on the high turnout among Evangelical Christians.

Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :

Let me reiterate-
I am totally screwed...

Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :

"I head several people on the news tonight, Brokaw among them, remark on the high turnout among Evangelical Christians."

Yep. I can now say "I told you so" when people call me on my assertion that evangelical Christians were going to ruin the country. [Smile]

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

Actually, I thought your assertion was about fundamentalists? Or was that fanatics?

You do know there's a VAST difference between "evangelical" and "fundamentalist," don't you?

The terms are not synonyms, nor are the descriptors mutually exclusive. A Christian can be evangelical, fundamentalist, both, or neither.

Dagonee

[ November 03, 2004, 09:28 AM: Message edited by: Dagonee ]

Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :

Perhaps he means the set of Christians that includes fundamentalists, evangelicals, and those who are both fundamentalist and evangelical?

Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :

I don't think the exit polls will give a break-down quite that specific...

Hobbes [Smile]

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

quote:
Perhaps he means the set of Christians that includes fundamentalists, evangelicals, and those who are both fundamentalist and evangelical?

Not according to his previous posts on the subject.

Dagonee

Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :

Specifically, I believe that a very small minority of religious fanatics is the single greatest danger to the country. Broadly, I think that right-wing Christian groups, allowing themselves to be swayed by these fanatics themselves for a number of reasons, will constitute the army of numbers necessary to ruin the country.

I think if the fanatics were rooted out, the rest of the religious right, which is in general slightly more reasonable, would no longer pose a serious threat to American society.

[ November 03, 2004, 10:57 AM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]

Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :

I tell you it's refreshing to feel that you think I'm a danger to America Tom.

Let's see, there was record turnout in all areas - record registration among young people, huge voter drives in the inner cities registering millions of minorities, and the country went solidly for Bush. NOt only did he win the electoral college handily, he also won the popular vote - being the first man to get over 50% since his father. The Republicans also picked up seats in both house and Senate - instead of narrowly holding their majority in the Senate they now have a comfortable majority.

More people voted than anyone expected and Bush was a clear winner.

So...what fringe fanatic group is ruining the country? Seems to me that this is the clearest victory for a party in decades. It would take a lot more than just a fringe of the religious right to pull this off.