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"Clever" is the word that perhaps describes ENTPs best. The professor who juggles half a dozen ideas for research papers and grant proposals in his mind while giving a highly entertaining lecture on an abstruse subject is a classic example of the type. So is the stand-up comedian whose lampoons are not only funny, but incisively accurate.

ENTPs are usually verbally as well as cerebrally quick, and generally love to argue--both for its own sake, and to show off their often-impressive skills. They tend to have a perverse sense of humor as well, and enjoy playing devil's advocate. They sometimes confuse, even inadvertently hurt, those who don't understand or accept the concept of argument as a sport.

ENTPs are as innovative and ingenious at problem-solving as they are at verbal gymnastics; on occasion, however, they manage to outsmart themselves. This can take the form of getting found out at "sharp practice"--ENTPs have been known to cut corners without regard to the rules if it's expedient -- or simply in the collapse of an over-ambitious juggling act. Both at work and at home, ENTPs are very fond of "toys"--physical or intellectual, the more sophisticated the better. They tend to tire of these quickly, however, and move on to new ones.

ENTPs are basically optimists, but in spite of this (perhaps because of it?), they tend to become extremely petulant about small setbacks and inconveniences. (Major setbacks they tend to regard as challenges, and tackle with determin- ation.) ENTPs have little patience with those they consider wrongheaded or unintelligent, and show little restraint in demonstrating this. However, they do tend to be extremely genial, if not charming, when not being harassed by life in general.

In terms of their relationships with others, ENTPs are capable of bonding very closely and, initially, suddenly, with their loved ones. Some appear to be deceptively offhand with their nearest and dearest; others are so demonstrative that they succeed in shocking co-workers who've only seen their professional side. ENTPs are also good at acquiring friends who are as clever and entertaining as they are. Aside from those two areas, ENTPs tend to be oblivious of the rest of humanity, except as an audience -- good, bad, or potential.

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INTPs are pensive, analytical folks. They may venture so deeply into thought as to seem detached, and often actually are oblivious to the world around them.
Precise about their descriptions, INTPs will often correct others (or be sorely tempted to) if the shade of meaning is a bit off. While annoying to the less concise, this fine discrimination ability gives INTPs so inclined a natural advantage as, for example, grammarians and linguists.

INTPs are relatively easy-going and amenable to most anything until their principles are violated, about which they may become outspoken and inflexible. They prefer to return, however, to a reserved albeit benign ambiance, not wishing to make spectacles of themselves.

A major concern for INTPs is the haunting sense of impending failure. They spend considerable time second-guessing themselves. The open-endedness (from Perceiving) conjoined with the need for competence (NT) is expressed in a sense that one's conclusion may well be met by an equally plausible alternative solution, and that, after all, one may very well have overlooked some critical bit of data. An INTP arguing a point may very well be trying to convince himself as much as his opposition. In this way INTPs are markedly different from INTJs, who are much more confident in their competence and willing to act on their convictions.

Mathematics is a system where many INTPs love to play, similarly languages, computer systems--potentially any complex system. INTPs thrive on systems. Understanding, exploring, mastering, and manipulating systems can overtake the INTP's conscious thought. This fascination for logical wholes and their inner workings is often expressed in a detachment from the environment, a concentration where time is forgotten and extraneous stimuli are held at bay. Accomplishing a task or goal with this knowledge is secondary.

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Sound like me?

[ September 21, 2004, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: Xaposert ]
 

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Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
I cannot recall if I am an ISTJ or an ISTP.
 

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Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
I'm ISFP: Introverted, Sensing, Feeling, Perceiving...

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Besides being concrete in speech and utilitarian in getting what they want, the Composer Artisans are informative and attentive in their social roles. Composers are just as reluctant to direct others' behavior as are Performers, though they appear even more so, since they are more attentive.

While all the Artisans are artistic in nature, Composers (perhaps ten per cent of the population) seem to excel in the "fine arts," having not only a natural grace of movement, but also an innate sense what fits and what doesn't fit in artistic compositions. Of course, composing must not be thought of as only writing music, but as bringing into harmonious form any aspect of the world of the five senses, and so when an especially gifted painter, sculptor, choreographer, film maker, songwriter, chef, decorator, or fashion designer shows up, he or she is likely to be an Composer.

Composers, like the other Artisans, have a special talent for "tactical" variation, and such talent differs radically from that possessed by Idealists, Rationals, and Guardians (who have their own unique and inherent abilities). As the word "tactical" implies, Artisans keep closely in "touch" with the physical world, their senses keenly tuned to reality. But, while the Crafter is attuned to the tool and its uses, the Composer is attuned to sensory variation in color, line, texture, aroma, flavor, tone-seeing, touching, smelling, tasting, and hearing in harmony. This extreme concreteness and sensuality seems to come naturally to the Composers, as if embedded "in the warp and woof" of their make.

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ISFPs are the first to hear the different drummer. Many eagerly plunge into new fashions, avant garde experiences, 'hip' trends--some even setting the trends.
More in touch with the reality of their senses than their INFP counterparts, ISFPs live in the here and now. Their impulses yearn to be free, and are often loosed when others least expect it. The ISFP who continually represses these impulses feels 'dead inside' and may eventually cut and run. (One ISFP friend has become nonambulatory within the past few years. He will still, on impulse, leave home in the middle of the night and go to Las Vegas or wherever, regardless of the difficulties of his physical condition.)

ISFPs may be quite charming and ingratiating on first acquaintance, flowing with compliments which may (or may not) be deserved. On other occasions, the same individual may be aloof and detached. Some ISFP males are fiercely competitive, especially in sport or table games, and may have great difficulty losing. This competitive nature, also seen in other SP types, sometimes fosters 'lucky,' 'gut' feelings and a willingness to take risks.

Organized education is difficult for the majority of ISFPs, and many drop out before finishing secondary education. Their interest can be held better through experiential learning, at which many excel. ISFPs will practice playing an instrument or honing a favored skill for hours on end, not so much as practice as for the joy of the experience.

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ISFPs are less fantasy-oriented than INFPs. These types are often confused, however, INFPs lean strongly to daydreams, poetry, prose and more philosophical pursuits; ISFPs often live out 'id' experiences rather than writing or even talking about them.
ISFJs are driven by the conventional, by 'should's and 'ought's; ISFPs internalize their Feeling (by nature a judging function) which bursts out spontaneously and leaves as quickly and mysteriously as it came.

Because of these variant expressions of Feeling judgement, ISFPs are sometimes confused with ESFJs, but keep themselves more aloof, more often concealing the feelings that ESFJs are so apt to expose.

ESFPs express thoughts more readily (and, in the main, skillfully). ISFPs can and do perform admirably in the spotlight, but generally have little to say about the performance. For example, few ISFPs would be disc-jockeys, a field strongly represented by ES_Ps.

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Introverted Feeling
Feeling, unbridled by the external forces of society and substance, is the dominant function. ISFPs spontaneously develop their own codes and credos, about which they are quite sober and intense. ISFPs are questors, driven to find the pure and ideal, as personally and individually defined. Feeling may temporarily turn outward, but cannot be long sustained beyond its cloistered home.
If the individual has values greater than herself, feeling may express itself in valiant acts of selflessness. Turned in upon self, however, it becomes an unscrupulous, capricious enigma, capable even of heinous acts of deception and treachery.

Extraverted Sensing
ISFPs keep a finger on the pulse of here and now. They are more adept at doing than considering, at acting than reflecting, at tasting than wondering. As do most SPs, ISFPs keenly sense color, sound, texture, and movement. It is not unusual for ISFPs to excel in sensory, motor, or kinesthetic abilities.
ISFPs cherish their impulses. Some of the most beautiful, graceful, and artistic performances are the result of this drive for physical, sensate expression.

Introverted iNtuition
Tertiary intuition works best in the background of the ISFP's inner world. Perhaps this is the source of the "gut feeling" SPs consult in matters of chance. However "lucky" the ISFP may be, intuition as a means of communication is a poor servant, evidenced in spoonerisms, and non sequiturs and mixed metaphors.

Extraverted Thinking
The ISFP may employ Extraverted Thinking in external situations requiring closure. As is the case with inferior functions, such Thinking behaves in an all or nothing manner. Thus, as with other FP types, the ISFP's Extraverted Thinking is at risk for a lack of context and proportion. In most cases, persons of this type enjoy greater facility operating in the open-ended style of sensing, implying the opinions of feeling values in the indirect fashion characteristic of introverted functions.

Famous ISFPs:
Marie Antoinette
Auguste Rodin, sculptor
U.S. Presidents
Ulysses S. Grant
Millard Fillmore, "The American Louis Philippe"
Warren G. Harding
Fred Astaire, dancer
Marilyn Monroe, actor
Liberace, pianist
Elizabeth Taylor, actor
Yogi Berra, professional baseball player ("It's deja vu all over again.")
Dan Rather, news anchor
Orrin Hatch, U.S. Senator
Ervin "Magic" Johnson, NBA basketball star
Patrick Duffey, actor
Dan Quayle, U.S. Vice President, 1988-1992
Paul McCartney, Beatle
Michael Jackson, performer
Kevin Costner, actor
Greg Louganis, U.S. Olympic gold medalist--diving
Brooke Shields, actor
John Travolta, actor, dancer

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The Portrait of the Mastermind (iNTj)


Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition, it is the contingency planning or entailment organizing role that reaches the highest development in Masterminds. Entailing or contingency planning is not an informative activity, rather it is a directive one in which the planner tells others what to do and in what order to do it. As the organizing capabilities the Masterminds increase so does their inclination to take charge of whatever is going on.

It is in their abilities that Masterminds differ from the other Rationals, while in most of their attitudes they are just like the others. However there is one attitude that sets them apart from other Rationals: they tend to be much more self-confident than the rest, having, for obscure reasons, developed a very strong will. They are rather rare, comprising no more than, say, one percent of the population. Being very judicious, decisions come naturally to them; indeed, they can hardly rest until they have things settled, decided, and set. They are the people who are able to formulate coherent and comprehensive contingency plans, hence contingency organizers or "entailers."

Masterminds will adopt ideas only if they are useful, which is to say if they work efficiently toward accomplishing the Mastermind's well-defined goals. Natural leaders, Masterminds are not at all eager to take command of projects or groups, preferring to stay in the background until others demonstrate their inability to lead. Once in charge, however, Masterminds are the supreme pragmatists, seeing reality as a crucible for refining their strategies for goal-directed action. In a sense, Masterminds approach reality as they would a giant chess board, always seeking strategies that have a high payoff, and always devising contingency plans in case of error or adversity. To the Mastermind, organizational structure and operational procedures are never arbitrary, never set in concrete, but are quite malleable and can be changed, improved, streamlined. In their drive for efficient action, Masterminds are the most open-minded of all the types. No idea is too far-fetched to be entertained-if it is useful. Masterminds are natural brainstormers, always open to new concepts and, in fact, aggressively seeking them. They are also alert to the consequences of applying new ideas or positions. Theories which cannot be made to work are quickly discarded by the Masterminds. On the other hand, Masterminds can be quite ruthless in implementing effective ideas, seldom counting personal cost in terms of time and energy.

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The Counselor Idealists are abstract in thought and speech, cooperative in reaching their goals, and directive and introverted in their interpersonal roles. Counselors focus on human potentials, think in terms of ethical values, and come easily to decisions. The small number of this type (little more than 2 percent) is regrettable, since Counselors have an unusually strong desire to contribute to the welfare of others and genuinely enjoy helping their companions. Although Counsleors tend to be private, sensitive people, and are not generally visible leaders, they nevertheless work quite intensely with those close to them, quietly exerting their influence behind the scenes with their families, friends, and colleagues. This type has great depth of personality; they are themselves complicated, and can understand and deal with complex issues and people.

Counselors can be hard to get to know. They have an unusually rich inner life, but they are reserved and tend not to share their reactions except with those they trust. With their loved ones, certainly, Counselors are not reluctant to express their feelings, their face lighting up with the positive emotions, but darkening like a thunderhead with the negative. Indeed, because of their strong ability to take into themselves the feelings of others, Counselors can be hurt rather easily by those around them, which, perhaps, is one reason why they tend to be private people, mutely withdrawing from human contact. At the same time, friends who have known a Counselor for years may find sides emerging which come as a surprise. Not that they are inconsistent; Counselors value their integrity a great deal, but they have intricately woven, mysterious personalities which sometimes puzzle even them.

Counselors have strong empathic abilities and can become aware of another's emotions or intentions -- good or evil -- even before that person is conscious of them. This "mind-reading" can take the form of feeling the hidden distress or illnesses of others to an extent which is difficult for other types to comprehend. Even Counselors can seldom tell how they came to penetrate others' feelings so keenly. Furthermore, the Counselor is most likely of all the types to demonstrate an ability to understand psychic phenomena and to have visions of human events, past, present, or future. What is known as ESP may well be exceptional intuitive ability-in both its forms, projection and introjection. Such supernormal intuition is found frequently in the Counselor, and can extend to people, things, and often events, taking the form of visions, episodes of foreknowledge, premonitions, auditory and visual images of things to come, as well as uncanny communications with certain individuals at a distance.

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INTJs are perfectionists, with a seemingly endless capacity for improving upon anything that takes their interest. What prevents them from becoming chronically bogged down in this pursuit of perfection is the pragmatism so characteristic of the type: INTJs apply (often ruthlessly) the criterion "Does it work?" to everything from their own research efforts to the prevailing social norms. This in turn produces an unusual independence of mind, freeing the INTJ from the constraints of authority, convention, or sentiment for its own sake.

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Personal relationships, particularly romantic ones, can be the INTJ's Achilles heel. While they are capable of caring deeply for others (usually a select few), and are willing to spend a great deal of time and effort on a relationship, the knowledge and self-confidence that make them so successful in other areas can suddenly abandon or mislead them in interpersonal situations.

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I've taken this test before, and although I can't speak as to the percentages, I was indeed, an INTJ last time. How things change, how they stay the same.

Hobbes
 

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Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
INFJ, the "Counselor". Apparently only %2 of the population are INFJs. I am curious to see if someone else here is one.

An exerpt from the site:

Introverted iNtuiting Feeling Judging
by Marina Margaret Heiss

INFJs are distinguished by both their complexity of character and the unusual range and depth of their talents. Strongly humanitarian in outlook, INFJs tend to be idealists, and because of their J preference for closure and completion, they are generally "doers" as well as dreamers. This rare combination of vision and practicality often results in INFJs taking a disproportionate amount of responsibility in the various causes to which so many of them seem to be drawn.

INFJs are deeply concerned about their relations with individuals as well as the state of humanity at large. They are, in fact, sometimes mistaken for extroverts because they appear so outgoing and are so genuinely interested in people -- a product of the Feeling function they most readily show to the world. On the contrary, INFJs are true introverts, who can only be emotionally intimate and fulfilled with a chosen few from among their long-term friends, family, or obvious "soul mates." While instinctively courting the personal and organizational demands continually made upon them by others, at intervals INFJs will suddenly withdraw into themselves, sometimes shutting out even their intimates. This apparent paradox is a necessary escape valve for them, providing both time to rebuild their depleted resources and a filter to prevent the emotional overload to which they are so susceptible as inherent "givers." As a pattern of behavior, it is perhaps the most confusing aspect of the enigmatic INFJ character to outsiders, and hence the most often misunderstood -- particularly by those who have little experience with this rare type.

Due in part to the unique perspective produced by this alternation between detachment and involvement in the lives of the people around them, INFJs may well have the clearest insights of all the types into the motivations of others, for good and for evil. The most important contributing factor to this uncanny gift, however, are the empathic abilities often found in Fs, which seem to be especially heightened in the INFJ type (possibly by the dominance of the introverted N function).

This empathy can serve as a classic example of the two-edged nature of certain INFJ talents, as it can be strong enough to cause discomfort or pain in negative or stressful situations. More explicit inner conflicts are also not uncommon in INFJs; it is possible to speculate that the causes for some of these may lie in the specific combinations of preferences which define this complex type. For instance, there can sometimes be a "tug-of-war" between NF vision and idealism and the J practicality that urges compromise for the sake of achieving the highest priority goals. And the I and J combination, while perhaps enhancing self-awareness, may make it difficult for INFJs to articulate their deepest and most convoluted feelings.

Usually self-expression comes more easily to INFJs on paper, as they tend to have strong writing skills. Since in addition they often possess a strong personal charisma, INFJs are generally well-suited to the "inspirational" professions such as teaching (especially in higher education) and religious leadership. Psychology and counseling are other obvious choices, but overall, INFJs can be exceptionally difficult to pigeonhole by their career paths. Perhaps the best example of this occurs in the technical fields. Many INFJs perceive themselves at a disadvantage when dealing with the mystique and formality of "hard logic", and in academic terms this may cause a tendency to gravitate towards the liberal arts rather than the sciences. However, the significant minority of INFJs who do pursue studies and careers in the latter areas tend to be as successful as their T counterparts, as it is *iNtuition* -- the dominant function for the INFJ type -- which governs the ability to understand abstract theory and implement it creatively.

In their own way, INFJs are just as much "systems builders" as are INTJs; the difference lies in that most INFJ "systems" are founded on human beings and human values, rather than information and technology. Their systems may for these reasons be conceptually "blurrier" than analogous NT ones, harder to measure in strict numerical terms, and easier to take for granted -- yet it is these same underlying reasons which make the resulting contributions to society so vital and profound.
 

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Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
Hey there, Teshi! Another INFJ.
 

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Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
Woah, adam!
 

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Posted by amira tharani (Member # 182) on :
 
I am an INFJ: no surprises

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Personal relationships, particularly romantic ones, can be the INTJ's Achilles heel. While they are capable of caring deeply for others (usually a select few), and are willing to spend a great deal of time and effort on a relationship, the knowledge and self-confidence that make them so successful in other areas can suddenly abandon or mislead them in interpersonal situations.

This happens in part because many INTJs do not readily grasp the social rituals; for instance, they tend to have little patience and less understanding of such things as small talk and flirtation (which most types consider half the fun of a relationship). To complicate matters, INTJs are usually extremely private people, and can often be naturally impassive as well, which makes them easy to misread and misunderstand. Perhaps the most fundamental problem, however, is that INTJs really want people to make sense. :-) This sometimes results in a peculiar naivete', paralleling that of many Fs -- only instead of expecting inexhaustible affection and empathy from a romantic relationship, the INTJ will expect inexhaustible reasonability and directness.

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This is true, and I don't know how Annie puts up with me... I guess some INTJs just get lucky.

Hobbes
 

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Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
Porter and I took this test back when we were getting to know each other, and we were told that our personalities were absolutely and completely INCOMPATABLE. Heh heh.
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
RRR: I am also 100% introvert. It's rather sad, really.
 

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Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
Some famous INTJs:

Famous INTJs:

Susan B. Anthony, suffragist

Augustus Caesar (Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus), Emperor of Rome

William F. Buckley, Jr., conservative political advocate

C. S. Lewis, author (The Chronicles of Narnia)

Donald Rumsfeld, US Secretary of Defense
 

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Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
 
I wound up an ENTJ.

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"I don't care to sit by the window on an airplane. If I can't control it, why look?"
ENTJs have a natural tendency to marshall and direct. This may be expressed with the charm and finesse of a world leader or with the insensitivity of a cult leader. The ENTJ requires little encouragement to make a plan. One ENTJ put it this way... "I make these little plans that really don't have any importance to anyone else, and then feel compelled to carry them out." While "compelled" may not describe ENTJs as a group, nevertheless the bent to plan creatively and to make those plans realiity is a common theme for NJ types.

ENTJs are often "larger than life" in describing their projects or proposals. This ability may be expressed as salesmanship, story-telling facility or stand-up comedy. In combination with the natural propensity for filibuster, our hero can make it very difficult for the customer to decline.

TRADEMARK: -- "I'm really sorry you have to die." (I realize this is an overstatement. However, most Fs and other gentle souls usually chuckle knowingly at this description.)

ENTJs are decisive. They see what needs to be done, and frequently assign roles to their fellows. Few other types can equal their ability to remain resolute in conflict, sending the valiant (and often leading the charge) into the mouth of hell. When challenged, the ENTJ may by reflex become argumentative. Alternatively (s)he may unleash an icy gaze that serves notice: the ENTJ is not one to be trifled with.

Extraverted Thinking
"Unequivocating" expresses the resoluteness of the ENTJ's dominant function. Clarity of convictions endows these Thinkers with a knack for debate, or wanting knack, a penchant for argument. The light and heat generated by Thinking at the helm can be impressive; perhaps even overwhelming. Experience teaches many ENTJs that restraint may often be the better part of valor, lest one find oneself victorious but alone.

Introverted iNtuition
The auxiliary function explores the blueprints of archetypal patterns and equips Thinking with a fresh, dynamic sense of how things work. Improvising on the fly is something many ENTJs do very well. As Thinking's subordinate, insights are of value only insofar as they further the Right, True Cause celebre. [n.b.: ENTJs are capable of living on a higher plane, if you will, and learning to value individuals even above their principles. The above dynamic suggests less individuation.]

Extraverted Sensing
Sensing reaches out to embrace that which physically touches it. ENTJs have an awareness of the real; of that which exists. By stilling the engines of Thinking and iNtuition, this type may experience the Here and Now, and know things not dreamt of nor even postulated in iNtuition's philosophy. Sensing's minor role, however, puts it at risk for distortion or extreme weakness beneath the hustle and bustle of the giants N and T.

Introverted Feeling
Feeling is romantic, as the ethereal as the inner world from whence it doth emerge. When it be awake, feeling evokes great passion that knows not nuance of proportion nor context. Perhaps these lesser functions inspire glorious recreational quests in worlds that never were, or may only ever be in fantasy. When overdone or taken too seriously, Fi turned outward often becomes maudlin or melodramatic. Feeling in this type appears most authentic when implied or expressed covertly in a firm handshake, accepting demeanor, or act of sacrifice thinly covered by excuses of lack of any personal interest in the relinquished item.

Famous ENTJs:
U.S. Presidents:
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Richard M. Nixon
Alexander Hamilton, first US Secretary of the Treasury
Benny Goodman, "Big Band" leader
General Norman Schwarzkopf
Harrison Ford
Steve Martin
Whoopi Goldberg
Sigourney Weaver
Margaret Thatcher
Al Gore (U.S Vice President, 1993- )
Lamar Alexander (former governor, US Secretary of Education)
Les Aspen, former U.S. Secretary of Defense
Candace Bergen (Murphy Brown)
Dave Letterman
Newt Gingrich
Patrick Stewart (STNG: Jean Luc Picard)
Robert James Waller (author: The Bridges of Madison County)
Jim Carrey (Ace Ventura: Pet Detective, The Mask)

Fictional ENTJs: Geordi LaForge (STNG)

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INFPs live primarily in a rich inner world of introverted Feeling. Being inward-turning, the natural attraction is away from world and toward essence and ideal. This introversion of dominant Feeling, receiving its data from extraverted intuition, must be the source of the quixotic nature of these usually gentle beings. Feeling is caught in the approach- avoidance bind between concern both for people and for All Creatures Great and Small, and a psycho-magnetic repulsion from the same. The "object," be it homo sapiens or a mere representation of an organism, is valued only to the degree that the object contains some measure of the inner Essence or greater Good. Doing a good deed, for example, may provide intrinsic satisfaction which is only secondary to the greater good of striking a blow against Man's Inhumanity to Mankind.

Extraverted intuition faces outward, greeting the world on behalf of Feeling. What the observer usually sees is creativity with implied good will. Intuition spawns this type's philosophical bent and strengthens pattern perception. It combines as auxiliary with introverted Feeling and gives rise to unusual skill in both character development and fluency with language--a sound basis for the development of literary facility. If INTPs aspire to word mechanics, INFPs would be verbal artists.

Sensing is introverted and often invisible. This stealth function in the third position gives INFPs a natural inclination toward absent- mindedness and other-worldliness, however, Feeling's strong people awareness provides a balancing, mitigating effect. This introverted Sensing is somewhat categorical, a subdued version of SJ sensing. In the third position, however, it is easily overridden by the stronger functions.

The INFP may turn to inferior extraverted Thinking for help in focusing on externals and for closure. INFPs can even masquerade in their ESTJ business suit, but not without expending considerable energy. The inferior, problematic nature of Extraverted Thinking is its lack of context and proportion. Single impersonal facts may loom large or attain higher priority than more salient principles which are all but overlooked.

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But then again, I can also relate to some of the other descriptions that have been posted.



EDIT: I just saw beverly's post -- I realize that the whole point of these tests is to not read all the results and self-designate, but I think I'm more an INFJ than an INFP.

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Posted by xnera (Member # 187) on :
 
Not even going to bother taking the test. I'm a flaming INFP.

A quick skim of the INFP profile that Zalmoxis posted shows me it's the same one I just reread in recent weeks. I remember thinking at the time that it was a good, but not great, profile of an INFP. I've read better.

And yeah, we can masquerade as ESTJ. I did this for a speed dating party once. Everyone I talked to was shocked when I told them I was an introvert. And then I went home and immediately collapsed into bed because I was EXHAUSTED.
 

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Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
<--- Am also an INFP.

I like it. It rolls off the tongue.
 

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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 

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Yah, but we also share personality types with Proffesor Moriarty!

Hobbes
 

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INFP

very expressed introvert
moderately expressed intuitive personality
slightly expressed feeling personality
moderately expressed perceiving personality

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Healer Idealists are abstract in thought and speech, cooperative in striving for their ends, and informative and introverted in their interpersonal relations. Healer present a seemingly tranquil, and noticiably pleasant face to the world, and though to all appearances they might seem reserved, and even shy, on the inside they are anything but reserved, having a capacity for caring not always found in other types. They care deeply-indeed, passionately-about a few special persons or a favorite cause, and their fervent aim is to bring peace and integrity to their loved ones and the world.

Healers have a profound sense of idealism derived from a strong personal morality, and they conceive of the world as an ethical, honorable place. Indeed, to understand Healers, we must understand their idealism as almost boundless and selfless, inspiring them to make extraordinary sacrifices for someone or something they believe in. The Healer is the Prince or Princess of fairytale, the King's Champion or Defender of the Faith, like Sir Galahad or Joan of Arc. Healers are found in only 1 percent of the general population, although, at times, their idealism leaves them feeling even more isolated from the rest of humanity.

 Healers seek unity in their lives, unity of body and mind, emotions and intellect, perhaps because they are likely to have a sense of inner division threaded through their lives, which comes from their often unhappy childhood. Healers live a fantasy-filled childhood, which, unfortunately, is discouraged or even punished by many parents. In a practical-minded family, required by their parents to be sociable and industrious in concrete ways, and also given down-to-earth siblings who conform to these parental expectations, Healers come to see themselves as ugly ducklings. Other types usually shrug off parental expectations that do not fit them, but not the Healers. Wishing to please their parents and siblings, but not knowing quite how to do it, they try to hide their differences, believing they are bad to be so fanciful, so unlike their more solid brothers and sisters. They wonder, some of them for the rest of their lives, whether they are OK. They are quite OK, just different from the rest of their family-swans reared in a family of ducks. Even so, to realize and really believe this is not easy for them. Deeply committed to the positive and the good, yet taught to believe there is evil in them, Healers can come to develop a certain fascination with the problem of good and evil, sacred and profane. Healers are drawn toward purity, but can become engrossed with the profane, continuously on the lookout for the wickedness that lurks within them. Then, when Healers believe thay have yielded to an impure temptation, they may be given to acts of self-sacrifice in atonement. Others seldom detect this inner turmoil, however, for the struggle between good and evil is within the Healer, who does not feel compelled to make the issue public.

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Famous INFPs:

Homer
Virgil
Mary, mother of Jesus
St. John, the beloved disciple
St. Luke; physician, disciple, author
William Shakespeare, bard of Avon
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (Evangeline)
A. A. Milne (Winnie the Pooh)
Laura Ingalls Wilder (Little House on the Prairie)
Helen Keller, deaf and blind author
Carl Rogers, reflective psychologist, counselor
Fred Rogers (Mister Rogers' Neighborhood)
Dick Clark (American Bandstand)
Donna Reed, actor (It's a Wonderful Life)
Jacqueline Kennedy Onasis
Neil Diamond, vocalist
Tom Brokaw, news anchor
James Herriot (All Creatures Great and Small)
Annie Dillard (Pilgrim at Tinker Creek)
James Taylor, vocalist
Julia Roberts, actor (Conspiracy Theory, Pretty Woman) Scott Bakula (Quantum Leap)
Terri Gross (PBS's "Fresh Air")
Amy Tan (author of The Joy-Luck Club, The Kitchen God's Wife)
John F. Kennedy, Jr.
Lisa Kudrow ("Phoebe" of Friends)
Fred Savage ("The Wonder Years")

Fictional INFPs:
Anne (Anne of Green Gables))
Calvin (Calvin and Hobbes)
Deanna Troi (Star Trek - The Next Generation)
Wesley Crusher (Star Trek - The Next Generation)
Doctor Julian Bashir (Star Trek: Deep Space 9)
Bastian (The Neverending Story)
E.T.: the ExtraTerrestrial
Doug Funny, Doug cartoons
Tommy, Rug Rats cartoons
Rocko, Rocko's Modern Life cartoons

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Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
bev, I consider myself an INFJ.



-Bok
 

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Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
Bok: Kewl--apparently ain't many of us out there. Sometimes I feel like I know myself better than a personality test does. Quite often rather than taking the test, I will read the descriptions and will know which one best describes me.
 

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Posted by Happy Camper (Member # 5076) on :
 
Wow, lots of us INFPs around. The first time I took this test I was INFP, then I switched to ESTP I think, but I soon went back to my introverted ways.

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Your Type is
INFP
Introverted Intuitive Feeling Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
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You are:
moderately expressed introvert

moderately expressed intuitive personality

distinctively expressed feeling personality

moderately expressed perceiving personality

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Yah, but we also share personality types with Proffesor Moriarty!

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Your Type is
INTJ
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
56-----------44---------89--------22

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Same as always.
 

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Posted by Stray (Member # 4056) on :
 
Yet another INTJ here...kinda funny there's so many of us here, the profile says we're only about 1% of the population. Seem to be quite a few INFPs also...wonder what it is about Hatrack that attracts disproportionate numbers of these types?
 

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Posted by Mike (Member # 55) on :
 
INTP.

78% 44% 11% 11%

Which is not particularly surprising (but hey, looks like I'm the exact opposite of Suneun ). But this test was so frustrating to take -- for half of the questions an honest answer would put me somewhere between a "Yes" and a "No". So I'm not quite a 78% introvert. Probably closer to 40%. I used to be 100%, easily.

It's interesting to see where I'm drifting on this scale. I know I used to be more T than I am now. Probably more P also. I'm not sure I understand the iNtuition/Sensing scale, though.
 

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Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
 
I scored an ENTP. Although, that's only 1% E which is just about as on the cusp as you can get.
 

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Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
 

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INFJ, the "Counselor". Apparently only %2 of the population are INFJs. I am curious to see if someone else here is one.

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Apparently all of them post here... I am one too.
 

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Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
Well, I closed out my page on INFJ but luckily Bev posted the info above. It was interesting to see that they often act like extroverts, which explains alot. I can see how an INFJ would sort of "accidently" marry another introvert (that's what I did) when it's usually an I+E combo in marriages.
 

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Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Ah, I've found what I was loking for. The "J" in my INFJ is 1% so I was looking for the INFP. Consider me almost an INFP.
 

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Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
 
ENFP's Untie!

Okay, so we're a little flighty, our desks are a mess, and we really, really hate deadlines and being forced into routines.

But we're fun.
 

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Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
I didn't try the one you linked to above, but every time I have taken this type of test, I'm always strongly ESTJ. Never changes, and I'm kind of overwhelming that profile.

Farmgirl
 

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Posted by Phanto (Member # 5897) on :
 
I got bored after the first question only had two options -- yes or no, no sometimes...
 

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Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
here's my percentages forgot to put them in before.
ENTP
Extroverted Intuitive Thinking Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
11 56 11 11
Last time the Perceiving was down to 6% and I think the T was higher but oh well.

Really all of my preferences other than the Intuitive are pretty weak. Guess I'm just bland.

AJ
(And considering this is an online forum it doesn't actually surprise me how many introverts we have.)
AJ

[ September 21, 2004, 04:27 PM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
 

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Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
Okay I took it.

Yep, it held true on this one too...

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Your Type is
ESTJ
Extroverted  Sensing	Thinking	Judging

56	      11	  33	         33

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ESTJ - Supervisor Guardians are squarely on the side of rules and procedures, and they can be quite serious about seeing to it that others toe the mark—or else face the consequences. They do not hesitate to give their stamp of approval, nor do they withhold their directions or suggestions for improvement. Like seasoned, stalwart umpires, Supervisors will set their jaw and make the call on anyone who steps up to bat. They even feel obligated to do so, and they’re sometimes surprised when others don’t seem grateful for being set straight.

Supervisors are gregarious and civic-minded, and are usually key players of their community. They are generous with their time and energy, and very often belong to a variety of groups, supporting them through steady attendance, but also taking a vocal leadership role. Indeed, membership groups of all kinds attract Supervisors like magnets, perhaps because membership satisfies in some degree their need to maintain the stability of social institutions. Like all the Guardians, Supervisors worry a good deal about society falling apart, morality decaying, standards being undermined, traditions being lost, and they do all they can to preserve and to extend the institutions that embody social order. Supervisors are so in tune with the established institutions and ways of behaving within those institutions, that they have a hard time understanding those who might wish to abandon or radically change them.

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As an ENFP, your primary mode of living is focused externally, where you take things in primarily via your intuition. Your secondary mode is internal, where you deal with things according to how you feel about them, or how they fit in with your personal value system.

ENFPs are warm, enthusiastic people, typically very bright and full of potential. They live in the world of possibilities, and can become very passionate and excited about things. Their enthusiasm lends them the ability to inspire and motivate others, more so than we see in other types. They can talk their way in or out of anything. They love life, seeing it as a special gift, and strive to make the most out of it.

ENFPs have an unusually broad range of skills and talents. They are good at most things which interest them. Project-oriented, they may go through several different careers during their lifetime. To onlookers, the ENFP may seem directionless and without purpose, but ENFPs are actually quite consistent, in that they have a strong sense of values which they live with throughout their lives. Everything that they do must be in line with their values. An ENFP needs to feel that they are living their lives as their true Self, walking in step with what they believe is right. They see meaning in everything, and are on a continuous quest to adapt their lives and values to achieve inner peace. They're constantly aware and somewhat fearful of losing touch with themselves. Since emotional excitement is usually an important part of the ENFP's life, and because they are focused on keeping "centered", the ENFP is usually an intense individual, with highly evolved values.

An ENFP needs to focus on following through with their projects. This can be a problem area for some of these individuals. Unlike other Extraverted types, ENFPs need time alone to center themselves, and make sure they are moving in a direction which is in sync with their values. ENFPs who remain centered will usually be quite successful at their endeavors. Others may fall into the habit of dropping a project when they become excited about a new possibility, and thus they never achieve the great accomplishments which they are capable of achieving.

Most ENFPs have great people skills. They are genuinely warm and interested in people, and place great importance on their inter-personal relationships. ENFPs almost always have a strong need to be liked. Sometimes, especially at a younger age, an ENFP will tend to be "gushy" and insincere, and generally "overdo" in an effort to win acceptance. However, once an ENFP has learned to balance their need to be true to themselves with their need for acceptance, they excel at bringing out the best in others, and are typically well-liked. They have an exceptional ability to intuitively understand a person after a very short period of time, and use their intuition and flexibility to relate to others on their own level.

Because ENFPs live in the world of exciting possibilities, the details of everyday life are seen as trivial drudgery. They place no importance on detailed, maintenance-type tasks, and will frequently remain oblivous to these types of concerns. When they do have to perform these tasks, they do not enjoy themselves. This is a challenging area of life for most ENFPs, and can be frustrating for ENFP's family members.

An ENFP who has "gone wrong" may be quite manipulative - and very good it. The gift of gab which they are blessed with makes it naturally easy for them to get what they want. Most ENFPs will not abuse their abilities, because that would not jive with their value systems.

ENFPs sometimes make serious errors in judgment. They have an amazing ability to intuitively perceive the truth about a person or situation, but when they apply judgment to their perception, they may jump to the wrong conclusions.

ENFPs who have not learned to follow through may have a difficult time remaining happy in marital relationships. Always seeing the possibilities of what could be, they may become bored with what actually is. The strong sense of values will keep many ENFPs dedicated to their relationships. However, ENFPs like a little excitement in their lives, and are best matched with individuals who are comfortable with change and new experiences.

Having an ENFP parent can be a fun-filled experience, but may be stressful at times for children with strong Sensing or Judging tendancies. Such children may see the ENFP parent as inconsistent and difficult to understand, as the children are pulled along in the whirlwind life of the ENFP. Sometimes the ENFP will want to be their child's best friend, and at other times they will play the parental authoritarian. But ENFPs are always consistent in their value systems, which they will impress on their children above all else, along with a basic joy of living.

ENFPs are basically happy people. They may become unhappy when they are confined to strict schedules or mundane tasks. Consequently, ENFPs work best in situations where they have a lot of flexibility, and where they can work with people and ideas. Many go into business for themselves. They have the ability to be quite productive with little supervision, as long as they are excited about what they're doing.

Because they are so alert and sensitive, constantly scanning their environments, ENFPs often suffer from muscle tension. They have a strong need to be independent, and resist being controlled or labelled. They need to maintain control over themselves, but they do not believe in controlling others. Their dislike of dependence and suppression extends to others as well as to themselves.

ENFPs are charming, ingenuous, risk-taking, sensitive, people-oriented individuals with capabilities ranging across a broad spectrum. They have many gifts which they will use to fulfill themselves and those near them, if they are able to remain centered and master the ability of following through

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Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 


Okay Tom -- see? I come by it naturally!

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Famous ESTJs:
Simon Peter (Christ's disciple)

U.S. Presidents:

* James Monroe
* Andrew Jackson
* William Henry "Tippecanoe" Harrison
* Franklin Pierce
* Grover Cleveland
* Harry S. Truman
* Lyndon B. Johnson
* George W. Bush

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Your Type is
INFJ
Introverted Intuitive Feeling Judging
Strength of the preferences %
    44	       89	11	44

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Your Type is
INFJ
Introverted Intuitive Feeling Judging
Strength of the preferences %
67 33 11 44

Qualitative analysis of your type formula

You are:
distinctively expressed introvert

moderately expressed intuitive personality

slightly expressed feeling personality

moderately expressed judging personality

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A lot of the questions were hard to answer, I would have liked a middle option.
 

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Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
I keep reading that certain percentages of the population are each of these, but I have to wonder if it's based on the people who take the test voluntarily. Surely certain people are more likely to take the test in the first place.
 

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Posted by Maccabeus (Member # 3051) on :
 
This time I came out an INTJ, with the percentage for N unusually high for me (89%) and the percentage for T unusually low (50%). J, as usual, came out at 1%, and I at 89%. I think the variation on T has to do with my recent willingness to try new things and the presence of a question about my notoriously bad temper.
 

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Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
I think red heads have a disadvantage.
 

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Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
 
The actual Myers-Briggs test is a bit more involved, and can only be given by a certified examiner.

I've taken it several times (my mom is in the process of becoming one of those examiners and gives seminars about this, working right now under a psychologist who has the certification) and so has everyone in our family.

I don't trust the online versions since they are not the entire test.

I will say that when we did it at a church retreat, the percentages held. We were only skewed in one area - and that was ENFP's. We had a higher number than what is generally considered a norm, but several of our ENFP's were on the ministerial staff, and I think it makes sense that ENFP's might be a little over-represented in the ministry.

Some employers now give the test before they hire, in order to make sure the person has the right personality fit for the job.
 

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Posted by Christy (Member # 4397) on :
 
Your Type is
ISFJ
Introverted Sensing Feeling Judging
Strength of the preferences %
22 --- 11 --- 67 --- 89

Hrm. I've flip-flopped on the sensing/intuitive and I'm less introverted than a few years ago. Must be Tom's influence. (Or the three months of introvertness I've had. *laugh*)

[ September 21, 2004, 05:58 PM: Message edited by: Christy ]
 

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Posted by Xaposert (Member # 1612) on :
 

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Your Type is
ISFJ
Introverted Sensing Feeling Judging
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You are:
slightly expressed introvert
distinctively expressed sensing personality
slightly expressed feeling personality
slightly expressed judging personality

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ISFJs are often unappreciated, at work, home, and play. Ironically, because they prove over and over that they can be relied on for their loyalty and unstinting, high-quality work, those around them often take them for granted--even take advantage of them. Admittedly, the problem is sometimes aggravated by the ISFJs themselves; for instance, they are notoriously bad at delegating ("If you want it done right, do it yourself"). And although they're hurt by being treated like doormats, they are often unwilling to toot their own horns about their accomplishments because they feel that although they deserve more credit than they're getting, it's somehow wrong to want any sort of reward for doing work (which is supposed to be a virtue in itself). (And as low-profile Is, their actions don't call attention to themselves as with charismatic Es.) Because of all of this, ISFJs are often overworked, and as a result may suffer from psychosomatic illnesses.

In the workplace, ISFJs are methodical and accurate workers, often with very good memories and unexpected analytic abilities; they are also good with people in small-group or one-on-one situations because of their patient and genuinely sympathetic approach to dealing with others. ISFJs make pleasant and reliable co-workers and exemplary employees, but tend to be harried and uncomfortable in supervisory roles. They are capable of forming strong loyalties, but these are personal rather than institutional loyalties; if someone they've bonded with in this way leaves the company, the ISFJ will leave with them, if given the option.

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Believing in the fantastic, and disbelieving the technologically extant, are errors that my guide the gullible (or unfoundedly sceptical) ISFJ off a precipice of mis-conclusion.

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Famous INFJs:

Nathan, prophet of Israel
Chaucer

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Well I'd say I'm in good company... let's hope I don't follow in Chaucer's footsteps and die before my Masterwork is completed, though...
 

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Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
I'll say you're in good company. : )
 

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Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
ENFP

I have also tried it before and come up with this.
 

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Posted by peterh (Member # 5208) on :
 
The few. The proud. The ENTJs.

Add me to the list
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
I'm an INTJ, heh, they put me in the masterminds... cool I like Sir Isaac Newton and Sir Stephen Hawking. I scored a %100 on being intoverted, but I also am a guardian... how fun.
 

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Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
ENFJ

Of note, my score in favor of J over P was exactly 1. That is, I'm both a Judger and a Perceiver.

I was strongly Intuitive, as I always am, the other two being moderate tendencies.
 

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Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Egad. Russell and I are not only ENFJ, but we're exactly as J as each other.
 

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Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
I also have a J over P score of exactly 1 every time I take this test (and the full length one).

But otherwise I'm an INT. Very high on all of those.
 

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Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Your Type is
INTJ

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The Portrait of the Mastermind (iNTj)

Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition, it is the contingency planning or entailment organizing role that reaches the highest development in Masterminds. Entailing or contingency planning is not an informative activity, rather it is a directive one in which the planner tells others what to do and in what order to do it. As the organizing capabilities the Masterminds increase so does their inclination to take charge of whatever is going on.

It is in their abilities that Masterminds differ from the other Rationals, while in most of their attitudes they are just like the others. However there is one attitude that sets them apart from other Rationals: they tend to be much more self-confident than the rest, having, for obscure reasons, developed a very strong will. They are rather rare, comprising no more than, say, one percent of the population. Being very judicious, decisions come naturally to them; indeed, they can hardly rest until they have things settled, decided, and set. They are the people who are able to formulate coherent and comprehensive contingency plans, hence contingency organizers or "entailers."

Masterminds will adopt ideas only if they are useful, which is to say if they work efficiently toward accomplishing the Mastermind's well-defined goals. Natural leaders, Masterminds are not at all eager to take command of projects or groups, preferring to stay in the background until others demonstrate their inability to lead. Once in charge, however, Masterminds are the supreme pragmatists, seeing reality as a crucible for refining their strategies for goal-directed action. In a sense, Masterminds approach reality as they would a giant chess board, always seeking strategies that have a high payoff, and always devising contingency plans in case of error or adversity. To the Mastermind, organizational structure and operational procedures are never arbitrary, never set in concrete, but are quite malleable and can be changed, improved, streamlined. In their drive for efficient action, Masterminds are the most open-minded of all the types. No idea is too far-fetched to be entertained-if it is useful. Masterminds are natural brainstormers, always open to new concepts and, in fact, aggressively seeking them. They are also alert to the consequences of applying new ideas or positions. Theories which cannot be made to work are quickly discarded by the Masterminds. On the other hand, Masterminds can be quite ruthless in implementing effective ideas, seldom counting personal cost in terms of time and energy.

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To outsiders, INTJs may appear to project an aura of "definiteness", of self-confidence. This self-confidence, sometimes mistaken for simple arrogance by the less decisive, is actually of a very specific rather than a general nature; its source lies in the specialized knowledge systems that most INTJs start building at an early age. When it comes to their own areas of expertise -- and INTJs can have several -- they will be able to tell you almost immediately whether or not they can help you, and if so, how. INTJs know what they know, and perhaps still more importantly, they know what they don't know.

INTJs are perfectionists, with a seemingly endless capacity for improving upon anything that takes their interest. What prevents them from becoming chronically bogged down in this pursuit of perfection is the pragmatism so characteristic of the type: INTJs apply (often ruthlessly) the criterion "Does it work?" to everything from their own research efforts to the prevailing social norms. This in turn produces an unusual independence of mind, freeing the INTJ from the constraints of authority, convention, or sentiment for its own sake.

INTJs are known as the "Systems Builders" of the types, perhaps in part because they possess the unusual trait combination of imagination and reliability. Whatever system an INTJ happens to be working on is for them the equivalent of a moral cause to an INFJ; both perfectionism and disregard for authority may come into play, as INTJs can be unsparing of both themselves and the others on the project. Anyone considered to be "slacking," including superiors, will lose their respect -- and will generally be made aware of this; INTJs have also been known to take it upon themselves to implement critical decisions without consulting their supervisors or co-workers. On the other hand, they do tend to be scrupulous and even-handed about recognizing the individual contributions that have gone into a project, and have a gift for seizing opportunities which others might not even notice.

In the broadest terms, what INTJs "do" tends to be what they "know". Typical INTJ career choices are in the sciences and engineering, but they can be found wherever a combination of intellect and incisiveness are required (e.g., law, some areas of academia). INTJs can rise to management positions when they are willing to invest time in marketing their abilities as well as enhancing them, and (whether for the sake of ambition or the desire for privacy) many also find it useful to learn to simulate some degree of surface conformism in order to mask their inherent unconventionality.

Personal relationships, particularly romantic ones, can be the INTJ's Achilles heel. While they are capable of caring deeply for others (usually a select few), and are willing to spend a great deal of time and effort on a relationship, the knowledge and self-confidence that make them so successful in other areas can suddenly abandon or mislead them in interpersonal situations.

This happens in part because many INTJs do not readily grasp the social rituals; for instance, they tend to have little patience and less understanding of such things as small talk and flirtation (which most types consider half the fun of a relationship). To complicate matters, INTJs are usually extremely private people, and can often be naturally impassive as well, which makes them easy to misread and misunderstand. Perhaps the most fundamental problem, however, is that INTJs really want people to make sense. :-) This sometimes results in a peculiar naivete', paralleling that of many Fs -- only instead of expecting inexhaustible affection and empathy from a romantic relationship, the INTJ will expect inexhaustible reasonability and directness.

Probably the strongest INTJ assets in the interpersonal area are their intuitive abilities and their willingness to "work at" a relationship. Although as Ts they do not always have the kind of natural empathy that many Fs do, the Intuitive function can often act as a good substitute by synthesizing the probable meanings behind such things as tone of voice, turn of phrase, and facial expression. This ability can then be honed and directed by consistent, repeated efforts to understand and support those they care about, and those relationships which ultimately do become established with an INTJ tend to be characterized by their robustness, stability, and good communications.

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slightly expressed sensing personality

slightly expressed thinking personality

distinctively expressed perceiving personality

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Like their fellow SPs, ISTPs are fundamentally Performers (note the capital 'P' :-)), but as Ts their areas of interest tend to be mechanical rather than artistic like those of ISFPs, and unlike most ESPs they do not present an impression of constant activity. On the contrary, they lie dormant, saving their energy until a project or an adventure worthy of their time comes along--and then they launch themselves at it. The apparently frenzied state that inevitably ensues is actually much more controlled than it appears--ISTPs always seem to know what they're doing when it comes to physical or mechanical obstacles--but the whole chain of events presents a confusing and paradoxical picture to an outsider.
ISTPs are equally difficult to understand in their need for personal space, which in turn has an impact on their relationships with others. They need to be able to "spread out"--both physically and psychologically--which generally implies encroaching to some degree on others, especially if they decide that something of someone else's is going to become their next project. (They are generally quite comfortable, however, with being treated the same way they treat others--at least in this respect.) But because they need such a lot of flexibility to be as spontaneous as they feel they must be, they tend to become as inflexible as the most rigid J when someone seems to be threatening their lifestyle (although they usually respond with a classic SP rage which is yet another vivid contrast to their "dormant," impassive, detached mode). These territorial considerations are usually critical in relationships with ISTPs; communication also tends to be a key issue, since they generally express themselves non-verbally. When they do actually verbalize, ISTPs are masters of the one-liner, often showing flashes of humor in the most tense situations; this can result in their being seen as thick-skinned or tasteless.

Like most SPs, ISTPs may have trouble with rote and abstract classroom learning, which tend not to be good measures of their actual intelligence. They tend, sometimes with good reason, to be highly skeptical of its practical value, and often gravitate towards classes in industrial arts; part-time vocational/ technical programs can be useful to even the college-bound ISTP. In terms of careers, mechanics and any of the skilled trades are traditional choices, and those ISTPs with strong numerical as well mechanical gifts tend to do extremely well in most areas of engineering. Working as paramedics or firefighters can fulfill the ISTP need to live on the edge; they are at their best in a crisis, where their natural disregard for rules and authority structures allows them to focus on and tackle the emergency at hand in the most effective way.

ISTPs with more sedate careers usually take on high-risk avocations like racing, skydiving, and motorcycling. While aware of the dangers involved, they are so in touch with the physical world that they know they can get away with much smaller safety margins than other types.

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Introverted Thinking
Thinking, the dominant function, generally keeps its opinions to itself. The inner world of introverted thinkers resembles Plato's rec room, where every untried idea runs the gauntlet of Truth. The personal or political source of the alleged fact matters little to Thinking; each tenet must stand on its own premises. Introverted thinkers focus their directives in on themselves, and would like nothing better than for others to do the same. One ISTP friend displays a poster of an orangutan with the caption, "If I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you." Suffice it to say that ISTPs are by nature free spirits.

Extraverted Sensing
Auxiliary Sensing provides Thinking with all manner of information about the physical world. ISTPs possess heightened sensory awareness. And as other SPs, ISTPs are energized by responding to their impulses. Sports appeal to many ISTPs for the sheer sensory experience.
This combination of dominant introverted thinking and auxiliary extraverted sensing results in no-nonsense realism. The uncanny troubleshooting ability which predisposes many ISTPs to hands-on diagnostics (especially with machinery and computers) or detective work is most probably rooted in this pairing.

Introverted iNtuition
Tertiary iNtuition maintains a low profile. ISTPs are prone to consult "gut feelings" that most probably arise from this function unconsciously. As with other SP types, ISTPs generally lack enthusiasm for theoretical and philosophical issues, and less for the endless discussions in which the Intuitive (especially NP) types so frequently engage.

Extraverted Feeling
The inferior (least) feeling function is extraverted and, when operative, quite visible. As with all types, the inferior function is relatively simplistic and often operates unconsciously in an all-or-nothing manner. When operative, Feeling's sensitivity and loyalty has the potential for great benefit and utter peril. It would seem that ISTPs would do well to nourish and cherish Feeling judgement, but to vigilantly supervise and protect it from predators and other catastrophes.

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Sounds like me. Looks like I'm the first one too.

[ September 21, 2004, 10:34 PM: Message edited by: Misha McBride ]
 

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Posted by Phanto (Member # 5897) on :
 
For instance:

Am I comfortable in crowds?

a: Depends. In the right circumstance, I will feed off a crowd's energy, fueling myself. In others, more often, I feel disconnected. All depends really, on whose in the crowd.
 

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Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
I've always been an ENTP.

When I was younger and in the house of two very strong J parents, I was more ENTX. Now that I'm an adult, the P is a vastly more dominant part of my personality.
 

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
The personality types in relationships
 

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Posted by Jess N (Member # 6744) on :
 
Results: INFJ

Says I'm a "Counselor" and that I'm sometimes hard to get to know. I'd say that's on the mark.
 

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Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
THis website lists the frequency percentages and says most of the world are actually S rather than N. No wonder they don't make sense to me <Grin>

http://209.15.29.56/myersbriggs/personhome.htm

AJ
 

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Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
Man, everytime I read stuff on ENTP's I get this weird uncomfortable/relieved feeling. It's uncomfortable to realize I'm so much like so many other people, a test could theorize on a "type" and describe me spot-on, while it's nice to read the undeniable weakneses of the ENTP and think, "Thank JEBUS, I'm not the only one."

[ September 21, 2004, 11:57 PM: Message edited by: Ralphie ]
 

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Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
 
I'm an ENFP - the exact inverse of Hobbes.

(edit) I took it again and got a little more solidly in the ENFP range, so it lookds like you're not alone, Belle.

I found the following especially pertinent:

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ENFPs are both "idea"-people and "people"-people, who see everyone and everything as part of an often bizarre cosmic whole. They want to both help (at least, their own definition of "help") and be liked and admired by other people, on bo th an individual and a humanitarian level. They are interested in new ideas on principle, but ultimately discard most of them for one reason or another.

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ENFPs have a great deal of zany charm, which can ingratiate them to the more stodgy types in spite of their unconventionality. They are outgoing, fun, and genuinely like people. As SOs/mates they are warm, affectionate, and disconcertingly spontaneous.

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ENFPs often have strong, if unconvential, convictions on various issues related to their Cosmic View. They usually try to use their social skills and contacts to persuade people gently of the rightness of these views; his sometimes results in their negle cting their nearest and dearest while flitting around trying to save the world.

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They come up with great ideas, and are a major asset in brainstorming sessions. Followthrough tends to be a problem, however; they tend to get bored quickly, especially if a newer, more interesting project comes along. They also tend to be procrastinators, both about meeting hard deadlines and about performing any small, uninteresting tasks that they've been assigned. ENFPs are at their most useful when working in a group w ith a J or two to take up the slack.

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ENFPs hate bureaucracy, both in principle and in practice; they will always make a point of launching one of their crusades against some aspect of it.

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ENFPs have what some call a "silly switch." They can be intellectual, serious, all business for a while, but whenever they get the chance, they flip that switch and become CAPTAIN WILDCHILD, the scourge of the swimming pool, ticklers par excellence. Som etimes they may even appear intoxicated when the "switch" is flipped.

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[ September 22, 2004, 12:27 AM: Message edited by: Annie ]
 

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Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
How can you explain a shift from INFJ to INFP?
 

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Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
<-- ISFP
 

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Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
 
INFJ
Introverted Intuitive Feeling Judging

I am not sure how accurate that is, as I got kind of bored with the test questions partway through, but this statement really rang true for me:

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INFJs are deeply concerned about their relations with individuals as well as the state of humanity at large. They are, in fact, sometimes mistaken for extroverts because they appear so outgoing and are so genuinely interested in people -- a product of the Feeling function they most readily show to the world.

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I always used to say I was an introvert, and I thought I was, but it seemed inconsistant, since I relate well with people and easily get in conversations. So this statement explained myself to me.
 

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Posted by FoolishTook (Member # 5358) on :
 

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INFJ
Introverted Intuitive Feeling Judging
Strength of the preferences %
67 11 22 67

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distinctively expressed introvert

slightly expressed intuitive personality

slightly expressed feeling personality

distinctively expressed judging personality

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• Teshi (Canadian with supremely sexy British accent available on command. Teeters with becoming INFP -- risky investment. Relationship status unknown. More data required)
• beverly (Taken. And Porter can turn you into a human pretzel. Approach with caution)
• Bok (Limited time offer. Act now while supplies last. Sadly, can never have children. On account of being male. But hey, nobody's perfect.)
• amira tharani (Also comes equipped with wicked accent. Sadly, Taken. But, but, but, English accent! And Oxford! *le sigh*)
• PSI Teleport (Taken. Easily distracted by carpet fuzz. Approach strategy: Grow long hair and 4-5 days stubble. Wear boxer briefs (there's nothing wrong with being optimistic))
• Dragon (Relationship status unknown. Where's the matchmaker thread when you need it? Recently awakened. Potential problem with cradle robbing. Approach strategy: Bring juggling clubs and exchange tricks. Can also be used for bludgeoning if not, in fact, single)
• skillery (Taken. But, as I am not a woman, will talk to me on phone. Slight problem with unwanted manness. Make note in case you wake up gay.)
• MEC (There are already enough men on this list. Even the name means man. You already have enough of a contingency plan. *to be removed*)
• Taalcon (Would likely write amusing summaries of all dates and post on Hatrack for enjoyment of community. Is this a good thing? And then there's that man thing he's got going.)
• Jess N (Shiny and new to the world of Hatrack and therefore exciting. Approach Strategy: Bring Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon and be prepared to discuss Ruth Thompson and Gethsemene. Are there Coles Notes for painters?)
• Ela (Taken. Comes with nurse uniform and the wisdom of experience. Unlikely to date someone the same age as her children (who are likely so spooked by the thought that any hope of romantic magic has been quashed)).
• FoolishTook (Self proclaimed thread killer. New and mysterious. And, well, male. But the heart, she follows no rules)

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The Counselor Idealists are abstract in thought and speech, cooperative in reaching their goals, and directive and introverted in their interpersonal roles. Counselors focus on human potentials, think in terms of ethical values, and come easily to decisions. The small number of this type (little more than 2 percent) is regrettable, since Counselors have an unusually strong desire to contribute to the welfare of others and genuinely enjoy helping their companions. Although Counsleors tend to be private, sensitive people, and are not generally visible leaders, they nevertheless work quite intensely with those close to them, quietly exerting their influence behind the scenes with their families, friends, and colleagues. This type has great depth of personality; they are themselves complicated, and can understand and deal with complex issues and people.

Counselors can be hard to get to know. They have an unusually rich inner life, but they are reserved and tend not to share their reactions except with those they trust. With their loved ones, certainly, Counselors are not reluctant to express their feelings, their face lighting up with the positive emotions, but darkening like a thunderhead with the negative. Indeed, because of their strong ability to take into themselves the feelings of others, Counselors can be hurt rather easily by those around them, which, perhaps, is one reason why they tend to be private people, mutely withdrawing from human contact. At the same time, friends who have known a Counselor for years may find sides emerging which come as a surprise. Not that they are inconsistent; Counselors value their integrity a great deal, but they have intricately woven, mysterious personalities which sometimes puzzle even them.

Counselors have strong empathic abilities and can become aware of another's emotions or intentions -- good or evil -- even before that person is conscious of them. This "mind-reading" can take the form of feeling the hidden distress or illnesses of others to an extent which is difficult for other types to comprehend. Even Counselors can seldom tell how they came to penetrate others' feelings so keenly. Furthermore, the Counselor is most likely of all the types to demonstrate an ability to understand psychic phenomena and to have visions of human events, past, present, or future. What is known as ESP may well be exceptional intuitive ability-in both its forms, projection and introjection. Such supernormal intuition is found frequently in the Counselor, and can extend to people, things, and often events, taking the form of visions, episodes of foreknowledge, premonitions, auditory and visual images of things to come, as well as uncanny communications with certain individuals at a distance.

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skillery (Taken. But, as I am not a woman, will talk to me on phone.

Taalcon (Would likely write amusing summaries of all dates and post on Hatrack for enjoyment of community. Is this a good thing?

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[ September 22, 2004, 12:15 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
 

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Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
There ya go...you can add littlemiss to your list.

Whiskers and boxer briefs, hmm? But no, I couldn't possibly. I don't think I could spend the rest of my life making "dinner" out of those microbiotic things you eat with no faces. If it doesn't have a face, how do you know which way to point your plate? And how can you be sure that you...ummmm...

...is that carpet fuzz?

[ September 22, 2004, 09:24 AM: Message edited by: PSI Teleport ]
 

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Posted by Sara Sasse (Member # 6804) on :
 
INTJ, 33/44/1/33

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Perhaps the most fundamental problem, however, is that INTJs really want people to make sense. :-) This sometimes results in a peculiar naivete', paralleling that of many Fs -- only instead of expecting inexhaustible affection and empathy from a romantic relationship, the INTJ will expect inexhaustible reasonability and directness.

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
It looks like most of the people who posted fall into either the 1% or 2% of the population.

No wonder we like each other. It's true - the rest of the world is bizarre.
 

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Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
I'm like that too, Sara, but I'm an F. Of course, I'm only a little bit F.

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Kat: There is a rather high representation of Introverts and Intuitives on this board. Of course, that just makes sense.

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Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
I notice that no one has yet posted the ENFJ profile yet, perhaps because only Fugu and I are ENFJ and neither of us are the type of person to post such a profile under normal circumstances. Here it is:

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The Idealists called Teachers are abstract in their thought and speech, cooperative in their style of achieving goals, and directive and extraverted in their interpersonal relations. Learning in the young has to be beckoned forth, teased out from its hiding place, or, as suggested by the word "education," it has to be "educed." by an individual with educative capabilities. Such a one is the eNFj, thus rightly called the educative mentor or Teacher for short. The Teacher is especially capable of educing or calling forth those inner potentials each learner possesses. Even as children the Teachers may attract a gathering of other children ready to follow their lead in play or work. And they lead without seeming to do so.

Teachers expect the very best of those around them, and this expectation, usually expressed as enthusiastic encouragement, motivates action in others and the desire to live up to their expectations. Teachers have the charming characteristic of taking for granted that their expectations will be met, their implicit commands obeyed, never doubting that people will want to do what they suggest. And, more often than not, people do, because this type has extraordinary charisma.

The Teachers are found in no more than 2 or 3 percent of the population. They like to have things settled and arranged. They prefer to plan both work and social engagements ahead of time and tend to be absolutely reliable in honoring these commitments. At the same time, Teachers are very much at home in complex situations which require the juggling of much data with little pre-planning. An experienced Teacher group leader can dream up, effortlessly, and almost endlessly, activities for groups to engage in, and stimulating roles for members of the group to play. In some Teachers, inspired by the responsiveness of their students or followers, this can amount to genius which other types find hard to emulate. Such ability to preside without planning reminds us somewhat of an Provider, but the latter acts more as a master of ceremonies than as a leader of groups. Providers are natural hosts and hostesses, making sure that each guest is well looked after at social gatherings, or that the right things are expressed on traditional occasions, such as weddings, funerals, graduations, and the like. In much the same way, Teachers value harmonious human relations about all else, can handle people with charm and concern, and are usually popular wherever they are. But Teachers are not so much social as educational leaders, interested primarily in the personal growth and development of others, and less in attending to their social needs.

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The Idealist most committed to guiding others through the doors of life, or along the pathways of learning and understanding, is the type that Keirsey has named the Teacher (Myers's "ENFJ").

Teachers are natural facilitators in all their relationships, encouraging those around them, urging their personal growth, and taking charge of others (particularly of groups) with an extraordinary enthusiasm and confidence. Indeed, Teachers are so expressive and charismatic in their leadership -- in a word, so inspiring -- that they seem in some ways less coercive than the other Idealists. Keirsey says that, though Teachers are both expressive and role-directive, they manage to "command without seeming to do so," not by means of explicit orders, nor through saintly patience, romantic longing, or mute withdrawal, but by kindling in their students and colleagues their own passion for self-exploration and development. Teachers are masters of the art of positive expectation (or "front-loading"), and they communicate their belief in the evolution of the "self" with such a glow of promise that quite often, as Keirsey tells us, their optimism "induces action" in others, and the "desire to live up to [their] expectations."

Teachers bring all this infectious energy to their intimate relationships as well, and they make passionate and delightfully creative companions. However, at such close range the intensity of their wishes for their loved ones can create interpersonal conflict. Teachers can overwhelm their loved ones with their exuberance, and with their Pygmalion presumption that everyone wants to be helped along the path of self-discovery. Then, when their loved ones either resist their pressure or fail to meet their idealistic expectations, Teachers can feel frustrated, disillusioned, or even betrayed by the persons they care most about.

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Canadian with supremely sexy British accent available on command

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Posted by Turgan (Member # 6697) on :
 
I am eSfJ (Or a "Provider", as they call it)

Provider Guardians take it upon themselves to arrange for the health and welfare of those in their care, but they are also the most sociable of all the Guardians, and thus are the great nurturers of established institutions such as schools, businesses, churches, social clubs, and civic groups. Wherever they go, Providers take up the role of social contributor, happily giving their time and energy to make sure that the needs of others are met, that traditions are supported and developed, and that social functions are a success.

Providers are very likely more than ten percent of the population, and this is very fortunate for the rest of us, because friendly social service is a key to their nature. Highly cooperative themselves, Providers are skilled in maintaining teamwork among their helpers, and are also tireless in their attention to the details of furnishing goods and services. They make excellent chairpersons in charge of social events. They are without peer as masters of ceremonies, able to approach others with ease and confidence, and seemingly aware of what everyone’s been doing. And they are outstanding hosts or hostesses, able to remember people’s names, usually after one introduction, and always concerned about the needs of their guests, wanting to insure that all are involved and provided for.

Providers are extremely sensitive to the feelings of others, which makes them perhaps the most sympathetic of all the types, but which also leaves them rather self-conscious, that is, highly sensitive to what others think of them. Because of this Providers can be crushed by personal criticism, and will work most effectively when given ample appreciation both for themselves personally and for the service they give to others. This is not to say that Providers are afraid to express their own emotional reactions. They are quick to like and dislike—and don’t mind saying so—tending to put on a pedestal whatever or whoever they admire, and to come down hard on those people and issues they don’t care for.

In their choice of careers, Providers may lean toward sales and service occupations. They have such pleasant, outgoing personalities that they are far and away the best sales reps, not only regularly winning sales contests, but earning seniority in any sales group within an organization. Observing ESFJs at work in a sales transaction reveals clearly how this type personalizes the sale. They are visibly—and honestly—concerned with their customer’s welfare, and thus the customer is not simply buying the product, but is buying personally from the Provider. This same characteristic causes them to be good in many people-to-people jobs, as teachers, clergy, coaches, social workers, office receptionists, and so on. Providers seldom become a source of irritation in the workplace; on the contrary, they are unflagging in their devotion to their company, and show such personal loyalty to their immediate superiors that they make invaluable personal secretaries.

President George Washington is an iconic example of a Provider Guardian temperament

Guardians of birthdays, holidays and celebrations, ESFJs are generous entertainers. They enjoy and joyfully observe traditions and are liberal in giving, especially where custom prescribes.
All else being equal, ESFJs enjoy being in charge. They see problems clearly and delegate easily, work hard and play with zest. ESFJs, as do most SJs, bear strong allegiance to rights of seniority. They willingly provide service (which embodies life's meaning) and expect the same from others.

ESFJs are easily wounded. And when wounded, their emotions will not be contained. They by nature "wear their hearts on their sleeves," often exuding warmth and bonhomie, but not infrequently boiling over with the vexation of their souls. Some ESFJs channel these vibrant emotions into moving dramatic performances on stage and screen.

Strong, contradictory forces consume the ESFJ. Their sense of right and wrong wrestles with an overwhelming rescuing, 'mothering' drive. This sometimes results in swift, immediate action taken upon a transgressor, followed by stern reprimand; ultimately, however, the prodigal is wrested from the gallows of their folly, just as the noose tightens and all hope is lost, by the very executioner!

An ESFJ at odds with self is a remarkable sight. When a decision must be made, especially one involving the risk of conflict (abhorrent to ESFJs), there ensues an in-house wrestling match between the aforementioned black-and-white Values and the Nemesis of Discord. The contender pits self against self, once firmly deciding with the Right, then switching to Prudence to forestall hostilities, countered by unswerving Values, ad exhaustium, winner take all.

As caretakers, ESFJs sense danger all around--germs within, the elements without, unscrupulous malefactors, insidious character flaws. The world is a dangerous place, not to be trusted. Not that the ESFJ is paranoid; 'hyper-vigilant' would be more precise. And thus they serve excellently as protectors, outstanding in fields such as medical care and elementary education.

Functional Analysis
ESFJs live in their Extraverted Feeling functioning. Feeling, a rational (i.e., deciding) function, expresses opinions easily in the E world of objects and people. ESFJs have the ability to express warmth, rage, and a range of other emotions. Actions are encouraged or rebuked based on how they affect other people, especially people near and dear to the ESFJ. This type's vocal decisiveness predisposes many of its number to facility with administration and supervision.

The secondary Introverted Sensing function aids and abets the dominant Fe in that sensate data is collected and at once compared with the inner forms or standards. Data on which decisions are made are thus focused and given a contrast which tends to be stronger and clearer than the original stimuli. The strengthening effect of Si on Fe may be responsible for this type's reputation for wearing their "hearts on their sleeves." At any rate, ESFJs reflect the "black and white" view of reality which is common to the SJ types.

Extraverted iNtuition is tertiary--as the ESFJ matures, and as situations arise which call for suspension of criticism, Ne is allowed to play. Under the leadership of the Fe function, iNtuition allows for a loosening of the more rigid Si rights and wrongs; teasing and slapstick humor emerge. ESFJs are also capable of discerning patterns and philosophies, but such perceiving is subject to the weakness of the tertiary position, and the results often lack the variety and complexity of connections that more complex systems require.

The inferior Ti function may rarely be expressed. In fact, ESFJs may take affront at the aloof, detached nature of dominant Ti types, or conversely, be drawn to them. Some ESFJs construct rationale which have the appearance of (Jungian) Thinking logic, but under scrutiny are in fact command performances of "Thinking in the service of Feeling," (i.e., Thinking-like conclusions which do not obey the tenets of impersonal logic; they rather construct scenarios from only those "hard, cold facts" which support the conclusion reached by the dominant Extraverted Feeling function. To wit:

You don't sew with a fork, so I see no reason to eat
with knitting needles.
-- Miss Piggy, on eating Chinese Food

Famous ESFJs:
U.S. Presidents:
William McKinley
William J. Clinton
Jack Benny
Desi Arnaz ("Ricky Ricardo")
Don Knotts ("Barney Fife")
John Connally (former Governor of Texas)
Terry Bradshaw, NFL quarterback
Sally Struthers (All in the Family)
Mary Tyler Moore
Dixie Carter (Designing Women)
Steve Spurrier, Heismann trophy winner, Univ. of Fla. football coach
Sally Field
Danny Glover, actor (Lethal Weapon movies, Predator 2 Margaret Butt
Nancy Kerrigan (U.S. olympic figureskater)
Elvis Stojko (Canadian olympic figureskater)

Fictional ESFJs:
Babbitt (Sinclair Lewis)
Hoss Cartwright (Bonanza)
Leonard "Bones" McCoy (Star Trek)
Monica (Friends)
Haleh (ER)
Donald Duck
Rabbit, Winnie the Pooh
 

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Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
You know, Turgan, I always thought you were an "Elvis Stojko" type.
 

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Posted by Sara Sasse (Member # 6804) on :
 

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Teachers have the charming characteristic of taking for granted that their expectations will be met, their implicit commands obeyed, never doubting that people will want to do what they suggest. And, more often than not, people do, because this type has extraordinary charisma.

... They prefer to plan both work and social engagements ahead of time and tend to be absolutely reliable in honoring these commitments.

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Yup.

Hey, PSI, I'm only a "1" for T anyway.

(BtL: glorious)
 

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Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
Your Type is
ENFJ
Extroverted Intuitive Feeling Judging
Strength of the preferences %
33 11 33 11 moderately expressed extrovert

slightly expressed intuitive personality

moderately expressed feeling personality

slightly expressed judging personality

I'm like fugu and TomD? Weird

[ September 22, 2004, 01:36 PM: Message edited by: breyerchic04 ]
 

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Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
Sort of, I think you're more middle of the road in everything but J/P than either of us. I have a huge score in favor of intuitive.
 

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Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
 
I've taken this once in College, once last year, and just now... and all three have been the same.

I am a ENFP... or The Champion.

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The Champion Idealists are abstract in thought and speech, cooperative in accomplishing their aims, and informative and extraverted when relating with others. For Champions, nothing occurs which does not have some deep ethical significance, and this, coupled with their uncanny sense of the motivations of others, gives them a talent for seeing life as an exciting drama, pregnant with possibilities for both good and evil. This type is found in only about 3 percent of the general population, but they have great influence because of their extraordinary impact on others. Champions are inclined to go everywhere and look into everything that has to do with the advance of good and the retreat of evil in the world. They can't bear to miss out on what is going on around them; they must experience, first hand, all the significant social events that affect our lives. And then they are eager to relate the stories they've uncovered, hoping to disclose the "truth" of people and issues, and to advocate causes. This strong drive to unveil current events can make them tireless in conversing with others, like fountains that bubble and splash, spilling over their own words to get it all out.
Champions consider intense emotional experiences as being vital to a full life, although they can never quite shake the feeling that a part of themselves is split off, uninvolved in the experience. Thus, while they strive for emotional congruency, they often see themselves in some danger of losing touch with their real feelings, which Champions possess in a wide range and variety. In the same vein, Champions strive toward a kind of spontaneous personal authenticity, and this intention always to "be themselves" is usually communicated nonverbally to others, who find it quite attractive. All too often, however, Champions fall short in their efforts to be authentic, and they tend to heap coals of fire on themselves, berating themselves for the slightest self-conscious role-playing.

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Extraverted iNtuitive Feeling Perceiving
by Marina Margaret Heiss

Profile: ENFP
Revision: 2.4
Date of Revision: 20 Jul 03

[The following comes partially from the archetype, but mostly from my own dealings with ENFPs.]

General: ENFPs are both "idea"-people and "people"-people, who see everyone and everything as part of an often bizarre cosmic whole. They want to both help (at least, their own definition of "help") and be liked and admired by other people, on bo th an individual and a humanitarian level. They are interested in new ideas on principle, but ultimately discard most of them for one reason or another.

Social/Personal Relationships: ENFPs have a great deal of zany charm, which can ingratiate them to the more stodgy types in spite of their unconventionality. They are outgoing, fun, and genuinely like people. As SOs/mates they are warm, affectionate (l ots of PDA), and disconcertingly spontaneous. However, attention span in relationships can be short; ENFPs are easily intrigued and distracted by new friends and acquaintances, forgetting about the older ones for long stretches at a time. Less mature E NFPs may need to feel they are the center of attention all the time, to reassure them that everyone thinks they're a wonderful and fascinating person.

ENFPs often have strong, if unconvential, convictions on various issues related to their Cosmic View. They usually try to use their social skills and contacts to persuade people gently of the rightness of these views; his sometimes results in their negle cting their nearest and dearest while flitting around trying to save the world.
Work Environment: ENFPs are pleasant, easygoing, and usually fun to work with. They come up with great ideas, and are a major asset in brainstorming sessions. Followthrough tends to be a problem, however; they tend to get bored quickly, especially if a newer, more interesting project comes along. They also tend to be procrastinators, both about meeting hard deadlines and about performing any small, uninteresting tasks that they've been assigned. ENFPs are at their most useful when working in a group w ith a J or two to take up the slack.

ENFPs hate bureaucracy, both in principle and in practice; they will always make a point of launching one of their crusades against some aspect of it.

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Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
it's still weird
 

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Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
 
I am on the border between ESFP and ENFP (F and T are close, too). I would say ENFP because the description matches.

The breakdown is as follows:

Extroverted 59%
Introverted 40%

Sensing 50%
Intuitive(N)50%

Feeling 51%
Thinking 48%

Perceiving 68%
Judging 31%
 

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
Did y'all read the link AJ posted? I read my profile for that and was a little floored. Some of the sentiment they subscribe to ENTPs I think I have actually said, almost verbatim.
 

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Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
I waver between INFJ and INTJ.

I refuse to be boxed by a set of questions in 3space!
 

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Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
Uh, this test is in 4space.


 

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Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
Kat -- at that link it also has information on who is our best "match-up" as a mate.

So what I want to know is -- is Sara going to use all this information we have given her when she ever gets around to working on the Matchmaker thread??

Farmgirl
 

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Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
 
<--- ENFP

[ September 22, 2004, 02:31 PM: Message edited by: Tammy ]
 

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Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
 
*hugs Tammy*

Welcome!
 

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Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
I come up INTP (56, 67, 44, 11).

The thing that always gets me about these tests is that I never feel like any of the descriptions are spot on. I also always wonder whether I am answering the questions accurately, or whether I don't see myself as I actually am. I often think that the best way to get accurate results would be for someone who knows me really well to take it for me.
 

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Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
 
(I think this is a great thread, btw.)

I think my score is totally me.

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Your Type is
ENFP
Extroverted Intuitive Feeling Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
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I took a psych class once where the teacher gave a test similar to this and when he handed out the results most people thought the results were dead on. The catch was that he only handed out two different results and just relabeled them. So I wonder how many of the other results we would find more similar to ourselves compared to the result given. Just a thought.

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My psych teacher last year had us write something in our normal handwriting, so he could "analyze" it. The next day he handed the results back to us and told us we couldn't show them to anyone else. He asked us to rate the accuracy on a scale from one to five and almost everyone said it was either dead on or really close. Then he asked someone to read theirs and we realized that they were all exactly the same.
 

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Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
Ooo, I have always wanted to have my handwriting analyzed! I learned just a tiny bit about it and was fascinated. If anyone knows more about it, please let me know.
 

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Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
 
Actually I disagreed with my Myers Briggs analysis. I told the faciliator it was wrong, it wasn't me.

He told me to talk about it with my therapist - he was from the same counseling agency.

I did, and we discussed and delved into it and she was able to show me how my depression had deeply affected me and changed my perception of myself. Finding out my personality type was freeing - I began to believe that maybe I wasn't the introverted, pessismistic, dour person I believed myself to be. Once I started working my way out of the depression, it became more and more apparent how much of an ENFP I really was - when I was myself and wasn't sick.

I personally don't think that you can fit any of the profiles, not if you take the real test and look at the results. I can tell that I am not an ISTJ, and that my husband for the most part is definitely not an NFP. He is an ESTJ, the only thing we share in common is the E. My sister in law is the poster child for ISTJ's. My brother shares traits with me but is an S instead of an N. His F is really, really high.

After studying it to the extent that I have - I don't think these results can apply to anyone.
 

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Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
 
Belle
 

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Posted by Mabus (Member # 6320) on :
 
"I personally don't think that you can fit any of the profiles, not if you take the real test and look at the results."

Belle, I'm not sure what you mean...you also say that you do fit a different profile. Can you explain what you mean?

I did take the real test, in college, and it came out very close to the same.
 

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Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
Last night, for fun, I went through the tests and tried to guess which ones best fit an engaged couple I know. I asked them to take the test today and I was dead-on for both of them. I think that's interesting. But as far as the matchmaking goes, we all thought it didn't seem right. Not only were both sets of partners (my husband and me, C and G) listed as enemies or nemeses or whatever, but the suggestions for partners struck us all as very incorrect. For example, I'm am an INFJ which matched me quite well, but it suggested an extrovert as my partner which is totally wrong....I always do badly with extroverts. ALL of my close friends and my partner are extreme introverts. It wasn't just like that for me; we all disagreed with the friends and partners suggestions.
 

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Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 

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Did y'all read the link AJ posted? I read my profile for that and was a little floored. Some of the sentiment they subscribe to ENTPs I think I have actually said, almost verbatim.

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FoolishTook (Self proclaimed thread killer.

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I killed more threads as a kid than I do now, but I've still got it.

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New and mysterious. And, well, male. But the heart, she follows no rules)

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I suppose I'll have to un-closet myself and reveal to the Hatrack world that I'm female. (There's probably about 0.015 people here who really care, but that's that.) I'd like to get a Freudian thought on a person's reluctance to reveal his/her gender in a place where it isn't already obvious.
 

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Posted by Wonko The Sane (Member # 2945) on :
 
ISFP
Introverted Sensing Feeling Perceiving
78 1 33 78

very expressed introvert

slightly expressed sensing personality

moderately expressed feeling personality

very expressed perceiving personality
 

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Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
I think I knew you were a chick, Took.
 

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Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
So I can say "but Kat and Ralphie do it too?"

hmm guess I'm in good company then. Can't get much better that's for sure!


AJ
 

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
Ralphie and Banna, I know exactly what you mean. It's not really justified, but at least I'm not a morally-depraved monster for rushing around the house to get there five minutes late and thinking it is okay - I'm five minutes late, but they get me.

[ September 23, 2004, 10:59 AM: Message edited by: katharina ]
 

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Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
Chris Bridges clock system does help for that. But I don't set the clocks. Steve does, so I don't know how to calculate the exact time, which is the only way it comes close to working.

AJ
 

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Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
I was just thinking about you today, Foolish Took, and thinking that something in my memory said that you were female. I wasn't sure if I was remembering right or not.
 

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Posted by Xaposert (Member # 1612) on :
 
ISFP
Raia
T_Smith
Wonko the Sane

ESFP
IanO (possibly ENFP)

ISFJ
Christy
Eruve Nandiriel
rivka

ESFJ
dabbler
Turgan

ISTP
Misha McBride

ESTP

ISTJ
mr_porteiro_head (possibly ISTP)

ESTJ
Farmgirl

INFP
Zalmoxis
xnera
advice for robots
Avatar300
Happy Camper

ENFP
Belle
Elizabeth
Annie
Telperion the Silver
Tammy

INFJ
Teshi
beverly
amira tharani
Dragon
Teleport
skillery
MEC
Taalcon
Jess N
Ela
FoolishTook
littlemissattitude
Trondheim
Scott R (possibly INTJ)

ENFJ
TomDavidson
fugu13
breyerchic04

INTP
RRR
Xaposert
Mike
saxon75

ENTP
BannaOj
katharina
Bob the Lawyer
Ralphie
Lucky4

INTJ
sndrake
Bokonon
alath
Hobbes
Jeni
PSI Teleport
Megan
Stray
Maccabeus
Vadon
dkw
Dagonee
Mr. Funny
Sara Sasse
signal (possibly INTP)
MidnightBlue

ENTJ
Carrie
Allegra
peterh

Conclusion: Given that N's are rarer than S's as a whole, this forum is extremely biased towards N's.

I guess this shouldn't surpise anyone, though, given which types most likely prefer science fiction reading and going on to forums to post about religion and politics.

Looks like we also have lots of J's and lots of I's.

[ September 23, 2004, 11:43 AM: Message edited by: Xaposert ]
 

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Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
Fascinating results!! So many of the ones they say are rare. That must be why I love Hatrack so much.

Porter didn't mention it here, but he is an ISTP. (If one of us were an extravert, he would be my complete opposite.) I haven't seen any others here.

Oh, whoops, there is one.

[ September 23, 2004, 11:49 AM: Message edited by: beverly ]
 

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Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
Time to embrace my inner introvert.

*closes off*
 

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Posted by prolixshore (Member # 4496) on :
 
I am INTJ. ALways and consistently, with very high scores in each category. Although lately I have moved to being less introverted.

INTJ is the way to be baby!

--ApostleRadio
 

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
Frisco's an INTJ.
 

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Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
 
Is it just me or is team ENTP the super cool group that everyone else wishes they were in?

(Is that a very ENTP thing to say? Must analyze! I can analyze, right? That's a T thing?)

I also find it pretty funny that pretty much the only people I've talked to outside of the forum proper are other ENTPs. Such a clique.
 

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
We're extroverted (loud), opinionated (loud), and spontaneous (unnerving). I'm not entirely sure that's the same as cool.

Looking over the list, it really does go a long way towards explaining why Hatrack is dang fun at hang out with/at.

[ September 23, 2004, 12:13 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
 

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Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
INTJs are the masterminds. Which means we use the "cool" clique to keep everyone from noticing us taking over the world.

Dagonee
 

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Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
 
When our facilitator gave us the test in my retreat, he said the most exclusive and best clique to belong to was the ENFP, thank you very much. And no, he wasn't one.

He just said ENFP's are wonderful people. They care so much about others, are compassionate, but they also love to have fun and are the life of the party. Their only drawback is that so few of them can adequately balance their checkbooks.

A meeting of ENFP's is going to be a blast to attend, but you'll go hungry because none of them would have though ahead enough and been detail oriented enough to plan for food.
 

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
Annie plans for food. *follows Annie to next party*
 

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Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 

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He just said ENFP's are wonderful people. They care so much about others, are compassionate, but they also love to have fun and are the life of the party.

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Hey Telp, you're me!

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INFJ's want you all to just get along.

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Now we know why Taalcon gets so irritated with me.
 

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Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
 
Add me to the ENFP pile, I'm sure no surprise to anyone there...
 

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Posted by Stray (Member # 4056) on :
 
I'm an INTJ and my husband is an ENFP; we both match the profile descriptions extremely well. I haven't looked at the matchmaking recommendation site in quite a while, but I seem to remember it saying that sharing the N is what makes us compatible, because it means we take in and process information about the world in similar ways. Or something. Anyway, he and I make an awesome team, so I suppose I'm just pleased to see further confirmation of that
 

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Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
 

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When our facilitator gave us the test in my retreat, he said the most exclusive and best clique to belong to was the ENFP, thank you very much. And no, he wasn't one.

He just said ENFP's are wonderful people. They care so much about others, are compassionate, but they also love to have fun and are the life of the party. Their only drawback is that so few of them can adequately balance their checkbooks.

A meeting of ENFP's is going to be a blast to attend, but you'll go hungry because none of them would have though ahead enough and been detail oriented enough to plan for food.

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This is so me!! Lol! My checkbook is unbalanced and my room is a mess!
 

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Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
 
ISFJ here.
 

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Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
 
Hm. Strange. When I took the Myers Briggs test four years ago, I was INFP. I was a very pronounced introvert (still am--why do you think I lurk so much?), but much more centralized on the other three. Still, I've taken these types of personality tests online several times since then, and I've always ended up INFP.

Then I met and married Jon Boy. He's an INFJ, according to this test. And when I just took it again, I was INFJ too. I wonder if I've just matured since the last time I took it and settled into a "new" me, or whether he's changed my personality slightly, or whether being married has just given me a more objective view of what I'm really like, or whether this test is just slightly inaccurate.

It adds a new dimension to the idea that people grow more alike the longer they're married to each other.
 

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Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
lol Steve and I have been together nearly 5 years.

I'm ENTP(The Field Marshal)-ENTJ (The Inventor) with the P slightly more dominant but probably 60%-40%

He's INTP (The Mastermind)-ENTP (The Field Marshal) at probably a 70%-30% ratio. So we overlap quite a bit.

But, I guess that explains why I'm the one who gets myself in trouble by taking apart a Kirby vaccum cleaner and having extra screws when I put it together again.

AJ
 

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Posted by FoolishTook (Member # 5358) on :
 

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I was just thinking about you today, Foolish Took, and thinking that something in my memory said that you were female. I wasn't sure if I was remembering right or not.

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I think I knew you were a chick, Took.

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I must have let something slip. Either that or someone on Hatrack is running around looking up skirts.
 

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Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
 
Well it wasn't me Took...I thought you were a guy.
 

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Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
I am STILL the only ESTJ on this board? Maybe I don't belong here!! *wail*

(although Belle did say her husband is ESTJ -- make him post!)

Farmgirl
 

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Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
 

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I am STILL the only ESTJ on this board?

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I also find it pretty funny that pretty much the only people I've talked to outside of the forum proper are other ENTPs.

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
I think I found my latest obsession.

So, I sent this to my dad. Dad = INTJ

I also sent this to my oldest-and-we-still-talk-a-couple-times-a-week friend. Molly = INFJ

Molly happens to be one of the Mormon accountants, but she's also the screamingly funny person you want to stand next to at a party because you want to catch what she says and she never repeats The Funny.

My favorite roommate from college. Lillian = INFJ

*pat pats test* This is fun. I think it works.

[ September 24, 2004, 11:39 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
 

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Posted by Sara Sasse (Member # 6804) on :
 


INxJ
 

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Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
 
INTJ, again.

At least I'm in good company here....
 

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
This is officially my latest obsession. I dreamt about it last night.

I was on my way to the plays, Posing as People. I parked on a wooded street and climbed the fire escape to the top of a brick building like those we could see from the el in Chicago. On my way to my seat, someone stopped me - I had bounced a check. Three hundred fifty dollars to a name I didn't recognize for "Care of Joe." This didn't make sense, and that's a lot of money to not remember, but I figured it would work out and I had forgotten something. I stuck it in my pocket.

Halfway through the play, I took it back out, and it hit me. Joe! Joe's my baby! I haven't seen the baby for a week! Oh, CRAP - where did I put him? I gathered my stuff and ran back down the stairs, just knowing that they'd turned Joe back over to the social authorities. And where's his father? Who is that?

It seemed like the dream lasted another ten minutes as I tried to drive to the daycare where I was sure I had left him, but my brain was intruding and trying to put the timeline back together. Where did the kid come from? I seemed to remember the baby, but I couldn't remember having the baby.

I woke up confused and wondering where and who the baby was. I think I'm thinking about the profiles too much.

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One minute they will exhibit a lot of interest and enthusiasm towards being around their kids, and will display a great deal of affection for them. However, as soon as they get caught-up in one of their grand schemes for improving a system somewhere, they're likely to inadvertantly neglect their kids.

Not usually good at managing money.

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These are the ones that aren't even true (I think), but I think my subconcious is worried.

[ September 26, 2004, 12:58 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
 

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Posted by Zeugma (Member # 6636) on :
 
I'm an INTJ, have been since I first took the test ten years ago, though I occasionally score as an INTP during my less self-confident periods.

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INTJs have a drive to completion, always with an eye to long term consequences. Ideas seem to carry their own force for INTJs, although they subject every idea to the test of usefulness. Difficulties are highly stimulating to INTJs, who love responding to a challenge that requires creativity. These personality traits lead INTJs to occupations where theoretical models can be translated into actuality. Teamed with an INTP wh ois the architect of systems, the INTJ provides dimension to an organization which insures that the work of the INTP does not gather dust on library shelves. INTJs live to see systems translated into substance; an INTP, by way of contrast, is content to design the system.

INTJs can be very single minded at times; this can be either a weakness or a strength in their careers, for they can ignore the points of view and wishes of others. INTJs usually rise to positions of responsibility, for they work long and hard and are steady in their pursuit of goals, sparing neither time nor effort on their part of that of their colleagues and employees.

Fellow workers of INTJs often feel as if the INTJ can see right through them, and often believe that the INTJ finds them wanting. This tendancy of people to feel transparent in the presence of the INTJ often results in relationships which have psychological distance. Thus colleagues find the INTJ apparantly unemotional and, at time, cold and dispassionate. Because of their tendancy to drive others as hard as they do themselves, INTJs often seem demanding and difficult to satisfy. INTJs are high achievers in school and on the job. They make dedicated loyal employees whose loyalties are directed toward the system, rather than toward the individuals within the system. So the INTJ has little difficulty with people who come and go at work, unlike an NF would (NFs have more of their loyalties involved more with people rather than offices).

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I really wish I could just tape the letters "INTJ" to my office door and have people deal with me on those terms. But I guess that wouldn't be... appropriate. I suppose my desire to have everyone I know take this test, so I can finally understand how I'm supposed to treat them, is indicative of the type...

I did just marry an ENTP, the natural mate of the INTJ. Score.

Edit: Sitting here thinking about all the ways the INTJ profile fits me, I remembered my birthday last week, when the car broke down halfway to the far-away restaurant where we were having lunch. My instant reaction was twofold: I was thrilled, as I always am, by the challenge of dealing with the breakdown in the best possible way, and I was relieved that I would get a chance to bond over a "stressful" situation with the two new friends accomanying us before we got to lunch. I had been worried that I wouldn't know what to say to them, but there's nothing like car trouble to bring people together. We had plenty to talk about.

That's me in a nutshell, I guess. (and, by the way, we were only 30 minutes late for lunch. )

[ September 26, 2004, 12:07 PM: Message edited by: Zeugma ]
 

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
We (Coccinelle and I) have spent the past couple of days predicting what personality type people have and them making them take the test. We are batting a thousand so far (okay, sample size of one, but she was distinctly expressed on all counts) This is really fun.

That description of the INTJ is so spot on for my dad I hear twilight zone music. The family business is having industry-specialized auditor inspections next week and he was telling me on Saturday about the threatened beheadings if people didn't follow the system well enough in order to pass.

"If they have a better idea of how to do the process, then let's change the process. But until the process has been changed, doing it their own will incur wrath." Priceless.

My uncle is (I'm guessing) an ENFP/ENTP, and he handles the larger picture and direction of the business while my dad handles all operations in order to make it happen. It's really quite handy.

[ September 26, 2004, 12:14 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
 

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Posted by Zeugma (Member # 6636) on :
 
My absolute favorite friends are the ones I can ignore for 2 years and have nothing be different when I call them out of the blue. It's not that I don't appreciate my friends, it's just that I don't have the energy to keep up with them if they're not sitting in the same room as me. Calling for the sake of calling isn't really a priority for me.
 

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
Oh my stars, you are my dad. He talks to his best friend (outside of his wife) about once a year and sees absolutely nothing odd about that. They'll have one phone conversation every 18 months or so and then decide to take a trip with all the guys to Alaska together.

[ September 26, 2004, 12:23 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
 

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Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
That's just like me.
 

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Posted by Zeugma (Member # 6636) on :
 
Kaaaaat.... *rasp* I am.... your faaaaather.....

Heh, I'm almost embarrassed by how quickly I can subconsiously label someone "high-maintenance" just because they think something's wrong with the friendship if we haven't met up in a week.... oi. I've had friends who decide that I hate them if I don't talk to them for x number of hours every x number of days.... and I try to keep them happy.... but generally the friendship doesn't last too long. My mom is definitely one of those people, and it's one of many reasons I'm really struggling with my relationship with her.
 

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
*laugh*

I have to say that when I think of my dad as a friend, we get along GREAT. When I need a parent or attention, though, I've had to find other places to get it because it's sure not coming from him.

On the upside, he and my mother together were almost perfect parents as a team. It's just when he's on his own that it breaks down. I don't know what my mothe was, though - my dad took the test 15 years ago the first time, so I wrote him and am hoping he can tell me what my mother got.
 

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Posted by Zeugma (Member # 6636) on :
 
I have to say, I've always really loved this test. Part of me says that "personality types" are hogwash, no different than the ridiculously broad daily horoscopes.... but it's always so satisfying to read over my profile and feel so... understood. It's such a fun framework for describing how I see the world.
 

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Posted by Sunil (Member # 6892) on :
 
INFP - what OSC called the best type suited to novel writing =)

Not all the description was true of me. I think I have some INTP tendencies as well.

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INFPs struggle with the issue of their own ethical perfection, e.g., perfo rmance of duty for the greater cause. An INFP friend describes the inner conflict as not good versus bad, but on a grand scale, Good vs. Evil. Luke Skywalker in Star Wars depicts this conflict in his struggle between the two sides of "The Force." Although the dark side must be reckoned with, the INFP believes that good ultimately triumphs.

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Man, I am glad this isn't true for me. I'm more of a moral relatavist.

ENTPs are my favorite.
 

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Posted by unicornwhisperer (Member # 294) on :
 
ISFJ

Also known as a Protector...?

Famous ISFJs includes Kristi Yamaguchi YEAH!! (I love Figure Skating!)

[ September 28, 2004, 03:13 PM: Message edited by: unicornwhisperer ]
 

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Posted by Polio (Member # 6479) on :
 
ESTJ... something about a Supervisor or Guardian... closed the window too fast and don't care enough to find out more...
Edit: Farmgirl, I'm here for you!

[ September 28, 2004, 04:27 PM: Message edited by: Polio ]
 

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
Polio, look at the first post on the second page. You're the same as FarmGirl.
 

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Posted by Polio (Member # 6479) on :
 
Yeah, I just caught that...
 

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Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
 

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Your Type is
ISFJ
Introverted Sensing Feeling Judging
Strength of the preferences %
78 56 44 22

You are:
very expressed introvert
moderately expressed sensing personality
moderately expressed feeling personality
slightly expressed judging personality

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
The obsession is almost over, I promise. Mostly because I'm running out of people around me to test.

I sent this to my buddy and oldest friend and other half and partner in crime, and I predicted that he'd be the same personality that I am, only more so. This is mostly because I thought I was introverted for years because, in comparison to Anthonie, I am. Also in comparison to Anthonie, I'm level-headed, good with money, follow through with things, am careful about fellow human sensibilities, and have a realistic view of the world.

This is important mostly because when I stopped being around Anthonie all the time, I discovered that I wasn't any of the above and that confused me greatly.

Anyway, he's so much fun. The annual Harry Potter birthday party and the Movie Extravaganza (where he rents out a theatre opening night), the Annual Magic Mountain Trip, and the Dinner Rotations (cook once every two weeks, eat well every night) are/were all his idea, although to be fair the Midsummer Night Midnight Poetry Readings, chocolate frogs, shadow dancing, and scavenger hunts were mine.

My prediction was correct:

Antnie:

Extroverted 44
Intuitive 67
Thinking 1
Perceiving 56

[ October 05, 2004, 04:30 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
 

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Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
I was researching these personality types, and so I pulled up this thread. I see that on that test I tested as an INFJ. (The results I got back when I took it in this thread.) I am pretty sure I am actually an INFP. I came out an INFP years ago when I took the test, and it still rings true more than any of the others, though I share some traits with the ISFJ persona. Funny thing was, I took the test again just now and came out ISFP. I am *not* an ISFP.

I think the problem with some of these tests is that I don't know what they mean by the question, or I need some sort of "other" option. Some of the questions are phrased very poorly, IMO.

Anyway, one of the reasons I poked my head in here again was to see what some of y'all are. (I am still in the process of doing just that.) I have been enjoying studying this the last couple of days.

Oh, and reading the personality types, Porter bears a *lot* of similarities to the INTJ--perhaps more than to the ISTP he originally tested as.

[ February 27, 2005, 09:07 PM: Message edited by: beverly ]
 

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Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
Oh, wow -- it was the F/T that was close for me before. I misremembered that. Currently I am on the cusp between INTJ and INTP, with P just barely predominating.
 

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Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Huh. I've gone from an INFJ to an INFP. o_O
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
I decided to re-take it for certain... things have come into my life since the last time... Some of which have changed my views on things in life.

However, I remain an INTJ

78 75 25 44

And thus I dissappear again into shadows.
 

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Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Last time I tested as ISFJ (don't remember the percentages, but some were close, I think.

This time

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INFP
Introverted Intuitive Feeling Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
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Reading the descriptions, I see aspects of both in myself. Betwixt and between, I guess.

[ February 27, 2005, 10:17 PM: Message edited by: rivka ]
 

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Posted by EarlNMeyer-Flask (Member # 1546) on :
 
INTJ

I 89 N 62 T 88 J 22

The official website:
http://www.keirsey.com/

I took the humanmetrics celebrity test and it compared me to Emmy Noether, Dwight Eisenhower, and a nobel winning doctor.


Most people that take this test on this thread have been N's, and this is probably because the N's are idea-centered whereas the S's are environment centered. This test is in the idea world.

Television programs are a great way to study the types. Each type is represented on the hit Desperate Housewives. My own analysis is that Brie is the ISTJ Guardian. She is conservative and tough minded. Her style of dress is very simple and down-to-earth. She cares a great deal about what other people think about her and her family. Lynette is an ENTJ. She keeps an organized home (J), and she hungers for power and work success (NT). Susan is an INFJ/P. She seems to keep a clean home. She has a rich inner fantasy world (she makes fantasy art), and she wants considerable romance in her relationships. Gabrielle is an ESFP Artisan. She clearly has an hedonic interest in clothing, food, and cars, and she resorts to blackmail when she doesn't get her way. She sees sex as basically pleasure with her affair with the lawn boy.

[ October 14, 2005, 05:18 AM: Message edited by: EarlNMeyer-Flask ]
 

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Posted by 0range7Penguin (Member # 7337) on :
 
INTP
 

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Posted by ifmyheartcouldbeat (Member # 8692) on :
 
Introverted Sensing Feeling Perceiving
 

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Posted by JLM (Member # 7800) on :
 
I N T J
33 38 75 11

What is interesting is that I took a similar test as part of leadership training at work about 5 years ago. At that time I was INTP. But since then I have made an effort to become more organized and methodical and have changed my habits accordingly so now I shifted to the Judgement column.

So I guess the lesson is, these are not fixed traits of your personality, but merely tendencies which can be changed based on your own choices.
 

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Posted by JannieJ (Member # 8683) on :
 
INFP
Introverted Intuitive Feeling Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
78 62 88 100

very expressed introvert
distinctively expressed intuitive personality
very expressed feeling personality
very expressed perceiving personality
 

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
I remember this thread. This was quite a kick I was on. I learned a lot about myself and what I fit with in other people, so that's nice.
 

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Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
 
One thing that has disturbed me in reading this thread is realizing that the people I tend to like most are the ones most like me. Does that make me shallow/intolerant?
 

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
Normal?
 

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Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
 
I took it again and still came out ENFP. I've taken the real Myers-Briggs test more than once and always been ENFP. So I guess I'm pretty stable in that respect. If anything about ENFP's can ever be called "stable."
 

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Posted by firebird (Member # 1971) on :
 
ENTJ

Given that N's only make up 20 - 30 percent of the population that's quite something with the demographic we have here.

By being here we are already hugely self selecting as readers of sci-fi (predominantly NTs) and fantasy (predominately NFs).

The books I have on MBTI claim that the most 'healthy' / lasting relationships are between complete opposites apart from the language function letter (N or S). So my 'ideal' other half would be an INFP with ENFP running a close second.

Unfortunately ... In the corporate world that I inhabit we are about 45 % NTJs and 45% STJs ... and usually not an NF in sight.

So given that so many of you are NFs ... please let me know where I would find others of your temperament? How can I meet you? Where do you hang out?

Brinestone - I think it is totaly normal that you enjoy people who are like you the most. In particular, there is usually quite a stonrg and natural S vs N devide as the language we use is so different that we actually find it quite hard to understand each other.

My lasting friendships are mostly with NT's, with a few NF too. I've mellowed in my age to have more Ps who are fantastically spontaneous and entertaining.
 

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Posted by pfresh85 (Member # 8085) on :
 
I didn't take this one, but I typically wind up as INFJ or INFP. It's usually INFJ more than INFP (since I think I've only seen INFP twice, whereas I've seen INFJ several times).
 

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Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
I'm always an INTJ. I took it first when I was in college, more than 20 years ago, and every single time, I come out as INTJ.

Someone should start collating what everyone is here. The reason we did the test in college was, I was on the Hillel House student board, and they brought in this guy who gave us all (there were about 18 of us, as I recall) the test. A short form of it, I think.

Anyway, he put up on a blackboard where each of us were, and we had almost all 16 possibilities covered. Maybe 2 or 3 were missing. He said that showed we had a good mix on the board.

It'd be interesting to see what kind of mix we have here overall.
 

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Posted by genius00345 (Member # 8206) on :
 
I came out as ISTJ.
 

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Posted by airmanfour (Member # 6111) on :
 
I got INTJ, i guess that's good
 

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Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
 
*bumping because this thread made me think of it*

I'm a very pronounced INFP. I've taken the test several times over the years and it's always the same--and I'm very much a "P," as the following story will illustrate:

We had a trained Myers-Briggs guy come give a workshop at an office where I used to work. They sent us the test, we mailed it in, and then they analyzed the results and came and told us what it meant in terms of the way we functioned together as an organization. We broke for lunch, and a little bit before I went back to the conference room where we were meeting, I stopped by my office to check my emails. Well, I answered one and lost track of time, and the next thing I knew I was rushing back up to the room, late. Everyone laughed as I came in and sat down, and I discovered that while we were all gone he had put up a prediction, based on our test results, of the order in which we would return from our break. And I'd returned last, just as he'd predicted.
 

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Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
 
I am still an INTJ, but my numbers are now
Introverted 22
iNtuitive 100
Thinking 75
Judging 1

according to this thread, about two years ago I was
Introverted 56
iNtuitive 100
Thinking 11
Judging 11

I expected that I would turn out more extroverted than last time, but I am surprised my T jumped up and my J went down. I would have guessed the opposite.
 

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Posted by ginette (Member # 852) on :
 
I am INFJ

Nice thread kat
 

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Posted by ginette (Member # 852) on :
 
... and I updated Xaposert's post, here are the results:

ISFP
Raia
T_Smith
Wonko the Sane
ifmyheartcouldbeat

ESFP
IanO (possibly ENFP)

ISFJ
Christy
Eruve Nandiriel
Goody Scrivener
unicornwhisperer

ESFJ
dabbler
Turgan

ISTP
Misha McBride

ESTP

ISTJ
mr_porteiro_head (possibly ISTP)
genius00345

ESTJ
Farmgirl
Polio

INFP
Zalmoxis
xnera
advice for robots
Avatar300
Happy Camper
Noemon
Sunil
mackillian
rivka
JannieJ

ENFP
Belle
Elizabeth
Annie
Telperion the Silver
Tammy
Jim-Me

INFJ
Teshi
beverly
amira tharani
Dragon
Teleport
skillery
MEC
Taalcon
Jess N
Ela
FoolishTook
littlemissattitude
Trondheim
Scott R (possibly INTJ)
Brinestone
pfresh85
Ginette

ENFJ
TomDavidson
fugu13
breyerchic04

INTP
RRR
Xaposert
Mike
saxon75
ClaudiaTherese (possibly INTJ)
Orange7Penguin

ENTP
BannaOj
katharina
Bob the Lawyer
Ralphie
Lucky4

INTJ
sndrake
Bokonon
alath
Hobbes
Jeni
PSI Teleport
Megan
Stray
Maccabeus
Vadon
dkw
Dagonee
Mr. Funny
Sara Sasse
signal (possibly INTP)
MidnightBlue
prolixshore
Stray
eslaine
Zeugma
EarlNMeyer-Flask
JLM
starLisa
airmanfour

ENTJ
Carrie
Allegra
peterh
firebird

Conclusion: Given that N's are rarer than S's as a whole, this forum is extremely biased towards N's.

I guess this shouldn't surpise anyone, though, given which types most likely prefer science fiction reading and going on to forums to post about religion and politics.

Looks like we also have lots of J's and lots of I's.
 

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Posted by cheiros do ender (Member # 8849) on :
 
I... N... F... J...
11.. 38.. 12.. 1...

Apparently only 2% of the population is this type, but it seems at least 10% of hatrack is.

Interesting.

Edit to add: Around 16% in fact.

Interesting.

[ July 18, 2006, 10:05 AM: Message edited by: cheiros do ender ]
 

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Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
 
Your Type is
ENTJ
Extroverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
11 25 1 33

I could take the test on successive days and be different types every time; I'm always on the border of being one or two different things.
 

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Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
 
Your Type is
INTP
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
67 38 38 11

--j_k
 

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Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
 
Ohh, same as I always get. I swear I took it in this thread, but I guess not

Your Type is
INTP

Introverted- 33
Intuitive- 25
Thinking- 1 (on certain tests I get a low Feeling instead)
Perceiving- 56
 

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Posted by cheiros do ender (Member # 8849) on :
 

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Conclusion: Given that N's are rarer than S's as a whole, this forum is extremely biased towards N's.

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Conclusion: Given that N's are rarer than S's as a whole, this forum is extremely biased towards N's.
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The Champion Idealists are abstract in thought and speech, cooperative in accomplishing their aims, and informative and expressive when relating with others. For Champions, nothing occurs which does not have some deep ethical significance, and this, coupled with their uncanny sense of the motivations of others, gives them a talent for seeing life as an exciting drama, pregnant with possibilities for both good and evil. This type is found in only about 3 percent of the general population, but they have great influence because of their extraordinary impact on others. Champions are inclined to go everywhere and look into everything that has to do with the advance of good and the retreat of evil in the world. They can't bear to miss out on what is going on around them; they must experience, first hand, all the significant social events that affect our lives. And then they are eager to relate the stories they've uncovered, hoping to disclose the "truth" of people and issues, and to advocate causes. This strong drive to unveil current events can make them tireless in conversing with others, like fountains that bubble and splash, spilling over their own words to get it all out.


Champions consider intense emotional experiences as being vital to a full life, although they can never quite shake the feeling that a part of themselves is split off, uninvolved in the experience. Thus, while they strive for emotional congruency, they often see themselves in some danger of losing touch with their real feelings, which Champions possess in a wide range and variety. In the same vein, Champions strive toward a kind of spontaneous personal authenticity, and this intention always to "be themselves" is usually communicated nonverbally to others, who find it quite attractive. All too often, however, Champions fall short in their efforts to be authentic, and they tend to heap coals of fire on themselves, berating themselves for the slightest self-conscious role-playing.

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General: ENFPs are both "idea"-people and "people"-people, who see everyone and everything as part of an often bizarre cosmic whole. They want to both help (at least, their own definition of "help") and be liked and admired by other people, on bo th an individual and a humanitarian level. They are interested in new ideas on principle, but ultimately discard most of them for one reason or another.


Social/Personal Relationships: ENFPs have a great deal of zany charm, which can ingratiate them to the more stodgy types in spite of their unconventionality. They are outgoing, fun, and genuinely like people. As SOs/mates they are warm, affectionate (l ots of PDA), and disconcertingly spontaneous. However, attention span in relationships can be short; ENFPs are easily intrigued and distracted by new friends and acquaintances, forgetting about the older ones for long stretches at a time. Less mature ENFPs may need to feel they are the center of attention all the time, to reassure them that everyone thinks they're a wonderful and fascinating person.


ENFPs often have strong, if unconvential, convictions on various issues related to their Cosmic View. They usually try to use their social skills and contacts to persuade people gently of the rightness of these views; his sometimes results in their negle cting their nearest and dearest while flitting around trying to save the world.
Work Environment: ENFPs are pleasant, easygoing, and usually fun to work with. They come up with great ideas, and are a major asset in brainstorming sessions. Followthrough tends to be a problem, however; they tend to get bored quickly, especially if a newer, more interesting project comes along. They also tend to be procrastinators, both about meeting hard deadlines and about performing any small, uninteresting tasks that they've been assigned. ENFPs are at their most useful when working in a group w ith a J or two to take up the slack.


ENFPs hate bureaucracy, both in principle and in practice; they will always make a point of launching one of their crusades against some aspect of it.

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ENFPs are friendly folks. Most are really enjoyable people. Some of the most soft-hearted people are ENFPs.


ENFPs have what some call a "silly switch." They can be intellectual, serious, all business for a while, but whenever they get the chance, they flip that switch and become CAPTAIN WILDCHILD, the scourge of the swimming pool, ticklers par excellence. Som etimes they may even appear intoxicated when the "switch" is flipped.


One study has shown that ENFPs are significantly overrepresented in psychodrama. Most have a natural propensity for role-playing and acting.


ENFPs like to tell funny stories, especially about their friends. This penchant may be why many are attracted to journalism. I kid one of my ENFP friends that if I want the sixth fleet to know something, I'll just tell him.


ENFPs are global learners. Close enough is satisfactory to the ENFP, which may unnerve more precise thinking types, especially with such things as piano practice ("three quarter notes or four ... what's the difference?") Amazingly, some ENFPs are adept at exacting disciplines such as mathematics.


Friends are what life is about to ENFPs, moreso even than the other NFs. They hold up their end of the relationship, sometimes being victimized by less caring individuals. ENFPs are energized by being around people. Some have real difficulty being alone , especially on a regular basis.


One ENFP colleague, a social worker, had such tremendous interpersonal skills that she put her interviewers at ease during her own job interview. She had the ability to make strangers feel like old friends.


ENFPs sometimes can be blindsided by their secondary Feeling function. Hasty decisions based on deeply felt values may boil over with unpredictable results. More than one ENFP has abruptly quit a job in such a moment.

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Extraverted iNtuition


The physical world, both geos and kosmos, is the ENFP's primary source of information. Rather than sensing things as they are, dominant intuition is sensitive to things as they might be. These extraverted intuitives are most adept with patterns and connections. Their natural inclination is toward relationships, especially among people or living things.


Intuition leans heavily on feeling for meaning and focus. Its best patterns reflect the interesting points of people, giving rise to caricatures of manner, speech and expression.


Introverted Feeling


Auxiliary feeling is nonverbally implied more often than it is openly expressed. When expressed, this logic has an aura of romance and purity that may seem out of place in this flawed, imperfect world. In its own defense, feeling judgement frequently and fleetly gives way to humor. ENFPs who publicize their feelings too often may put off some of the crowd of friends they naturally attract.


Extraverted Thinking


Thinking, the process which runs to impersonal conclusions, holds the extraverted tertiary position. Used on an occasional basis, ENFPs may benefit greatly from this ability. Less mature and lacking the polish of higher order functions, Thinking is not well suited to be used as a prominent function. As with other FP types, the ENFP unwary of Thinking's limitations may find themselves most positively mistaken.


Introverted Sensing


Sensing, the least discernible ENFP function, resides in the inner world where reality is reduced to symbols and icons--ideas representing essences of external realities. Under the influence of the ever-present intuition, the ENFP's sensory perceptions are in danger of being replaced by hypothetical data consistent with pattern and paradigm. When it is protected and nourished, introverted sensing provides information about the fixed. From such firm anchoring ENFPs are best equipped to launch into thousands of plausibilities and curiosities yet to be imagined.


Perhaps the combination of introverted Feeling and childlike introverted Sensing is responsible for the silent pull of ENFPs to the wishes of parents, authority figures and friends. Or perhaps it's the predominance of indecisive intuition in combination with the ambiguity of secondary Fi and tertiary Te that induces these kind souls to capitulate even life-affecting decisions. Whatever the dynamic, ENFPs are strongly influenced by the opinions of their friends.


Famous ENFPs:


Franz Joseph Haydn
Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain)
Will Rogers
Buster Keaton
Theodor "Dr." Seuss Geisel (The Cat in the Hat)
Mickey Rooney
James Dobson ("Focus on the Family")
Andy Rooney
Carol Burnett
Paul Harvey
Elizabeth Montgomery (Bewitched)
Bill Cosby (Ghost Dad)
Dom Delouise, actor
Dave Thomas, owner of Wendy's hamburger chain
Lewis Grizzard, newspaper columnist
I. King Jordan, president of Gallaudet University
Martin Short, actor-comedian
Meg Ryan, actor (When Harry Met Sally)
Robin Williams, actor, comedian (Dead Poet's Society, Mrs. Doubtfire)
Sandra Bullock, actor (Speed, While You Were Sleeping)
Robert Downey (Heart and Souls)
Alicia Silverstone (Clueless)
Sinbad
Andy Kaufman
Regis Philbin
 
Fictional:
Dr. Doug Ross (ER)
Balkie (Perfect Strangers)
Ariel (The Little Mermaid)
The Fr

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Your Type is
INTP
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
33 50 1 44

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I understand my results pretty much and I think that they're very accurate for me. I'm not suprised that my thinking/feeling is so closem though I think I am a bit more defined as a Thinker than a 1.
 

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Posted by Mr.Funny (Member # 4467) on :
 
I took it again. I'm *still* an INTJ. Whee.

Has anyone taken it multiple times and shifted personality significantly? Such as a moderately strong category switching to the other end of the spectrum?
 

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Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Last time, ISFJ. (Although on the list on the last page, I somehow got mislabeled.) This time, INFJ.

Both times, I think the whole thing is kinda silly and arbitrary.
 

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Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
ENFP.

I took this test before for some career thing (okay, not this exact test, but a more detailed one), and it gave me ENFP, but I think the detailed thing said that the F and P were low enough numbers that it could go either way.

-pH
 

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Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
I've taken it periodically since I was in college. Always INTJ.
 

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Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
(Oops! I hadn't realized until now that I posted in the old thread instead of the new one. Sorry!)
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
I came out as a Teacher...but I accidently closed the page before I copied it.


Oh well....
 

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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
ENFP this time.

Champions are rather rare, say three or four percent of the population, but even more than the others they consider intense emotional experiences as being vital to a full life. Champions have a wide range and variety of emotions, and a great passion for novelty. They see life as an exciting drama, pregnant with possibilities for both good and evil, and they want to experience all the meaningful events and fascinating people in the world. The most outgoing of the Idealists, Champions often can't wait to tell others of their extraordinary experiences. Champions can be tireless in talking with others, like fountains that bubble and splash, spilling over their own words to get it all out. And usually this is not simple storytelling; Champions often speak (or write) in the hope of revealing some truth about human experience, or of motivating others with their powerful convictions. Their strong drive to speak out on issues and events, along with their boundless enthusiasm and natural talent with language, makes them the most vivacious and inspiring of all the types.

Fiercely individualistic, Champions strive toward a kind of personal authenticity, and this intention always to be themselves is usually quite attractive to others. At the same time, Champions have outstanding intuitive powers and can tell what is going on inside of others, reading hidden emotions and giving special significance to words or actions. In fact, Champions are constantly scanning the social environment, and no intriguing character or silent motive is likely to escape their attention. Far more than the other Idealists, Champions are keen and probing observers of the people around them, and are capable of intense concentration on another individual. Their attention is rarely passive or casual. On the contrary, Champions tend to be extra sensitive and alert, always ready for emergencies, always on the lookout for what's possible.

Champions are good with people and usually have a wide range of personal relationships. They are warm and full of energy with their friends. They are likable and at ease with colleagues, and handle their employees or students with great skill. They are good in public and on the telephone, and are so spontaneous and dramatic that others love to be in their company. Champions are positive, exuberant people, and often their confidence in the goodness of life and of human nature makes good things happen.
 

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Posted by Emreecheek (Member # 12082) on :
 
I know the guy that interpreted my results said ENFP's were the most fun type.

He also said that college students most often self-select into ENFP, as opposed to other personality types.

I have a question for the other ENTP/ENFP's though...

I've had people disbelieve me being an ENFP because I'm too clinical and sarcastic. And I've had others disbelieve me being an ENTP because I'm to warm and nice. Does this happen to you often?

Other personalities are, of course, welcome to answer as well.
 

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Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Your Type is
INFP
Introverted Intuitive Feeling Perceiving
22 38 25 22


Healers present a calm and serene face to the world, and can seem shy, even distant around others. But inside they're anything but serene, having a capacity for personal caring rarely found in the other types. Healers care deeply about the inner life of a few special persons, or about a favorite cause in the world at large. And their great passion is to heal the conflicts that trouble individuals, or that divide groups, and thus to bring wholeness, or health, to themselves, their loved ones, and their community.

Healers have a profound sense of idealism that comes from a strong personal sense of right and wrong. They conceive of the world as an ethical, honorable place, full of wondrous possibilities and potential goods. In fact, to understand Healers, we must understand that their deep commitment to the positive and the good is almost boundless and selfless, inspiring them to make extraordinary sacrifices for someone or something they believe in. Set off from the rest of humanity by their privacy and scarcity, Healers can often feel even more isolated in the purity of their idealism.

Video Profile of an Idealist Also, Healers might well feel a sense of separation because of their often misunderstood childhood. Healers live a fantasy-filled childhood-they are the prince or princess of fairy tales-an attitude which, sadly, is frowned upon, or even punished, by many parents. With parents who want them to get their head out of the clouds, Healers begin to believe they are bad to be so fanciful, so dreamy, and can come to see themselves as ugly ducklings. In truth, they are quite OK just as they are, only different from most others-swans reared in a family of ducks.

At work, Healers are adaptable, welcome new ideas and new information, are patient with complicated situations, but impatient with routine details. Healers are keenly aware of people and their feelings, and relate well with most others. Because of their deep-seated reserve, however, they can work quite happily alone. When making decisions, Healers follow their heart not their head, which means they can make errors of fact, but seldom of feeling. They have a natural interest in scholarly activities and demonstrate, like the other Idealists, a remarkable facility with language. They have a gift for interpreting stories, as well as for creating them, and thus often write in lyric, poetic fashion. Frequently they hear a call to go forth into the world and help others, a call they seem ready to answer, even if they must sacrifice their own comfort.
 

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Posted by Mr. Y (Member # 11590) on :
 
Your type is
ISTJ
Introverted Sensing Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
89 38 38 11

I vaguely recall taking this test once before, but I don't know whether the outcome was the same at that time.
 

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Posted by Yebor1 (Member # 1380) on :
 
ISTJ


on three different personality test


id say thats definative
 

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Posted by Zevlag (Member # 1405) on :
 
Your Type is
INTJ
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
56 25 75 44

I thought I had done this in the old thread, but I couldnt find it, so I did it again.
 

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Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
I'm INTJ, slightly expressed in the first three and strongly in the J (78%).

p.s. But this is the week of the Caylee Anthony verdict and the Leiby Kletzky murder.

[ July 14, 2011, 11:45 PM: Message edited by: pooka ]
 

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Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
 

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Originally posted by Emreecheek:


I have a question for the other ENTP/ENFP's though...

I've had people disbelieve me being an ENFP because I'm too clinical and sarcastic. And I've had others disbelieve me being an ENTP because I'm to warm and nice.

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