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Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
I did first check snopes, and LSD Flashbacks are not listed there. NIDA/NIH info on LSD

The thought I was having, looking at myself in the mirror this morning, is whether more "benign" mood states could be preserved in fat cells.

Edit: Got kicked of my computer

So I'm wondering if the biochemical milieau of our organism is stored into fat cells as they are gained, to be released when those fat cells are emptied. Since it is not uncommon for fat to be gained during major depressions.

I've been losing weight gradually for the last 5 months, and I feel like crap. I exercise 3 times a week. I sleep pretty well, though I am often a little short.

If I could draw a line straight back to the last time I was this weight or effectively this weight, it would intersect with my last postpartum depression, also regaining weight after Body for life. Heck, maybe I'm releasing fat stored during early adolescence. Anyway, not happy times any of them.

Then there is the simpler explanation, that I haven't adjusted yet to life without diet induced seratonin and endorphin boosts.

[ September 10, 2004, 02:44 PM: Message edited by: pooka ]
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
That's an interesting thought, pooka.

::muses::
 
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
 
Sorry Pook, I'm not sure I follow - what were you feeling this morning that made you wonder along those lines.

-Trevor
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
I was looking in the mirror and thinking I was looking relatively svelt, and also wondering why I've been feeling blue. I guess there was also that thread about male PMS where I was talking about the hormonal activity of fat.

I guess maybe that is a focus for my future education- Studying fat as a hormonally active tissue.
 
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
 
Well - is there any other reason you might feel blue? The time of year? Some event in your life?

I seem to recall something about exercise and weight loss affecting emotions and moods, but I can't remember, so I'll do some digging.

-Trevor
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
I thought exercise was supposed to make you feel better -- you know, release all those feel-goody chemicals in your body.

That's why whenever I used to get really really angry I would go out and run -- because I couldn't stay angry during physical exercise for very long...

FG
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
Exercise is supposed to be as effective as Prozac in lifting mood, without bad side effects and providing good ones.

But the sleep deficit is something else.

I struggle with chronic financial stresses that have me between a rock and a hard place. I have pretty serious learned helplessness issues. That kind of goes with the rock and hard place thing.

Anyway, I've been doing a lot of cognitive/spiritual work on my depression, but I still just feel physiologically depressed.
 
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
It could be a vitamin deficiency, maybe... Often when our metabolisms change to new diets and exercise, we need to make sure the new demands are being satisfied.

-Bok
 
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
 
Financial stress - oh yeah, been there, doing that.

Driving down and saying hi to Ivan is starting to sound appealing. [Big Grin]

And Farm - yes, that's true. Everything I've read suggests if not outright states exercise helps promote feeling good, if only for the endorphin release.

-Trevor
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
I take a general multi vitamin, but not as consistently as I could. Maybe I could probably use some Essential Fatty Acids. I'd prefer to get them from salmon.

Ivan... ha, I just got it. [No No]

[ September 10, 2004, 03:20 PM: Message edited by: pooka ]
 
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
 
That's a really interesting theory, Pooka. My Mom is always positing thoughts on what it means when scriptures say that our thoughts are recorded on our bones and sinews. I wonder how much our physical body and even our genome is affected by experience.

I shall ponder this some more.
 
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
 
Farmgirl, who's feeling me? <g>

Goody
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
I don't subscribe to the extreme cellular memory school. There are some mood states tied to accupuncture meridians, and that's a different ball of wax. Many (western) therapists take it too far into psychic reading via massage therapy. That just weirds me out.

I'm talking about something that would be measurable using laboratory techniques. Whether different layers of fat have detectably different biochemistry. If it's not detectable, it remains in the realm of metaphysics.

P.S. I would add that I think we are intended to gain and lose about 20% of our body weight each year, like bears do. Whether by evolution or by God. Climate control and mass food distribution are very recent developments. So I think it was intended that we should lose pretty much all our fat cyclically. Modern advances have defeated that.

[ September 11, 2004, 12:17 AM: Message edited by: pooka ]
 


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