this is incredible. I love it.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Then you folks might also enjoy 8-bit theatre Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
"Where are the cheetos??"
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
This is a link to a film that puts a classic bit from the Dead Alewives (a bit that's nearly twenty years old, in fact) into the mouths of the 8-bit Theater characters -- themselves taken from the old Final Fantasy games. The same sound file was used in recent memory in a Flash ad for the game "Summoner," and featured the characters from THAT game.
Posted by Eduardo_Sauron (Member # 5827) on :
*Relieved it's not a thread about on...well...just relieved it's not a serious thread
Very funny indeed. Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
The Dead Alewives did a sequel to that bit that may be even funnier in places. Although it goes on a little long.
Posted by Eduardo_Sauron (Member # 5827) on :
Bob, do you have a link for us?
Posted by unicornwhisperer (Member # 294) on :
Taking it's sweet time to load... (sigh) Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Every time this comes up, Tom just has to pop in and has to give us the 411 on the Alewives. Every, stinking, time!
In fact, I looked for his post. I knew he couldn't resist it. He is the resident know-it-all when it comes to all things RPG.
[ September 10, 2004, 08:20 AM: Message edited by: Primal Curve ]
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
He also lives in WI, where the Alewives were based, I believe.
Posted by Jess N (Member # 6744) on :
watch the twirling die...watch the twirling die...does this damn thing ever load?
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
Look at the top right corner. I didn't notice when it did finally load, becuase it doesn't automatically start.
Question -- when was the last time any of you guys heard anybody seriously denouncing RPGs as evil? I heard it a fair amount in the early '90s in Oklahoma, but I haven't heard it for a long time.
edit: and Jack Chick doesn't count.
[ September 10, 2004, 11:29 AM: Message edited by: mr_porteiro_head ]
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
Do you mean personally?
Posted by Jess N (Member # 6744) on :
Actually...my daughter is dealing with this issue at school. She reads fantasy novels that some of her classmates have prejudged to have a "non-Christian" theme. She also plays RPGs and has been harrassed by the same creatures about them being evil. It's not dead, just settling in different places. I was really hoping not to have to deal with it at all,but...
Posted by dabbler (Member # 6443) on :
here is a bit of history on it.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I hear lots of people mocking those that thing fantasy is evil, but I don't hear anybody actually believing that anymore. I was just wondering if it is a thing of the past, or if I just don't deal with people that would say that to my face.
Posted by dabbler (Member # 6443) on :
quote:Mail addresses of anti-RPG Christian groups:
There are a few Evangelical /Fundamentalist Christian groups in the United States which still oppose fantasy role-playing games. See:
American Family Association, PO Drawer 2440, Tupelo MS 38803
Focus on the Family, Colorado Springs CO, 80995.
NCTV, 144 East End Ave, New York NY, 10128
Pro Family Forum, PO Box 8907, Ft. Worth TX, 76124
Teen Suicide Prevention Task Force, 2321 SE 8th St, Grand Prarie TX, 75051
The 700 Club/CBN Virginia Beach VA, 23463
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
*snort* We're fundamentalist Christian and we play RPG's all the time (as a family) and love it. I have never heard it denounced from the pulpit.
It's one of those "all things in moderation" things, ya know. I suppose there are people who can get obsessed with them and all that, but I think that is a problem with the person, not the game.
I mean - how can you shun RPG and not shun all fiction? Most people can easily mentally separate reality from fiction, so it is just a game...
Farmgirl
Posted by Jess N (Member # 6744) on :
Farmgirl:
I agree with you completely. I worry about how far some Christians take this anti-imagination belief (and basically that is what it is). One of the girls in my daughter's class didn't get to go see Shrek last year (private end of school year party) because her parents won't let her watch that sort of thing.
We are a Christian family and we game too. It's good for their imaginations. God imagined us, why wouldn't He want us to imagine too?
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
"I mean - how can you shun RPG and not shun all fiction?"
While some people do indeed shun all fiction, the simple answer for many fundamentalists seems to be: fiction with angels = good; fiction with elves = bad.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I'll agree that FRP games can be done in a dark way that can cause evil and harm. But so can exercising, or eating, washing your hands, etc.
For the most part, the biggest evil present in RPGs is that they are a huge waste of time. (this comes from someone currently playing in Twinky's PBEM D&D game)
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Tom -- I'd go further and say that for those people, any magic used in fiction is interpreted as witchcraft, and any fantasy creature is interpreted as a demon/devil.
Posted by Jess N (Member # 6744) on :
Things aren't evil until we, as humans, add the evil. I've met evil RPGers (my ex--haha) but I've never encountered a game that was inately evil. Also, for people to be led to other, nasty things through the game, they've already got to have other problems (deep problems) going in.
Evil can be found everywhere---even inside the church. I think sometimes the real evil is when people prejudge things and push people to live within their view of what God wants.
[ September 10, 2004, 11:56 AM: Message edited by: Jess N ]
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
quote: fiction with angels = good; fiction with elves = bad.
FG
Posted by Jess N (Member # 6744) on :
Does that mean that all elves go to hell...dang...I'm already in trouble. <Jess hides her pointy ears>
So does that include Vulcan's too?
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Vulcans -- definitely. In fact, the original idea for Spock was that he would be half-martian, have red skin, yellow eyes, and pointy ears. He was supposed to look like a devil.
And the person that Roddenberry offered that part to was DeForrest Kelly (Bones). Kelly wanted no part of being a devil-martian.
Posted by Jess N (Member # 6744) on :
I had forgotten that story! Deforrest Kelley in red skin and pointy ears! What a hoot!
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