I just wanted to address the whole of Hatrack and say, *takes deep breath* I don't want to go, I don't want to learn, I don't want to get up before the sun rises, and I don't want to put up with people my own age who don't have a single once of intelligence in them.
I liked summer, I spent a month working in New Mexico on a scout ranch, a month just hanging out with friends and working my normal jobs and almost a month escapading around the UK.
Why do older people insist I further my education when I've already found a trade that I love and am more than capable of doing. If I must continue to learn I'd rather do it through an internship of some kind, that way at least I wouldn't get stuck in Biology with my little sister (I'm not joking, my freshman sister is in my bio class.)
Ok, I'm done now.
Ok, now I'm really done, honest.
[ August 24, 2004, 03:54 PM: Message edited by: J T Stryker ]
Posted by MidnightBlue (Member # 6146) on :
Posted by Khal Drogo (Member # 6786) on :
I feel your pain.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
quote: when I've already found a trade that I love and am more than capable of doing
Which trade is this?
FG
Posted by JaimeBenlevy (Member # 6222) on :
Haha you started school...wait a second... Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
I'm a theatrical Rigger. My job consists of climbing into the rafters of a given venue and setting anchor points for all the rigging. I then hang the rigging, and then hang the gear (lights, sound clusters, scenery, etc....)
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
J.T. Stryker, drug smuggler
"If my rectum doesn't get your drugs where they need to go, you get your money back, guaranteed...or my name isn't J.T. Stryker!"
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
Oh, darn. He posted before I did. That screws up the funny. Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Could you actually live alone on the money you made if you were working full time, and is full time work available in that profession? (Theatrical Rigging... not drug smuggling)
AJ
[ August 24, 2004, 04:26 PM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
Man, oh man, do I love the name J.T. Stryker! It's like it's just begging for an exclamation point after it! Plus, it makes any profession sound really cool!
J.T. Stryker, detective! J.T. Stryker, gadfly and man about town! J.T. Stryker, assassin for hire!
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
Sorry. Getting carried away here. Sorry, J.T.. (I really do love that name. )
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
"I don't want to go, I don't want to learn, I don't want to get up before the sun rises, and I don't want to put up with people my own age who don't have a single once of intelligence in them."
I don't want to go, I don't want to teach, I don't want to get up before the sun rises, and I don't want to put up with people one-fourth my age...
I want to be independently wealthy, darn it. Why did trust funds pass me by? Why, oh why?
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
The name is Stryker, J T Stryker, Blind Fool Extraordinaire.
AJ: Yes I can and am planning on making a living out of being a rigger. The pay is good I make 24.50 an hour as a part time hourly. I'm most likely going to go on the road as a roady when I get out of school. I know it's not the easiest way to make a living, but well, I was born and raise a theatre bum, it's something I know, and something I love. many performers say their is no feeling like being on stage, I maintain building it is better.
Hey Elizabeth, If you (the teacher) don't show up to classes, neither will we (the students).
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
JT,
Deal!
(Kidding) I love teaching, but I have always taught the off-the-beaten-track kids. This year, I am jumping into the "mainstream," and I am frightened of the children who will do their homework.
By the way, I know someone who makes a bundle doing theater lighting. What a neat thing to do!
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
Don't worry, us mainstream kids are just more creative about getting out of home work, and we are also rather good at counting points and figuring out the bare minimum required for a B.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Phew!
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
I LIKE going to school.
I am very sick.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
You see, Annie, you are a frightening woman! When YOU were ten, I bet you were really scary.
Seriously, though, it will be first time I have taught kids who really enjoy learning, and don't fight it every step of the way. (and I realize I will still have my share of those who don't)Everyone tells me I will love it, but Ireally am scared! Sounds silly, but it is true.
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
Annie, your not sick, just perverted. Posted by Highway to Hellen (Member # 6802) on :
I don't like school either,but without it I wouldn't be able to sit in the back of the class room and giggle at my history teacher who looks like Mr.Smee and talks like Forest Gump. Oh the simple pleasures in life... Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
so your scared to have students who fear the "Maybe I should contact your parents" threat? WOW! What subjects will you teach?
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
I'm glad to be starting class again tomorrow. I've done most of my reading already, and it's still fun, even when it's dry stuff about jurisdictional elements of federal crimes.
This bodes well for me.
Dagonee
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
I have to read The Invisible Man by 8am tomorrow, I don't think it's going to happen Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
JT, The students I have taught are immune to that threat. The standard response is: "Good luck trying to get them." (They are screeners from way back)
I will be teaching fifth grade math and reading. (middle school setting)
Edit: My one ace in the hole is that my sense of humor never really progressed past fifth grade.
[ August 24, 2004, 06:28 PM: Message edited by: Elizabeth ]
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
read it during third period and lunch, oh and go to A lunch, your friends wiil be there.
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
Well the reading class could be fun, I wouldn't hold my breath on the math class though.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I like teaching math. I love it, in fact, though I hated it in high school with a passion.
Funny, though I was an English major, English is the subject I least want to teach.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I'm not a teacher, but last school year I did cadet teaching, and I realized that math is the most fun to teach (first graders, so a concept I actually like, counting). But I hate math generally, so I think that must be a normal thing.
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
I'll arrive at school in 11 hours. Posted by Eduardo_Sauron (Member # 5827) on :
Hey, J.T., I bet you'd luuuuv to study where I teach. Never a dull moment. Posted by IvyGirl (Member # 6252) on :
Hey, I started school a week ago! The day after we got back from KamaCon, so you're lucky! Although I do like most of my classes, however boring they may be. And, of course, there's always tennis practice to look forward to.........it's about the only thing I really look forward to. Oh, and wish me luck on my tennis meet on Thursday! Varsity doubles, whoo-hoo!
Ivygirl
Posted by Anthro (Member # 6087) on :
Whihc scout ranch were you at?
Posted by Stan the man (Member # 6249) on :
Where did you work Stryker? I know the name of the ranch. I was wondering what ya did. I worked at the mess hall in 1998 if you had a come back question.
edit to add: Anthro: 99.9% chance it was Philmont Scout Ranch. It is the best one to go to.
[ August 24, 2004, 10:52 PM: Message edited by: Stan the man ]
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
Luck Ivy girl
@ Stryker
Posted by Little_Doctor (Member # 6635) on :
I stil have a long two weeks until school starts. Is 10th grade anything special, or is another sleeper year?
Posted by Numb (Member # 6748) on :
I'm starting High School in a little less than two weeks. Where I'm excited to have the added independence that comes with it, I'm also extremely unready to have the relaxation of summer gone. The thing I'm going to miss the most though, is of course the sleep.
Posted by Allegra (Member # 6773) on :
At least Invisible Man is shorter then Anna K. I have about 700 pages to read in the next 6.5 hours. Somehow I don't think I will get done. I am excited about school though. At least about orchestra.
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
School... I really can't remember doing anything but school or internship these last two years. During my first year in Computer Science I was able to go home for Christmas and Easter, but then... Half a month to look for an internship, one month and a half of actual internship work, 3 weeks of break - I just went home and crashed - then another month of internship. The day after I finished it I was back in school for what turned out to be the hardest year ever. I still went home for Christmas... Not for Easter though, I had my final exams one week after the holiday so I thought I'd stay here and study. After the finals I spent almost a month looking for another internship, and now here I am, with three more days of work. And guess what ?! Next week I'll go to Montreal and start school on the 7th of September. I really want out of school.......
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
*cough*
I mean... Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
I was an Instructor In the Junior Leadership taining Program at Philmont, hopefully I'll be a ranger next year, thats more fun.
Posted by Stan the man (Member # 6249) on :
No you don't Stryker. Their days off stink, if you get them at all. It does have its perks though. So I guess ya should give it a shot. Bio class....I met my best friend in that class. Was never in any classes with my sister though. She did get annoyed at all the "Are you Nathan's sister?" comments. And some of those came from the teachers. Oh well, my buddy Chris was in my bio class and the teacher looked around the classroom on the first day and started pointing out people of which he taught their parents. Yeah, this guy was old.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
A) I know a couple of kids who were big into Philmont. We mocked them mercilessly
B) I'm looking forward to class starting up again. I miss a structured day. Sure, I go to work, but it's ridiculously flexible - where else can I come in somewhere between the hours of 8:00 and 10:30 am? It's almost too flexible. With class, though, you have to be there. Especially with foreign language classes (I'm only taking three this fall...). I'm excited for all of my classes, as well. Greek, Latin, German, Ballroom Dance, and "Troy: Myth and Reality." What could be better?
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Three languages, Carrie! I'm impressed!
Farmgirl
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
<---- starts university on the fifth...
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
I've always taken at least 16 credits a semester. This semester, being my last, I have two classes and two thesis papers.
Two classes! I don't know what to do with myself.
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
Today was the worst day of my life. I arrived bright and early, 7am, in order to show my little sister who is now a freshman where her classes are. Upon finishing I headed towards the SOS (Sounds Of South) to talk to Miss Witten about when She needed me to start helping out with their fall musical. I went and talked to her, but I was getting some weird vibes from the kids in SOS. I found out at in my first period, Chemistry, that I'm "the scum of the universe". You see last year at the end of the year I had a fling with one off the SOSers (the prom girl). SOS has been having rehearsals for about a month now and she has been telling her side of the story, which is even less flattering than the truth, and now has started a SOS boycott of me. I enjoyed working with that group, there's a lot of talent, and laughs around those people. Not to mention the fact that they spill over into the only other school group I can still claim to be part of, Theatre South. I mean I still have friends at south, but well..... ok, here's an example. I'm at lunch, I just got out of line and I go to sit down with my normal group, some of which are close friends. When I sit at the table, I was informed by a member of SOS that I'm "not invited to sit" with them. My friends stayed an I ended up eating lunch by myself in the middle of the cafeteria at the only empty table left. The best part of this whole situation is, the fact that if I quite working with SOS, Miss witten, who I enjoy working for, will be left high and dry, and feel like she's done something. I really can't do that to her, I mean sometimes she's unreasonable and I wish she'd die, but she's always so nice, and acts genuinely concerned when I appear to be tired and over-worked. I can't believe some of the SOSers would do this, I mean some of them are the nicest sweetest people I know, true those are the one that just aren't talking to me, instead of flat out assaulting me. Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
This sucks, J.T.
Do you think it will burn itself out over a few weeks and maybe they will get tired of their own attitudes? I know in some schools things like this can be fleeting....
FG
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
I hope so Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
Sucks to be you. I hope your day gets better remember, as we mexicans say, "no hay mal que por bien no venga", or theres no evil that doesn't come from some good". or theres also that one that says that bad times have a good face, or "Al mal tiempo buena cara".
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
(((stryker))) I'm so glad I'm out of that place, but I admit some of the people are very nice and some... IM me if you wanna talk about it.
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
I am nice right? I was trying to give some encouraging honest advice!!
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
Don't you have lunch with orchestra anymore? Because if they're not sticking with you I'll kick their butts.
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
Alt: you are very nice and the good looking ones are always the worst.
Blacwolve: I'll let you know tomorrow, today was wednesday, so they had c lunch.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
orchestra kids liked you monday night. If they get rid of you now, I'll help kick their butts, there shouldn't be many SoS people at their table, I think the ones we had graduated.
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
((((((((Stryker))))))))))
Being an ex-SOSer myself, I feel it my right to say that there are quite a number of overinflated egos that bounce around the choir room... don't get me wrong, I had some of the greatest experiences of my life in SOS, but some people can be real jerks in there. I'm so sorry you have to be at the fuzzy end in this case, I know that's not fun.
I haven't talked to Rainelle in a while, so I don't know exactly what she's been telling people, but either way, it's human nature to embellish a story to make your point sound more valid. Everyone does it... I'm sure she's probably making you out to be more "guilty" (for lack of a better word) than you are, but then it's not entirely her fault... you've done it when you've talked about her, I've done it when I've talked about certain people, there's no real way to avoid it, without being superhuman. So (((((((((Stryker)))))))))))) I'm sorry your day was rough, I apologize on behalf of SOS, but I hope you don't get too upset, and you can sort of understand where she's coming from... just so that it will help you be less miserable.
I'm not "taking her side" or anything, I'm just trying to make the situation a little clearer. I know that's exactly what I needed last time something like this happened to me, so I thought I'd just chip in my two cents. If it's not helpful, feel free to ignore this post.
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
To quote her, "He's the scum of the universe and I can't believe I was stupid enough to let him take advantage of me." Embellishment is an understatement, she's been telling the story this way all summer.
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Are you quoting her, or are you quoting what people told you she said?
Stryker, please don't get me wrong, I'm disgusted with SOS for all of this, I'm really not antagonizing you here... I just want to get the facts straight (though I should drop it, it's really none of my business, but I feel like it is, since I'm part of the SOS family). I don't think you're in the wrong here at all. I mean, you were at the beginning, when the actual thing happened, but come on, everyone's over that now, everyone makes mistakes... the important thing (at the risk of sounding like my mother) is to learn from them.
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
Wait a second, J T, you have some sort of caste system at your school?
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Don't most schools have an unoffical caste system? I've never heard of one that didn't though it becomes different in college.
AJ
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
My old high school didn't...it was totally cool. We geeks ran the place. When I moved to AZ, though, I was amazed at how caste-y and clique-y high schools could be.
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
Wait a tic, isn't she right?
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
Raia, I'm quoting what numerous people said she said (they all used the same wording, so I can only believe it's true).
And Yes my school has an unofficial caste system that until now, I'd been able to transcend. BHSS has had a 131 years worth of tradition building that it is proud of, and numerous "hazing" acts that have had principle after principle resign and leave town.
SOS is one of the best Show choirs in the nation, and once your in, your in for life. I did a lot of their tech work, along with Blacwolve and Kyrie, we weren't part of that family as Raia called it, but we were allowed to act as if we were due to our skills. I'm hoping this thing will blow over soon, but if it doesn't, I think SOS is going to be high and dry in the tech department, cause I can't work for people who think their better than me, especially when I don't need the work.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
That school does have a caste system and it is fairly evident. I did know about hazing situations but I wasn't sure that principals had left. Mr. Riggle who was the principal before the one they have now is now the principal at the school in northern illinois that got national attention for it's hazing situation.
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
I don't know why I'm getting into this, but my two cents are as follows:
If you leave, you will be doing what she wants, not what you want. Consider, if she weren't in the picture, wouldn't you stay in SOS? Sure.
I think the thing you have to do is believe in yourself. You know your own worth. You know who you are. If you're really scum of the universe, then this will come out. If not, people will, over time, see that she is uttering complete BS. In fact, if she keeps it up in the face of you being nice, then the tide will turn against her in all likelihood.
The best thing to do is not to say anything about it. Or at least to say as little as possible if questioned directly. Something to the effect of "I understand why she's upset. I wish there were something I could do about it, but there isn't. I hope we can move past this and be friends." Now, whether you want to be friends or not doesn't matter. This is something that you will be expected to say as it shows character on your part. If you are quiet and still and don't make an ass of yourself in SOS, watch your 'P's and 'Q's, people will eventually gravitate over to you if she keeps on making an issue out of it, guaranteed. No one liks a whiner.
The fact of the matter is that you did screw up over prom and having people talk trash about you is part of the price that you pay. Sorry. There are probably other things going on here. I don't know you and I don't know her. I don't know if you're really made an effort to apologize to her or what. Not going to SOS may be your fear of confronting her and the prom situation talking. I don't know. But I do think that if you confront the whole situation by showing your high school who you really are in a calm manner and don't try to force the issue by talking smack about her, but just let things work out on their own by being yourself, I think it will help your social face in the high school much more than doing nothing.
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
I've got lunch at orcherstra. My school's orchestra that is. I play the violin and all band students hang out at our enormous room during break and lunch. We've got our own patio and kitchen with sink, bathroom and 2 microwave ovens. We're pretty happy students.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
The thing is SS, this is the girl that at least partially initiated the Prom incident. Breyer was the one that was hurt, and she's still friends with Styker (obviously) as are all of her friends but one.
And I really think Raia and Stryker should institute a policy of not talking to each other. Both of you know why.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Take Ms. Witten aside and explain that underlying tensions may prevent you from working with the SOS group.
And as much as it may absolutely bite, JT, you've learned a valuable lesson in the truth of "don't dip in the office pool."
I hope the tensions will settle down enough for you to join the company, but don't let it get you down. This too shall pass.
-Trevor
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
quote: I can't work for people who think their better than me, especially when I don't need the work.
First of all I basically agree with what Storm Saxon said. I can't argue with the "I don't need the work" part of the above quote, but wake up kid! You are ALWAYS going to have work for or with SOMEONE who thinks they are better than you. And guess what? While they may not be better than you, they just might be too. The question is not what they think of you, the question is whether you do your work dilligently, and can get along with them regardless. You just might learn something from them somewhere in the process.
Welcome to Real Life.
AJ
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
quote: The thing is SS, this is the girl that at least partially initiated the Prom incident. Breyer was the one that was hurt, and she's still friends with Styker (obviously) as are all of her friends but one.
Wait. The girl Stryker cheated with is talking bad about him in SOS?
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
Yep, the other one defended me till the day she graduated, and we still talk on almost a daily basis.
Thanks everyone for your advice, I think the worst part, the shock, has passed, I'll keep my head high and my tongue still.
Stryker
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I think I still defend you quite a bit, but no I have no problems with him now, and he has appolojized, all of the stuff going on right now is on the other girl's end.
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
Sorry I misunderstood. I think my advice still basically stands.
In fact, I really don't want to see you not go now. Do it for spite, lad!
[ August 26, 2004, 08:23 PM: Message edited by: Storm Saxon ]
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
lol, Spite sounds good to me.
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
quote: And I really think Raia and Stryker should institute a policy of not talking to each other. Both of you know why.
Um, since I was entirely on Stryker's side in this thread, I think that was slightly uncalled for. And I know you meant me as the "single person" who isn't friends with Stryker anymore... Stryker? Do you hate me? If so, I'm sorry I bothered you, I won't do it again. I don't hate you, if that's what you're wondering...
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
I don't hate you either Raia.
I don't hate Stryker either.
Or anyone else here. I'm just a big cloud of non-hate.
(Sorry, I felt like injecting a little group love. The fact I'm at work is probably upping my desire to act like a brat. A loving brat, but a brat nonetheless. Still, it feels good.)
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
Um, so you are friends with him? I'm sorry, I must have missed that revelation.
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
Hmmmm, I do believe Raia and I are on good terms again, I'm not real sure when this happened, but I'm glad it did.
imogen: Don't you just love how work acts like a drug and brings out the oddest moods. Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
*shrugs* Ok, if both of you are happy...
Would you prefer I edit or delete my posts on this thread?
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
None of the above Mamma K (((Blacwolve)))
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Nah, blacwolve, don't worry about it, it was a natural mistake to make. But yeah, Stryker, I don't hate you.
quote: I don't hate you either Raia.
Yay! I don't hate you either, imogen!! (((((imogen)))))
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
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