I participated in the shodan test of a friend on Tuesday. You can see a picture of me being slammed to the ground here.
That's it. I just thought it was a cool picture and I wanted to share.
Posted by Jess N (Member # 6744) on :
Very cool picture!
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Looks painful. Pretty cool, though.
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
Very cool!! I love aikido.
Dag - It's only painful if you don't do it right....
[ August 20, 2004, 03:55 PM: Message edited by: ludosti ]
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
It wasn't painful at all. That type of falling is something that I do really well.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Awesome. Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
Scanning through the different pics, I think it's fun to see techniques I know how to do. Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
I fall very well.
I land terribly.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
So you have the 9.81 down solid?
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
9.81? That's not Japanese! Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Um, don't they use the metric system over there?
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
Probably...
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Very cool Porter! I did Aikido for awhile, but I'm officially all Aikidoed out now. Hurt myself one too many times, and finally thought "hm--I'm not really enjoying this so much". I do have enormous respect for the martial art and those who practice it though.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Aikido is more throws and holds than hitting, correct? How is it different than judo?
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Some quick differences with Judo:
Judo is a sport. Aikido is not. To make it a safe sport, Professor Kano removed from Judo all of the techniques that could cause injury when done full force and full speed.
As a result, Aikdio has a lot of joint manipulations, arm bars, wrist locks, etc. that Judo doesn't have.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Cool. Joint manipulation is the quickest route to injury in many cases. Good for defense. Bad for athletic careers.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
A quick tidbit -- professor Kano was the first person to use colored belts to indicate skill level -- he just had white and black. Soon after, Gichin Funakoshi adopted the same thing for his Shotokan Karate that he started teaching in Japan. We get both the colored belts and the martial arts "gi" or outfit from Kano. In many ways, he is the father of modern martial arts.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Noemon -- this is getting freaky. I've got to find something I like that you don't, or visa-versa.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Isn't it? I think you're pretty much the LDS version of me!
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Hey, you guys are wearing hakama! I didn't know there was a martial art where they actually wear the hakama. Jes makes his own. Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Yeah -- we like to joke that when you do Aikido, you're man enough to wear a skirt.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
He's going to love these pictures.
Porter, you may have just started the one thread that will force my husband to join Hatrack. Let's see. We'll have to wait til he gets home.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
What does he make his own hakkama for?
BTW, a lot of the more traditional Japanese martial arts like iaido, kendo, kenjutsu, jojitsu, kyudo, etc. all wear hakama.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
I don't know...I think he just likes to. Plus he's really tall and he just assumed if he found some they wouldn't fit, like all his other skirts, I mean pants. Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
OK, let me re-phrase the question. Why does he wear them?
Oh, and I know a place that makes *very* good hakama to fit. They are pricey, thought.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Oh, he's a ninja every year for Halloween. Oh crap, that's a secret!
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
Wow, that's an awesome picture. You know, it's kind of a funny coincidence...I'm seriously thinking about joining the aikido club here at ASU. I'm a little nervous about it since I'm clumsy and out of shape, but I'm hoping that this will take care of both of those.
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
I've done a bit of Aikido between pregnancies. I joke that I better not start up again because I am not ready to get pregnant again! I always got pregnant right when I was ready to take a test. Well, just two tests, but I took both in early pregnancy. So my sensei was hyper-sensitive about how my test nages treated me. I thought he was being a bit silly.
Shigosei, if you start up, prepare for bloody knees! >.<
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
You have probably never met anybody that is naturally as clumbsy as I am. My friends always used to call me Kraemer after the Seinfeld character.
The Aikido hasn't gotten rid of that, but is has helped...
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Oh, and most people don't have knee problems like beverly did. I surely didn't.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
mmm Akido. I want to do kendo.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Porter, me too! Well, not the nickname part, but the uncoordinated part. I actually had to go to perceptual motor clinic when I was a kid because of it.
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
*Twighlight Zone theme plays*
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
My knees didn't bleed, but the tops of my feet did. Actually, there was a kind of cool thread about it. I'll have to go and see if it's still around.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Found it! It's the "Ouch--what should I do about these blisters" thread. I also bumped another thread that's just entitled "Ouch", which was about being clumsy. It would seem that a lot of us have less than perfect grace around here.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Dude, that's why we're here. The graceful people spend their time trying out for Broadway, and not on a geeky internet forum. Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Oh yeah, that's it! I knew there was a reason! Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Noemon -- we need to figure things out. Am I your evil twin, or are you mine?
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Well, your only difference is that one of you is LDS.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Well--I have a goatee. Do you have any facial hair? A goatee trups the clean shaven look, making me the evil twin. If you had a handlebar mustache, though that would definitely trump my goatee.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
And since LDS people generally seem to be some of the nicest individuals on the planet, that would suggest that--barring some unexpectedly lush facial hair--Porter is the good twin.
Celia would be so proud of me!
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Crap! I wanted to be the evil twin!
But yeah, if you have the goatee, then you get to be the evil one.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
That's it. I've been thinking about growing a beard for a while now.
I'm throwing down the gauntlet.
Give me a month.
[ August 20, 2004, 10:15 PM: Message edited by: mr_porteiro_head ]
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
Just scribble a mustache on your face with a black marker. That should do it.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Naw, that's only as dastardly as Snidely Whiplash. It barely qualifies as evil.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
It's a martial arts thread, so naturally I have to sound off:
Judo is a sport and is designed around a highly structured scenario involving "safe" grappling, wrestling and throws. Now, higher levels of Judo instruction will include potentially unsafe techniques, but the point is not to hurt your opponent.
Jujitsu is the "let's hurt someone by breaking joints" martial art. It was designed and practiced by samurai for use against armored foes.
Aikido is as much a philosophy as a martial art. It's more graceful and geared towards flowing motion and not the same fighting for position you see in Judo.
Aikido deals with a re-direction of force in a fashion as to deter an attacker without causing undue injury to the attacker.
Enjoy, Trevor
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
Sounds fun. I don't think I'd do well in it, though.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Depends on what you want, Muppet.
Are you looking for exercise? Self-defense?
Do you have any experience with martial arts?
Judo can be very physically intense and demanding - a lot of fun, but you are picking up people and throwing them around. And a lot of hands-on wrestling.
-Trevor
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
TMedina -- "Jujitsu" is a really generic term. Really, it can mean any Japanese martial art that does not use weapons. (Note that Karate is not Japanes, at least not originally).
Aikido really is a type of Jujitsu. Ueshiba Sensei (the founder of Aikido) split off from the style called Daito-Ryu Aiki Jujitsu. Ueshiba Sensei modified the art somewhat and added his own philisophy (very different from his extremely violent teacher Sokaku Takeda) and called it Aikido. But really, it's not that much different from Daito-Ryu Aiki Jujitsu. It's another form of Jujitsu.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
SarcasticMuppett -- there really isn't any Judo to speak of in Utah Valley. I highly recommend checking out my Aikido dojo, though. Just go and watch a class or two. Ask questions. Try to figure out how comfortable you would be with the people and with the activities there.
Even if you decide not to do it, you'll be more informed about something that you find interesting.
Let me know if you want to know more about aikido in Utah Valley.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Mr. Head - fascinating. I was under the impression "Jujitsu" was a martial arts school unto itself with an assortment of variants under the primary heading.
"Small Circle Jujitsu" would be an example of another variant of the Jujitsu family as developed by Wally Jay.
-Trevor
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I'm familiar with Small Circle Jujitsu. That's the type of art I think of when most people say jujitsu.
Many other people are referring to Brazilian Jujitsu when they say jujitsu. This is mainly a grappling art that comes from the Gracie family in Brazil. Interestingly enough, this form of jujitsu comes from Judo.
But just be aware that Jujitsu can mean pretty much any Japanese martial art that is not weapons-based.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Again, interesting. I thought "small circle" jujitsu and Brazilian jujitsu were both specialist derivations of a more generic school of thought.
The Brazilian school of thought was developed as part of the "Ultimate Warrior" championship nonsense as a more aggressive form sport competition.
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