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Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :

When Card decided to call the Formics "Buggers," do you think he took into consideration the British connotation of the word? [Razz]

Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :

I think this has already been discussed on the other side of the forum in the past. I'm trying to remember the general consensus of thought there. Let me see if I can find the link...

FG

edit: and I still don't know what the British connotation is..

[ July 08, 2004, 12:33 PM: Message edited by: Farmgirl ]

Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :

FG,

get a book of Limericks. It should become clear.

Annie,

what are you up to, woman?

Posted by Erik Slaine (Member # 5583) on :

His original idea must have been "Bum's" But he mustn't have felt that the term was strong enough. [Dont Know]

Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :

Here is the link
http://www.hatrack.com/ubb/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=002208#000010

FG

no -- that's not the right link! <SIGH>

[ July 08, 2004, 12:36 PM: Message edited by: Farmgirl ]

Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :

Heh - I thought I was being funny and parodying the other side. Looks like I'm just old news. [Razz]

Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :

I'm going to lunch... <sigh>

FG

Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :

Have a nice lunch [Smile]

And pay no attention to the Annie behind the curtain.

Posted by Jaiden (Member # 2099) on :

Bugger means someone who engages in buggery...

"'bugger' derives from Bulgaria and the Bogomils. These were originally a heretic Christian sect who were stigmatised as sodomites. Section twelve of the UK 1956 sexual offences act refers to buggery. According to this, buggery is sexual intercourse between males or between male and female in an 'unnatural manner', or between male or female with an animal in any manner whatsoever." (taken from BBC's website)

Basically, it's for sure not a term of enderment towards children [Smile]

Or at least it wasn't when I was in England. Maybe they've "americanized".

I hope this is an acceptable thing to post... the way I had it "worded" in my head for sure wasn't, so I did a quick search. Please tell me if I should edit it down more or take it out completely [Smile]

[ July 08, 2004, 12:52 PM: Message edited by: Jaiden ]