In an age where almost any bad news or bad situtation can be spun into a "non-issue" or twisted into "blamelessness", Iraq is a curse of a disease of an albatross for Americans.
This is the fruit of George W. Bush's vision.
His response to september, 11th when a group of ambitious sandpeople commited mass american murder, was to invade Iraq, a country that none of the terrorists were from, a country that had never attacked America, or really displayed the power to do so.
In a slick sticky oily irony, we have never taken any action against Saudi Arabia, a country that grew a majority of the terrorists, and is also a non-democracy.
So George, Dick, Donald and Condie have left us with our own personal middle east mission impossible.
God help us all.
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Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
(((T)))
(missed you)
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Back in May Bush declared the war over. Ironically, soldiers are still dying each week. It seems Iraq is more chaotic than ever... No one can convince me that Bush isn't incompetent as a president...
Posted by Alexa (Member # 6285) on :
quote: His response to september, 11th when a group of ambitious sandpeople commited mass american murder, was to invade Iraq, a country that none of the terrorists were from, a country that had never attacked America, or really displayed the power to do so.
I thought his response was to attack Afghanistan--I could be remembering wrong tho. The justification to invade Iraq has not been determined by any superiority of logic to not have been justified.
I agree it could have been very unwise; we will have to wait to see how the Iraqi people choose to manage themselves to see the wisdom (or lack thereof) of our actions.
I will be very curious to see the results of the Bush doctrine in both American foreign policy and unfriendly nations responses to our policy.
I think we just didn't want Saddam to have that kind of power (oil) when he had such Anti-American views, an aggressive history, and was in a position to offer support to our enemies.
Libya turns in weapons, North Korea threatens Nuclear war. The ramifications of the Iraq war has not been fully felt yet, and History has not determined whether it was right or wrong.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:Back in May Bush declared the war over.
No, he didn't. PLEASE get your facts straight.
Dagonee
Posted by Jerryst316 (Member # 5054) on :
quote: No, he didn't. PLEASE get your facts straight.
Then why did he waste tax payer money to go to an aircraft carrier? Oh wait, its Bush. Now I know. Mission Accomplished.
[ April 10, 2004, 09:28 PM: Message edited by: Jerryst316 ]
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
He actually declared that combat was over, but the war was not, as I recall.
In any case, more soldiers have died SINCE that declaration than during "official" combat.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
He declared that major combat was over. And he was right.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Was he? It seems to be pretty combative over there these days.
[ April 10, 2004, 10:02 PM: Message edited by: Elizabeth ]
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Combatic seems like an understatement... Chaotic seems more appropiate.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Considering we have lost one major city to Shiite extremists and another is on the verge of a similar problem, I rather think it has just begun, at least the combat that will kill our troops, which is the sort I'm concerned about.
We knew we could oust Saddam Hussein. Getting the people to support us instead of trying to kill us has always been the riskiest part, and the part Bush seems intent on botching.
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
quote:So George, Dick, Donald and Condie have left us with our own personal middle east mission impossible.
Considering that the occupation of Iraq is part of the Council on Foreign Relations' agenda, and knowing who really runs this country, I think it would be a mistake to try to lay the blame on a single political party.
If you don't know who runs this country, it's the people whom we pay interest to on the national debt. Compared to the wealth and power that the bankers behind the Federal Reserve have at their disposal, you're petty partisan politics don't amount to a spoon of goose poop.
Thor, again I urge you to discover what your mission is here on Earth and to figure out how to fulfill it within the parameters that you have been given. Don't waste time getting caught up in issues that would divert you from your mission.
Posted by BrianM (Member # 5918) on :
Actually with the civil war in Afghanistan and now the open war in Iraq with several thousand organized rebels, it appears that we are facing more major combat now than actually during the invasion.
[ April 11, 2004, 07:41 AM: Message edited by: BrianM ]
Posted by fallow (Member # 6268) on :
Any NCAA fans around?
fallow
Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
Well, the important thing is we found the weapons of mass destruction.