Tell Internet explorer to NEVER dial up. Then it forced itself to look at the darn network connections. It grudgingly connected.
So then, I turned off SSID Broadcast.
Still Connected.
Then I turned MAC addressing back on...
Still Connected.
Yippee!!!
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
And now I'm on the web from my bedroom!
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
YEAY!
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
And it frequin' works from my ding dang den!!!
I can hook into HATRACK and play it on my giant projection screen!!!
Okay, I haven't done that yet, but it'll work.
Hatrack 5 ft x 9 ft!!!
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Yeah Mack, I used MAC addressing!
Did you feel it?
I'm a posting fool!!!!
Posted by BYuCnslr (Member # 1857) on :
Don't forget to use cleartype! Satyagraha
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I'm using MAC addressing, too.
*suspicious*
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:And now I'm on the web from my bedroom!
See, I know there's a joke in there somewhere...
Posted by Happy Camper (Member # 5076) on :
Ain't wireless networking great?
*edit* - when it works at least.
[ March 31, 2004, 09:45 PM: Message edited by: Happy Camper ]
Posted by Don Driscoll (Member # 4488) on :
Wireless on my Mac:
1) Buy Wireless Router. 2) Attach cables to router and turn on. 3) Tell Mac "Turn Airport On." 4) Surf web.
-Don
P.S. Someone totally freaked me out about having wireless. He said that there are sickos who drive around with a laptop (and usually without pants) trying to catch an untraceable wireless connection to download kiddie porn. The Feds then trace it to your connection and make a house call of their own - very unlikely, but very scary!
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
If I set up my wireless network out of the box it would have been as easy as you described. Instead I took the time to do it right and now don't have to worry about drive-by web surfers.
Dagonee
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Ah yes, the extra step. Double click on the airport setup assistant application. Select base station. Click the button to turn on encryption. Enter a password. Click to alter the settings. Done. .
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Yep, that's about what I had to do, too.
Posted by slacker (Member # 2559) on :
See, things like WiFi make me wish I still lived in an apartment complex here (another guy lives there and said that there's at least 5 connections that he can get on that aren't secured). I love it when people just take it out of the box and start using it!
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
I'm not encrypting. Nor do I have WEP turned on.
But with MAC, at least no-one can get into my network unless their physical device's addresses matches one of mine.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
I hope Posted by Nato (Member # 1448) on :
I know a church that has an unprotected wireless network running. I have a friend who lives across the street and sometimes accidentally connects to it instead of her own wireless network.
Let's hope no scary men download kiddie porn from there.
Posted by Zevlag (Member # 1405) on :
I love WiFi. Been using it for years. So nice.
Heh Bob, I can spoof my MAC address and pretend to be you, it's easy.
I have the closest thing you can get to a secure wireless network.
I have 3 AP's, 2 for my private net, 1 for my public. Private net uses MAC filtering and 128bit WEP. Then to access anything besides my internet gateway you either have to establish a PPPoE session or a PPTP VPN connection. Which authenticates against my radius server.
My public AP is a plug in out of the box config, no wep, ESSID broadcasting, DHCP server. It is connected to seperate interface on my firewall and only allows internet access. At a throttled speed, and easily monitored by me.
[ April 01, 2004, 12:29 AM: Message edited by: Zevlag ]
Posted by slacker (Member # 2559) on :
That's ok Zev, I can crack your WEP keys without too much work (even if I can't get on the net, I can look around at your machines if you haven't protected them).
I'm surprised that you're not running WAP (if your AP supports it I mean).
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
So Bob... does it work from your bathroom, then too?
*Bob sitting on porcelain throne, typing mushy e-mail to dkw on his laptop -- now THAT's togetherness!*
Posted by John L (Member # 6005) on :
Slacker and Zev, I'd give each of you a hundred dollars if you could actually break into a wifi network I set up just using WEP (encryption, not counting the other countermeasures). Airsnort is all well and good, but nowhere near perfect, and it sometimes takes days, weeks, or months to get enough packets to actually crack a 128-bit key.
Come on, guys, I do this sort of thing for work along with play. It can be done, but mostly in theory. With practical application, you run the risk of getting caught long before you ever get a working key.
[ April 01, 2004, 09:43 AM: Message edited by: John L ]
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
I love our Powerbook and Airport.
It's a DUN connection, but still SOOOO nice not to have to fool around with wires. So much freedom. . . I feel like a Unitarian Universalist.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
MAC spoofing can be automated in a rapid way (sniff the traffic, pick a MAC, use it), while WEP breaking always takes time (not a huge amount, but if you're on a residential street, you'd probably start to wonder about the guy sitting out there in his car). One can be done on a drive-by, the other can't. And even if combined, they're still not completely secure. Always use secure wire protocols (that doesn't mean actually using a wire, it means using encrypted things like sftp and ssh and ssl when sending passwords).
Of course, if one monitors which MACs are connected one can become aware of any break ins.
In an apartment building where anyone can crack in my preferred policy is to have an open access point anyways, with bandwidth limiting for any computer but mine. I'm not using all that bandwidth most of the time, and so long as I get what I need I'm perfectly comfortable with letting someone else use it. If something they do gets traced back to my IP, I'd both state this -- and show the police my (daily overwritten for "space" reasons) log of accesses.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
I haven't tried using it in the bathroom. I'd be too afraid of hackers.
Posted by John L (Member # 6005) on :
www.airdefense.net Those guys offer a realistic realtime wireless monitoring solution. Too bad it's too expensive for the consumer. I've been trying to shmooze every now and then to get more info from them (they're cool guys... gave me a free AP). Even they maintain that while there is no absolute security, proper measures can make a wifi network not worth the trouble. That's the trick with any network: it's not about making it completely secure (no such thing), it's about making the cost and risk factor out of the potential hijacker's boundaries.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Yes, unless you have something unique a hacker wants, most such people will ignore even a lightly protected network because there are so many open networks out there.
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