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Posted by Amka (Member # 690) on :
 
http://www.alias.com/eng/etc/fakeorfoto/quiz.html
 
Posted by Amka (Member # 690) on :
 
BTW, I got seven out of ten.

Trust your initial instincts. These guys aren't any better than you think they are.
 
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
 
I got 8/10. I messed up on the Chess and the pile of nails.
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
I also got seven out of ten.
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
6 our of 10

I got the nails and hammer picture wrong.
 
Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
 
7 out of 10. But they all looked real to me. I just flipped a mental coin.
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
Nine out of ten!
 
Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :
 
8 of 10. I switched the two nails pictures.
 
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
8/10, I got the golf ball and the glasses of water pictures wrong.

-Bok
 
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
 
8 of 10 for me.
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
I got 7 out of 10, but I didn't check to see which ones. I figure it's a crap shoot, except I thought the nose and lips were anatomically weird.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Woo-hoo. Ten out of ten. [Smile]

But I kind of expected that, since I'm the guy in the audience of any movie who, when a CGI effect shows up, groans loudly and says something like, "Ooo! Look at the pretty mipmaps!"
 
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
 
8/10

I marked the glasses and the second picture of the nails as real.
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
Is the joke that they were all CGI? Oh, half were real. Well now I'm really impressed that I got more than half right.

So Tom, do you go to Pixar movies? Is it okay if you know it's supposed to be CGI?

[ March 09, 2004, 01:08 PM: Message edited by: pooka ]
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
7 of 10, didn't check which ones I got wrong. Pretty sure I said the lips and nose were real.

Dagonee
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
I got 100% on the regular test, and another 100% on the bonus test at the end.
 
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
 
8 out of 10. I got the golf ball in the grass and the pile of nails ones wrong.
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
9 of 10!

Wooohooo!
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
"Is it okay if you know it's supposed to be CGI?"

Yep. [Smile] I don't mind unreality if it's INTENTIONAL unreality; it's when an effect struggles to look realistic but fails that I notice and care.
 
Posted by gwan (Member # 6194) on :
 
6/10 but I've always sucked at this sort of thing.
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
Six out of ten as well....

I almost just marked them ALL cgi just to see how I would score, but decided against it.

Farmgirl
 
Posted by gwan (Member # 6194) on :
 
They say,"pretty good" but have you noticed that 6 is the lowes, anyone has admitted to having? I think they are just flattering us.
 
Posted by Vána (Member # 3262) on :
 
I got 8/10. I was wrong on the glass of wine and the pile of nails.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
So you were a big fan of the Hulk movie that came out recently then, Tom? [Smile]
 
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I got 8/10 on my first try, I got 3/4 for the bonus.
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
I think it's just easy; it is possible to fail. My second try I got 0/10 (first was 7/10)

But it's not even critical when I failed completed.

quote:
The CG artists really did a good job!

 
Posted by Coccinelle (Member # 5832) on :
 
i failed...2/10...those CG guys are good.
 
Posted by xnera (Member # 187) on :
 
8/10 on first round, 3/4 on bonus. Though I'm confused on the bonus, because I was sure I had marked the pictures correctly. [Confused]

I've spent some time in amature CGI circles, so I knew what to look for on the fakes.
 
Posted by HRE (Member # 6263) on :
 
I got 9/10.

Would you mind enlightening us as to what you look for, xnera?

Here is what tipped me off for each:

The grass - the uniformity of color, but it was mostly the water droplets...too silvery, not really clear or cristalline like they should be

The silverware - The angle of the spoon isn't right compared to the fork...it looks like the table is straight under the fork, but at a 3-7 degree incline under the spoon. Also, the reflections were a big give-away.

The glasses - I don't think you can acheive those perfect lighting effects in real life, especially the totally black background. The only way I could see a possibility is a black room with a blue spotlight, but then there would be no white vertical band on the glasses.

The face - Faces are usually the hardest to digitall create. This one simply doesn't look real. The best face I have ever seen is here.

The nails - all uniform, no nicks or scratches, and the weird starburst on the tops of the nails.
 
Posted by xnera (Member # 187) on :
 
The biggest tipoff is too much glare/gloss on the surface of an item. CGI'd items tend to look too shiny compared to their real-life counterparts. This was the tipoff on the spoon/fork, and on the pills in the bonus round.

Next I look at the texture. Does the texture look real? On these samples, the texture of the face is way too smooth. Plus I thought the line between the foreground and background looked a bit odd. And as already noted, the water droplets on the grass doesn't look right. Actually, my original time through I didn't look at the big images for any, and I had guessed correctly on the grass due to its color.

Is there a natural variation in the objects? On the chairs in the bonus round, I noticed the scratches/dust on the one in the lower-right corner, and decided it had to be real. Compare that to the grass, which really doesn't have much variation. You'd expect that some blades would be broken, or a slightly different green, or have some holes in them.

Do the pieces fit together correctly? I was bothered by the liquid in the shot glass in the bonus round. It simply didn't look right near the top of the glass. I was nearly fooled by the dice, because to me some of the pips looked like stickers (you can definitely see how one of the pips is *above* the surface, rather than on it)rather than paint. I finally decided that it could be a layer of paint, so I checked it as real.

Usually, though, it's the shinyness that gives it away.
 
Posted by ssywak (Member # 807) on :
 
Nine out of Ten!

I screwed up (yuk yuk) on the "Field of nails."

And Tom, I'm the guy whose wife and kids are saying, "for the hundredth time, Steve, will you just shut up and let us watch the movie!"

Although I think I've brought the kids over to the dark side with me.
 
Posted by raventh1 (Member # 3750) on :
 
Excellent! Nine out of ten answers were correct

I'm always looking at the lighting. Anything that has a slightly different lighting angle than anything else mixed with how I know we can't do radiosity without a HUGE hit and lots of time consumption. Couple that with settled dust, and serveral other real hard things to do and you can almost always tell, I missed the glasses, *I didn't look to closely at that one either.*
 


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