Turns out some shows aren't allowed to get closed captioning because apparently they're risque or something. So they're protecting the deaf from the heinous antics of Digimon. linkage
I had no idea that NBC College Football was so bawdy. Or Scooby Doo. OR the Simpsons.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
So the deaf are protected...why must I suffer?
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
This is the list of programs not designated "educational" enough to warrant taxpayer support of closed captioning. A program with scarce resources must allocate them according to the function of the program providing the funding.
Frankly, I'd prefer to see producers of TV shows to be required to pay for the close captioning of their programs. They made AOL make its software accesible to readers for the blind. Movie theaters have to provide captioning devices (at least where I come from - don't know if its nationally required). Why not television programs?
Dagonee
Posted by Amka (Member # 690) on :
I haven't seen a show yet that wasn't captioned, though I only use captions when my sister is here or Ozzy Osbourne is on TV. That is just government subsidy of the captioning.
Posted by Book (Member # 5500) on :
Hmm. Well, I got that from Neil Gaiman's journal.... So, uh, blame him for my gross incompetence, I guess.
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Ozzy requires captioning for even those with the best of hearing.
[ March 02, 2004, 04:34 PM: Message edited by: Dan_raven ]
Posted by jack (Member # 2083) on :
I've noticed several shows that aren't closed captioned. Not ones that are first-run shows now, but older shows. I recently noticed that 7 Days isn't closed captioned. I don't know if this is because it is on SpikeTV or because it's old and didn't have the necessary 5-year run for syndication, or what.
I hate watching shows that aren't closed captioned. Unless it's live closed captioning, then it just sucks. Going deaf though, I love closed captioning for regular TV shows.
I find the AT&T commercial interesting. The closed captions do not say what the voice is saying. It is like a completely separate ad for the deaf about a product that allows them to talk to people who don't have the teletype phone thingy.
Posted by Stan the man (Member # 6249) on :
hmmm, I dun no. Most of the sports shows I see at one of the local resturaunts in Norfolk have captions. I can't remember seeing a show w/o. Not all the tv's are setup for it over there, but enough of them are. I often watch the ones with because its always pretty loud inside.
Posted by Slash the Berzerker (Member # 556) on :
You're deaf, Jack?
I spent a lot of time with a deaf couple when I was a kid. Their son was a good friend of mine, and I learned quite a bit of signing from them. I got to go to disneyland on the special deaf day. That was cool, it was so quiet!
My mom learned signing from them and went on to be a signer at our local junior high for a deaf student.
In some ways, it really is a totally separate culture living inside of the US.
Posted by Amka (Member # 690) on :
Actually, you are right. I do recall old shows not having captions.
I think that is cool about the AT&T commercials. My sister has a pager that basically works like a cell phone for her, but in text.
Posted by jack (Member # 2083) on :
Slash, I'm not deaf yet, but getting there. Don't worry, someday you'll be deaf, too. If you live long enough. I just find it difficult to understand half of what they are saying on TV, so I use the captioning. I got tired of always saying, "What'd he just say?" However, from what I know of it, you are right, it is like a whole separate culture. (Oh, and I thought you said your mother was learning to sing from them. I was quite surprised by that!)
Stan, I'm kind of surprised. I thought they couldn't do that without paying some sort of royalty to the show. Most bars I've been in have always said they couldn't have the captioning on because of copy-right infringement.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
In college, I ran the sound for a play put on by the American Sign Language (ASL) society. My friend did the lights, and the play performed a couple of times on campus and at BYU.
I was the only one who didn't sign.
That was fascinating. I'd never been in a situation where I was completely left out of every conversation. The three-year old daughter of the advisors could talk! I know it was just a small period of time, but I think I got a taste of what being deaf in a hearing society would be like.
Posted by Risuena (Member # 2924) on :
Isn't there a poster who attends Gallaudet in DC? I always assumed she was deaf, although I realize that not everyone at Gallaudet is.
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
quote: So they're protecting the deaf from the heinous antics of Digimon.
actually in japan digimon has nudity in it, as well as depictions of urinating monsters.
Posted by ravenclaw (Member # 4377) on :
I go to Gallaudet, but I'm hard of hearing not deaf. I can hear well enough to talk on the phone but I always prefer to watch TV with captions on. There are plenty of people on campus upset about the captions. Many programs will still be required to have captions, they will just have to pay for it themselves. Here's another link from the NAD website
One thing I am happy about is that many movie theaters in the DC area may soon have captions, right now I only know of 2 or 3 that do and usually they are movies that came out a few weeks ago. It's frustrating to wait a few weeks before any of my friends will go see a new movie with me!
[ March 03, 2004, 06:21 PM: Message edited by: ravenclaw ]
Posted by Kasie H (Member # 2120) on :
I just have a question about this.....
I was volunteering at a rally for Howard Dean earlier this year, and we were trying to help move a number of deaf people to a place where they could see the woman who was signing. One time I was trying to explain what I was doing and I said, "We're trying to move all the hearing-impaired up to the front." A hearing woman with the group actually *hit* me and told me to use the word "deaf."
I was pretty angry that she would hit me while I was trying to help her, but I also don't understand why "hearing impaired" is considered offensive and I felt bad to have upset anyone. I honestly never meant to insult anyone....any Hatrackers know why "deaf" is the correct term?
[ March 03, 2004, 07:41 PM: Message edited by: Kasie H ]
Posted by Slash the Berzerker (Member # 556) on :
That woman was an asshole, to be blunt.
I actually worry a lot about being around such people. With my temper, if you hit me? It's on.
Posted by ravenclaw (Member # 4377) on :
She definitely should not have hit you. I personally am not offended by the term hearing impaired, but many people are. Maybe I'm being unfair, but from my experience it seems that Deaf people are offended easily!
quote: Indeed, the deaf and hard of hearing community views "hearing-impaired" as negative, because the label focuses on what they can't do. With this label, a standard has been set: the "hearing" standard. To be anything other than "hearing" is not acceptable to the mainstream society, and deaf and hard of hearing people have failed to meet the "standard".
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