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Posted by Trogdor the Burninator (Member # 4894) on :
 
http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/29/news/companies/pixar_disney/index.htm

oh, and....

http://www.savedisney.com/

I think Roy might be on to something here. If there isn't some change quick, it could really hurt the Disney empire.

Icarus?
 
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
 
Damn you, Trogdor! I was just about to post that!

*ARROWS Trogdor*
 
Posted by Trogdor the Burninator (Member # 4894) on :
 
**Nelson laughs**
 
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
 
Quiet, you. Dead dragons don't talk.
 
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
who the heck is Nelson?

*gets ye flask*
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Thanks God! Now I can watch Pixar films without feeling like I need to take a shower...
 
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
 
No, they can't do anything right. Thank you Michael Eisner. As a shareholder, I'm seriously thinking about voting to oust that turkey.
 
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
 
*shrug*

The Pixar thing's been coming for a while now. The Roy Disney thing has been the talk of the town for a month or so around here.

Is Eisner botching things up lately? It sure looks it. A bigger example than this, to me, would be the Katzenberger thing, since, with Dreamworks, he's produced one great movie after another since leaving Disney.

On the other hand, Roy Disney was part of the ship of fools (along with Card Walker, if memory serves) that mismanaged Disney to the point where the movie studio was virtually inactive for a decade (only producing such hits as The Black Hole and The Black Cauldron) and hostile takeover attempts loomed large on the horizon. Eisner did succeed in pulling them out of that and making them the giant they were a couple of years ago or so.

His biggest sins may have been overextending the company (largely an eye of the beholder thing, because the cruise line made their stocks tumble, but has been unbelievably successful as far as customers and actual profits go) and having the sort of huge ego that made him take credit for everything and alienate the other talent that he had around.

Maybe it's like Al Davis said, with regard to coaches: maybe even a successful CEO should only be with a company for so long before it's time for fresh blood. Frankly, neither Roy Disney (who always struck me as the useless nephew who got an administrative job due to his name) nor Eisner seems like a particularly good option right now. Whoever wins, or better yet, whoever else they get, I just hope Disney continues (or returns to) doing the things that made them so special to me.

Can Disney do anything right these days? Well, there's Pirates of the Carribean, the Pixar deal so far, Holes, a great year at the parks, attendance-wise, and Mission: Space.

(Oh, and I happen to like where I live, but I might be biased on that one. [Smile] )

[ January 29, 2004, 09:00 PM: Message edited by: lcarus ]
 
Posted by Suneun (Member # 3247) on :
 
Pixar really needed to get out of that contract. The numbers are ridiculous for their current contract with Disney.
 
Posted by Janger (Member # 4719) on :
 
Did anybody notice how all pixar movies revolve around their characters getting home?
 
Posted by Janger (Member # 4719) on :
 
At least they purchased studio Ghibli
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
Where'd you get that from? Disney doesn't own Ghibli. They are just allowed to release some of their movies in the US.
 
Posted by Janger (Member # 4719) on :
 
They own all their movies but aren't allowed to edit anything out. Basically the same thing.
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
They don't own the movies, only the right to distribute them in America.
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
In answer to the original question: NO! Not since they froze Walt. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
 
How is Mission: Space, Ic? I've been alternately annoyed/intrigued by it ever since I went to Disney, walked down the path to get to Horizons, and found it closed. One of my absolute favorite rides. At least I have the illegal videos my dad made of that, World of Motion, and Journey into Imagination. You know, I honestly still can't believe that he was never caught doing that. It was a freakin huge video camera, too! *shakes head in disbelief*

Anyhow, spill the beans, Joe!
 
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
 
I can't believe Pixar is leaving Disney. That's like Homer losing weight or the computer losing its keyboard. You know it's possible, but you can never imagine it actually happening.
 
Posted by Xaposert (Member # 1612) on :
 
quote:
They don't own the movies, only the right to distribute them in America.
Actually, I believe they only have the right to distribute CERTAIN Ghibli films.
 


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